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Post by Chiral on Feb 26, 2021 22:11:17 GMT -5
Before I get into this, I am not saying Roman's title run is doomed, or predicting doom for the storyline. Roman's still an engaging character, his matches have all been fantastic, and you can argue that me even reacting like this is a sign his heeling is working and I want to see him get beat.
BUT...
Roman needs to have like...some storyline adversity in this, right? We're entering his third feud as champion (fourth? if you count the brief Fiend/Braun stuff) against Bryan, and it's begun with the Elimination Chamber match, and now Bryan getting a double countout in a #1 contender match against Jey for some reason. And I think I can count on one hand the number of times he's like even just in story lost something. The most is like Owens winning a beatdown once or twice (out of like 16), and Adam Pearce outsmarting him (where Reigns just easily countered his machinations the next week anyway).
How long can this realistically go being this much of a downer? What are some ways they can have this dude lose and still keep the belt if that's the overall plan for the next few months, or like the rest of the year and beyond even.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 26, 2021 22:13:13 GMT -5
On the Smackdown thread, I made the comparison of Roman stomping all over the heroes nearly every week to something similar with Kenny Omega and friends stomping all over Jon Moxley. In the case of the latter, it's kinda fine since it's Kenny's first title defense feud and he kinda needs to look good there. Not sure if the same reason applies for Roman's six-month long title run.
That said, Roman shouldn't honestly be around every week kicking everyone's ass. He kinda works better as the "big boss" who oversees things and only steps in when shit gets serious for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 22:18:41 GMT -5
I'm still enjoying his character work, but the long opening segments are starting to become a chore to get through.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 26, 2021 22:20:33 GMT -5
I'm still enjoying his character work, but the long opening segments are starting to become a chore to get through. I still largely enjoy his heel work, but I'm at the point where I don't need to see him beat up the faces nearly every week.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 26, 2021 22:23:16 GMT -5
As I've said it needs to end SOON... but the person to end it... isn't Edge.
It needs to be someone they can build off of long term... and as much as I like it... Edge isn't that dude.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 26, 2021 22:24:34 GMT -5
Oh without question he is going to be a black cloud hanging over the heroes for a good min
I think they can stand to have him lose the title to Edge (tho I think he shouldn't lose the title until SS) and freak the f*** out to add that layer to his character that always peaks how deranged he is
Have him come out after Mania like PAC did when he lost the CW title all unkempt and not like the cocky Roman we been seeing. Can take the title off Edge at the next PPV and set up Big E
That way you can eliminate some doom and gloom from his smashing everyone over the head
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 26, 2021 22:24:45 GMT -5
I figure there'd be something in this Edge/Bryan v Reigns/Jey Uso tag match at Fastlane idea, but that will only end with Edge pinning Jey Uso, so I'm not sure how effective that would be.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 26, 2021 22:25:56 GMT -5
As I've said it needs to end SOON... but the person to end it... isn't Edge. It needs to be someone they can build off of long term... and as much as I like it... Edge isn't that dude. I want Big E at Summerslam but that is still 6 months away essentially and people might not be able to wait that long Might need a Luger situation where he drops it and wins it back. Cesaro might fit that build considering how hot he has gotten
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 26, 2021 22:30:55 GMT -5
Oh without question he is going to be a black cloud hanging over the heroes for a good min I think they can stand to have him lose the title to Edge (tho I think he shouldn't lose the title until SS) and freak the f*** out to add that layer to his character that always peaks how deranged he is Have him come out after Mania like PAC did when he lost the CW title all unkempt and not like the cocky Roman we been seeing. Can take the title off Edge at the next PPV and set up Big E That way you can eliminate some doom and gloom from his smashing everyone over the head Roman's in a position where a loss to Edge at Mania would not hurt his credibility at all, instead potentially adding more aspects to his character. Like, Edge winning at Mania would be a tremendous feel-good moment for an event known to mostly end with feel-good moments, and definitely cause Roman to go into the deep end and be even more dangerous enough to beat Edge at Backlash or something. Then you give Ro a run until Summerslam (or Clash of Champions) where Big E finally gets his big ending.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 26, 2021 22:32:58 GMT -5
Oh without question he is going to be a black cloud hanging over the heroes for a good min I think they can stand to have him lose the title to Edge (tho I think he shouldn't lose the title until SS) and freak the f*** out to add that layer to his character that always peaks how deranged he is Have him come out after Mania like PAC did when he lost the CW title all unkempt and not like the cocky Roman we been seeing. Can take the title off Edge at the next PPV and set up Big E That way you can eliminate some doom and gloom from his smashing everyone over the head Roman's in a position where a loss to Edge at Mania would not hurt his credibility at all, instead potentially adding more aspects to his character. Like, Edge winning at Mania would be a tremendous feel-good moment for an event known to mostly end with feel-good moments, and definitely cause Roman to go into the deep end and be even more dangerous enough to beat Edge at Backlash or something. Then you give Ro a run until Summerslam (or Clash of Champions) where Big E finally gets his big ending. I've said before i'm of the opinion he should walk in and out of Mania as champ BUT him losing the title at Mania and having a total meltdown will only help his character and add another layer to the deranged maniac he is It would be the "final transformation" into the full Tribal Chief character
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Post by Shark on Feb 26, 2021 23:08:43 GMT -5
Was waiting for a thread like this to pop up since September.
