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Post by Facetious on Feb 25, 2021 14:41:22 GMT -5
He had a great run with the E, it just ended prematurely due to injury before we could get that Taker-Sting match. But almost all of his appearances were treated as huge deals in his short time there. I wouldn't call it great, yes they made it sound like a big deal but having him lose his first match shouldn't have happened. I know I'm in the minority, but I don't mind him losing. The issue I had with the match was the it was built to be Sting vs the Authority, then Vince had to Vince and it became WCW/nWo vs WWE/DX. Shit was so stupid.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Feb 25, 2021 14:44:27 GMT -5
Who would have thought pro wrestling could be entertaining instead of a slog? I said it in another thread yesterday, but I think it applies to fans, too, at least with regards to mainstream US wrestling: so many years of "Oh God, don't do (whatever), that's what killed WCW/ECW!", or "Oh God, WWE is doing the same stuff AGAIN", or "Oh God, TNA is going to screw this up", etc., has a lot of people seemingly gun shy about just enjoying a show that, so far, is basically just well-done. AEW certainly isn't flawless, and if a person's a bigger fan of different styles of wrestling they shouldn't feel obligated to watch it religiously or anything, but mainstream US wrestling fans just seem to have a lot of hangups and bad memories that can be tough to file away, hence stuff like people seeing Paul Wight going to AEW as a sign that "they're doing what TNA did with ex-WWE guys!" or some other overreaction. Like I said in the Wight thread yesterday; a LOT of people who decided AEW was just gonna be PWG with a National TV deal are irrationally heated these days. Speaking strictly as a fan from before day 1 of this operation? I couldn’t BE more thrilled...let alone engaged. I’ve spent more time (and money between t-shirts for me and Mini Asylum, and tickets on the episode of Dynamite we went to) invested in AEW in a year and change than I’d spent on WWE in more than a decade. Not making this an “us vs them” thing but AEW...from its presentation, it’s workers, it’s energy, it’s booking, it’s everything...flaws and all...has me - jaded 40 something who has watched this product for more than 30 years - completely reinvigorated and with a new love for the business. I can only imagine the effect it’s had on the people who do it for a living who felt like they had limited options to do something they love for something more than a paycheck
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 25, 2021 15:10:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it great, yes they made it sound like a big deal but having him lose his first match shouldn't have happened. I know I'm in the minority, but I don't mind him losing. The issue I had with the match was the it was built to be Sting vs the Authority, then Vince had to Vince and it became WCW/nWo vs WWE/DX. Shit was so stupid. Yeah that part didn’t make sense canonically, but it was highly entertaining, at least to me. I popped big-time for the nWo and DX.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 25, 2021 15:44:12 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority, but I don't mind him losing. The issue I had with the match was the it was built to be Sting vs the Authority, then Vince had to Vince and it became WCW/nWo vs WWE/DX. Shit was so stupid. Yeah that part didn’t make sense canonically, but it was highly entertaining, at least to me. I popped big-time for the nWo and DX. It only made sense if you paid any attention to Sting and Hogan making peace in TNA...therefore no one did.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 25, 2021 15:44:15 GMT -5
I don't think Sting's ever seemed like he's not having fun, outside of his final WCW days and the Jeff Hardy incident in TNA. You can't accuse him of phoning it in.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 25, 2021 16:02:23 GMT -5
I don't think Sting's ever seemed like he's not having fun, outside of his final WCW days and the Jeff Hardy incident in TNA. You can't accuse him of phoning it in. Even in his WWE run, he seemed like he was enjoying himself at times.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 25, 2021 16:12:17 GMT -5
Yeah that part didn’t make sense canonically, but it was highly entertaining, at least to me. I popped big-time for the nWo and DX. It only made sense if you paid any attention to Sting and Hogan making peace in TNA...therefore no one did. When I saw that match was turning into WWF vs. WCW, I said "These run-ins will only make sense if they culminate in Flair low-blowing Triple H so Sting can win". Then Ric didn't appear and I figured he just wasn't there for the show. ...Then Ric showed up in a backstage promo, I think the one where the legends celebrated Bryan's win. To this day I don't get why people enjoyed that WM so much.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 25, 2021 16:16:26 GMT -5
It only made sense if you paid any attention to Sting and Hogan making peace in TNA...therefore no one did. When I saw that match was turning into WWF vs. WCW, I said "These run-ins will only make sense if they culminate in Flair low-blowing Triple H so Sting can win". Then Ric didn't appear and I figured he just wasn't there for the show. ...Then Ric showed up in a backstage promo, I think the one where the legends celebrated Bryan's win. To this day I don't get why people enjoyed that WM so much. Really, that Mania’s only highlights were the ladder match, Randy Orton’s Amazing RKO, and Seth cashing in.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 25, 2021 16:17:43 GMT -5
