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Post by Celgress on Mar 12, 2021 15:03:14 GMT -5
Isaacs was Brams partner in NWA. Is this a big match though? I can almost 100% guarantee the Sydal Brothers will go over clean. Very seldom do any of the "jobbers" beat established talent in AEW. While the match will be of high quality I'm doubtful it'll help the young guys any. I thought this show was about elevating young talent, maybe I'm wrong? I hope Elevation doesn't become Dark 2.0 which is the vibe I'm getting.
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Post by Celgress on Mar 12, 2021 15:13:53 GMT -5
I call them like I see them. This is a waste. Even if Show's asking price is low (which I doubt) there is no return on this investment unless the series he commentates is of great importance. I'm going to ask you a question - Is there anything you are willing to criticize AEW for? You've consistently defended them, at times alone, from every bit of criticism they've received on this forum. I have criticized AEW before, I just think some of the things like this that they get criticized for are completely overblown Big Show's doing way more for the company than commentary, but it's what he will be doing first for Elevation, and that's what was advertised from the start. He will also be working backstage, doing various things, and then will eventually be working in the ring again which he has said himself, but it's not going to be straight away. Doing commentary is a dream job of his, he stated as such, so him getting a show where he can call like 12 matches in his first outing with Tony Shiavonie is a big deal to see if he can sink or swim in doing it. Forgive me if I don't want to call something immediately a failure with AEW when they have constantly proven they know what they're doing long term, and have paid off a ton of things people have been harsh on in the beginning. Big Show calling matches to me seems like a really low pole to be upset about, but if you think it's a waste it's your opinion and that's fine? I just like giving how I see it, sorry it's not negative lol. Thank you for answering my question.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 12, 2021 15:19:30 GMT -5
Wondering if this is just a mega card for the first show. Guess we'll see once the card for Dark comes out. Regardless, it's more paychecks for wrestlers and more chances to get on the roster for people. It's how we get our Bear Country's and Abadon's so I'm all for more exposure.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 15:21:43 GMT -5
I have criticized AEW before, I just think some of the things like this that they get criticized for are completely overblown Big Show's doing way more for the company than commentary, but it's what he will be doing first for Elevation, and that's what was advertised from the start. He will also be working backstage, doing various things, and then will eventually be working in the ring again which he has said himself, but it's not going to be straight away. Doing commentary is a dream job of his, he stated as such, so him getting a show where he can call like 12 matches in his first outing with Tony Shiavonie is a big deal to see if he can sink or swim in doing it. Forgive me if I don't want to call something immediately a failure with AEW when they have constantly proven they know what they're doing long term, and have paid off a ton of things people have been harsh on in the beginning. Big Show calling matches to me seems like a really low pole to be upset about, but if you think it's a waste it's your opinion and that's fine? I just like giving how I see it, sorry it's not negative lol. Thank you for answering my question. You're very welcome, I know you weren't asking it out of spite or in any negative fashion, I have no problem explaining my stances
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 15:23:16 GMT -5
If it's a DARK 2 with more character development I really dont mind since I love DARK and it's an easy watch for me. But as Bolty said, I have no clue how to gauge this, whether DARK will now be a much shorter show, or this is just a big first card because it's Elevation's first show.
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Post by chrom on Mar 12, 2021 15:36:06 GMT -5
Wondering if this is just a mega card for the first show. Guess we'll see once the card for Dark comes out. Regardless, it's more paychecks for wrestlers and more chances to get on the roster for people. It's how we get our Bear Country's and Abadon's so I'm all for more exposure. That maybe how it is, though I would've had some more name vs name matches on there.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 12, 2021 15:39:54 GMT -5
Wondering if this is just a mega card for the first show. Guess we'll see once the card for Dark comes out. Regardless, it's more paychecks for wrestlers and more chances to get on the roster for people. It's how we get our Bear Country's and Abadon's so I'm all for more exposure. That maybe how it is, though I would've had some more name vs name matches on there. Yeah, it was looking like that was the case at first when they announced the card. Don't see why we couldn't have some Hybrid 2/Sydel Bros matches or Beat Country vs Janela and Sonny Kiss. Stuff like that would be fine I'd think.
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Post by clifford on Mar 12, 2021 15:40:38 GMT -5
What are we doing here AEW? Cause this just seems like 2 episodes of Dark a week now instead of 1. If you like that, more power to ya, but I ain't got time for a dozen plus squash matches once a week, let alone twice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 15:49:55 GMT -5
I always wanted to have a company have a giant WCW sized roster with main eventers all the way to Saturday Main Event regulars. Seriously this is getting to the point where Thunder would be Worldwide.