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Post by Matt on Feb 27, 2021 0:51:41 GMT -5
I'm about 90% sure he's going to lose it to Edge at least briefly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 0:58:23 GMT -5
This is a big part of why I think Edge absolutely has to win at Mania. Roman can get the belt back shortly thereafter but in the moment, he needs to face an actual setback for once. By Mania it'll have been eight months of this run with him never really having experienced any meaningful comeuppance whatsoever.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 27, 2021 1:10:38 GMT -5
By the way, I’m glad for “misery booking” becoming a regularly used term to clearly distinguish itself from “fantasy booking”. We needed something for all those times where we’re trying to think of literally the worst things possible.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 27, 2021 3:07:47 GMT -5
The issues always comes back to WWE.
They hit some gold with Reigns so they will drive the same thing into the ground over and over because hey,people liked it at the start so clearly they will like it forever
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 27, 2021 3:12:37 GMT -5
This is a big part of why I think Edge absolutely has to win at Mania. Roman can get the belt back shortly thereafter but in the moment, he needs to face an actual setback for once. By Mania it'll have been eight months of this run with him never really having experienced any meaningful comeuppance whatsoever. Yeah, I think it's the way to go. I anticipate it won't be a lasting victory, but it will help keep him from becoming stale.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Feb 27, 2021 3:56:06 GMT -5
I think Edge will win at WM mainly because it’s the first show with some capacity of fans in over a year, and I can see WWE wanting to give them a feel good moment as a “reward”.
I don’t think Edge will hold the belt for long (a month or two) before dropping it back to Roman, but I’m not totally against it so long as it adds another layer to the Tribal Chief character.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 27, 2021 11:25:19 GMT -5
As I've said it needs to end SOON... but the person to end it... isn't Edge. It needs to be someone they can build off of long term... and as much as I like it... Edge isn't that dude. I want Big E at Summerslam but that is still 6 months away essentially and people might not be able to wait that long Might need a Luger situation where he drops it and wins it back. Cesaro might fit that build considering how hot he has gotten Yeah I’ve been hoping for the Luger situation with Edge winning for a short time before the face you really want to push (the Sting in this analogy) finally topples Roman. That could be Big E, Keith Lee, Cesaro, Aleister Black, someone not established yet as a main eventer.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 27, 2021 11:29:16 GMT -5
I want Big E at Summerslam but that is still 6 months away essentially and people might not be able to wait that long Might need a Luger situation where he drops it and wins it back. Cesaro might fit that build considering how hot he has gotten Yeah I’ve been hoping for the Luger situation with Edge winning for a short time before the face you really want to push (the Sting in this analogy) finally topples Roman. That could be Big E, Keith Lee, Cesaro, Aleister Black, someone not established yet as a main eventer. Looks like they setting up Cesaro vs Seth for either Fastlane or Mania, probably both if you include Daniel Bryan into the mix after he is done with Roman If Cesaro beats Seth, I think you set up a chance of him playing that Luger role
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 27, 2021 11:41:42 GMT -5
Yeah I’ve been hoping for the Luger situation with Edge winning for a short time before the face you really want to push (the Sting in this analogy) finally topples Roman. That could be Big E, Keith Lee, Cesaro, Aleister Black, someone not established yet as a main eventer. Looks like they setting up Cesaro vs Seth for either Fastlane or Mania, probably both if you include Daniel Bryan into the mix after he is done with Roman If Cesaro beats Seth, I think you set up a chance of him playing that Luger role They’ll want to ride the wave with Cesaro and that could be done if he beats big bad Roman.
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