It only made sense if you paid any attention to Sting and Hogan making peace in TNA...therefore no one did. When I saw that match was turning into WWF vs. WCW, I said "These run-ins will only make sense if they culminate in Flair low-blowing Triple H so Sting can win". Then Ric didn't appear and I figured he just wasn't there for the show. ...Then Ric showed up in a backstage promo, I think the one where the legends celebrated Bryan's win. To this day I don't get why people enjoyed that WM so much. That was a great modern Mania. Ladder match was fantastic, the Orton-Seth match was very good with a crazy and memorable finish, Sting-HHH was a great nostalgia/plunder match, and the main event was amazing with a shocking finish. And it’s not like those 4 matches comprised 1/4 of the show like they would have at 35. It was only a 7-match card. The other 3 consisted of a short and decent Divas tag, a Taker-Wyatt match where Taker looked suprisingly good and a solid Cena-Rusev match.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 25, 2021 16:34:17 GMT -5
It only made sense if you paid any attention to Sting and Hogan making peace in TNA...therefore no one did. When I saw that match was turning into WWF vs. WCW, I said "These run-ins will only make sense if they culminate in Flair low-blowing Triple H so Sting can win". Then Ric didn't appear and I figured he just wasn't there for the show. ...Then Ric showed up in a backstage promo, I think the one where the legends celebrated Bryan's win. To this day I don't get why people enjoyed that WM so much. I was driving home from Orlando and had the PPV on as background noise. I turned that shit off quick after HHH won and they had the handshake because I knew the Authority wasn’t gonna die. Then the Rock and Ronda angle with the Authority signaled that crap was lasting to next Mania...I tapped out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 10:50:56 GMT -5
I can't imagine why he'd be enjoying this run more than that absolutely wonderful, not at all bad time in WWE. He had a great run with the E, it just ended prematurely due to injury before we could get that Taker-Sting match. But almost all of his appearances were treated as huge deals in his short time there. Gotta disagree with this. That Triple H match alone tarnished the entire thing.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 26, 2021 11:07:53 GMT -5
He had a great run with the E, it just ended prematurely due to injury before we could get that Taker-Sting match. But almost all of his appearances were treated as huge deals in his short time there. Gotta disagree with this. That Triple H match alone tarnished the entire thing. The match was good and entertaining (although a little bit odd given the buildup). And Sting thought it was his retirement match, which is why he wanted Triple H to win (and you know Hunter’s not turning the W down). I enjoyed it.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 26, 2021 14:11:17 GMT -5
I don't think Sting's ever seemed like he's not having fun, outside of his final WCW days and the Jeff Hardy incident in TNA. You can't accuse him of phoning it in. As far as old timers still hanging around, Sting's a guy who seems like he has an actual passion instead of insane financial troubles or work addiction issues. He's there to have fun and he's put his passion in outside of some pretty major f***-ups and dour times. Once he got himself cleaned up, he really threw himself into his work and treated it like something he does because he loves it. Seeing him invigorated in this progream has been a blast, and I don't feel like he's an old fart here for an easy paycheck or anything when he's on Dynamite.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 26, 2021 18:33:39 GMT -5
I'm enjoying the pairing more than I thought I would. As a fan since the 90s, I was hesitant at first as I'm too used to the veteran main eventer and rising star pairing coming off as 'important guy and his lil' buddy' with the rising star basically there to give some additional shine to a guy who didn't really need it at their expense.. See Hulk Hogan with most people he 'helped'.
Still think Darby needs to cut out the stupid stunts though, 5 years more of this and he'll regret every stupid fall because it's shaved a decade off his career or he's gotten a career ending injury doing something utterly unnecessary.
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Post by warden on Feb 26, 2021 20:49:13 GMT -5
If i were him I too would be having fun. Promotions paying me millions of dollars to do the bare minimum of dressing up and putting on face paint. And maybe occasionally tossing my worn out body for a few minutes. With all that dough I'd buy a new body.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 21:27:01 GMT -5
Gotta disagree with this. That Triple H match alone tarnished the entire thing. The match was good and entertaining (although a little bit odd given the buildup). And Sting thought it was his retirement match, which is why he wanted Triple H to win (and you know Hunter’s not turning the W down). I enjoyed it. This is obviously subjective, but put me in the camp of really despising that match. Triple H is one of my favorites ever and I think that, at times, the criticism he gets is unwarranted, but that whole match just smacked of his ego not allowing him to let Sting have the big moment after all those years, and it completely ruined the match in my opinion. And the entire thing didn’t make any sense...why would the NWO help Sting? We get it...WWF won the war, why does that have to be shoved down our throats 20 years later at the expense of logical storytelling? In any event, Sting looks rejuvenated and excited to be there for sure. I was skeptical of all of this at first (let’s be honest, Sting and Darby Allin versus Brian Cage and Ricky Starks in a hardcore match on a PPV for a company that didn’t even exists at the time is the kind of thing that we would have made fun of for being an ridiculously unrealistic TEW/EWR game in 2018), but damn if I’m not exited to see the old man beat up some dudes with his bat.
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