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Post by Celgress on Mar 12, 2021 15:52:22 GMT -5
Thank you for answering my question. You're very welcome, I know you weren't asking it out of spite or in any negative fashion, I have no problem explaining my stances Thanks, I was genuinely curious because you seem to defend AEW management no matter what. You are very loyal.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 16:16:00 GMT -5
You're very welcome, I know you weren't asking it out of spite or in any negative fashion, I have no problem explaining my stances Thanks, I was genuinely curious because you seem to defend AEW management no matter what. You are very loyal. I look for logic in things, AEW has a lot of logic in their stories even if some people aren't fans of certain directions so I like to try and bring that logic into the discussion or for directions of certain talents I think I was one of the more level headed posters here when the women's division was an absolute trainwreck... I like to think I've been rewarded for that in spades especially this upcoming week lol. I'd say I'm loyal because AEW hasn't done anything to truly make me say "F*** you", not in a grand way anyway. They've given me plenty of goodwill to show me things will play out or have a satisfying payoff, or improve over time, and I really appreciate it. They've probably insulted my intelligence the least of any wrestling company within their lifespan so far.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 16:18:06 GMT -5
I always wanted to have a company have a giant WCW sized roster with main eventers all the way to Saturday Main Event regulars. Seriously this is getting to the point where Thunder would be Worldwide. Their talent pool is incredible. It's also why I'm not really bugged about the card lengths, because I see the matches and I'm just like "Oh good, a match featuring more people I really like right now" And that's not just said about the main talent it's about the enhancement talent, I see peeps like Dani Jordyn, Vary Morales, and Baron Black and I'm like "F*** yeah", that's just how deep this talent pool is lol.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Mar 12, 2021 16:28:26 GMT -5
Man, all these matches have killed my interest in the show completely. I was hoping for a fun 1 hour show but this just seems like more dark. I watch enough wrestling as it is, I don't need another long ass show added to it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 16:30:28 GMT -5
Man, all these matches have killed my interest in the show completely. I was hoping for a fun 1 hour show but this just seems like more dark. I watch enough wrestling as it is, I don't need another long ass show added to it. You can always watch the show later or pick out the matches you want to see, but we also don't know what DARK is gonna look like or if this is the norm for Elevation or just "Big card because premiere"
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Post by markymark on Mar 12, 2021 16:31:48 GMT -5
Man, all these matches have killed my interest in the show completely. I was hoping for a fun 1 hour show but this just seems like more dark. I watch enough wrestling as it is, I don't need another long ass show added to it. Dark on Tuesday might go back to Pre Pandemic mode
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Post by chrom on Mar 12, 2021 20:25:52 GMT -5
Personally since Deeb's injured and will have to vacate it, I'd have Riho/Maki be for the NWA Women's Championship
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Post by toodarkmark on Mar 13, 2021 7:01:51 GMT -5
I will never understand people disliking free wrestling on the internet.
AEW Dark is amazing. Taz and Excaliber are hilarious, and it's an easy watch.
The show hasn't happened yet, so thanks for judging something before you see it. But even so, it's called Dark: Elevation. If you don't like Dark, which is young wrestlers mixed in with veterans, mostly squashes, new names showing up all the time, in Jacksonville, during a pandemic, taped after Dynamite, then yeah, 100% a spin off of that show might not be for you. But Dark has an audience, so now they get to watch things like Jungle Boy versus Danny Limelight for free every week, which makes some people happy.
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Post by clifford on Mar 14, 2021 13:15:48 GMT -5
I will never understand people disliking free wrestling on the internet. AEW Dark is amazing. Taz and Excaliber are hilarious, and it's an easy watch. The show hasn't happened yet, so thanks for judging something before you see it. I have zero problem with more wrestling. No issues whatsoever. The more the better as far as I'm concerned. But personally, Dark doesn't interest me. I literally do not have the time to watch almost nothing but enhancement talent and squash matches. Elevation we thought was going to have a different approach, but now just looks the same as Dark. I have no issues with it or anyone who enjoys that; but I won't be watching. From a purely business standpoint; how does this build on and increase the viewership for AEW? Cause all you'll have is the exact same audience who watch Dark watching Elevation.
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Post by toodarkmark on Mar 14, 2021 13:24:28 GMT -5
I will never understand people disliking free wrestling on the internet. AEW Dark is amazing. Taz and Excaliber are hilarious, and it's an easy watch. The show hasn't happened yet, so thanks for judging something before you see it. I have zero problem with more wrestling. No issues whatsoever. The more the better as far as I'm concerned. But personally, Dark doesn't interest me. I literally do not have the time to watch almost nothing but enhancement talent and squash matches. Elevation we thought was going to have a different approach, but now just looks the same as Dark. I have no issues with it or anyone who enjoys that; but I won't be watching. From a purely business standpoint; how does this build on and increase the viewership for AEW? Cause all you'll have is the exact same audience who watch Dark watching Elevation. You double the views of a show that is monetized on youtube. You have people stumble on the show and watch, discovering a new company with new people. I'm a fan of a lot of the "enhancement talent" and enjoy them on Dark, on social media, and seeing them on the indies when it starts up again. I'm old enough to remember Big Boss Man, Kane, Edge and Hardy Boys as "enhancement talent", so I believe wrestling is more then just two stars going against each other. It's also young lions going against veterans and trying to make it/get over.
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 14, 2021 15:01:02 GMT -5
Man, all these matches have killed my interest in the show completely. I was hoping for a fun 1 hour show but this just seems like more dark. I watch enough wrestling as it is, I don't need another long ass show added to it. Yeah, my interest dropped after the op, Riho vs. Maki Itoh sounds great but the card got watered down after that. I'll still watch though. Personally I just want something akin to early non-gameshow nxt. 1hr I know will fly by. (Just what I want, not necessarily what anyone should do)
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