The Fans Are Starting to Turn On Cody

[lucas_lee]

I dont understand why. Cody has barely won any feuds except for Brodie Lee

[mikeoldmac]

Mar 14, 2021 9:37:25 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Mar 14, 2021 9:05:45 GMT -5 mikeoldmac said:

made no sense to make spears mean more and elevate him?? maybe would have had more of a place if he cheated and beat cody and then cody beats him back least let him score something!

kingston hadnt signed yet still no need to beat him after been powerbombed on thumbtacks not saying he should have lost but why make himself super cody....

undefeated monster than cody beat 1st time of asking... way to show level and what other talent level is like

So they should have invested in letting a guy win who had not yet signed with them and who would be signed with them entirely due to his performance in the match booked as a one-off?

where did i say that!!!! please point out where i did? i said why did he have to get powerbombed onto thumbtacks and kick out!!! i never said should have lost just why kick out of thumbtack spot like i said super cody!

[eJm]

Mar 14, 2021 9:51:14 GMT -5 justsomeguy said:

Mar 14, 2021 7:47:15 GMT -5 Viking Hall said:

While you're right that they didn't know he was terminally ill at the time of the match, they knew something was wrong. His wife has said that he started noticing shortness of breath while he was working out which was the starting point of everything and what led to him getting checked out. The Dog Collar Match took place in October and he was hospitalised before the month was out so I don't think it takes some kind of mental gymnastics to say that they sped up the conclusion to the story so that Brodie could get the care he required rather than it being a case of Cody cutting him down while he was hot as the previous poster suggested.

Whstever way you look at it, the Brodie feud ending abruptly with a Cody win can't be put on Cody.

No one had any idea there was anything wrong with Brodie at that time though. His wife made that clear. He was just supposed to be taking a few weeks off to sell/regroup after the defeat like AEW has done with other heels who lost a big match.

If they had even the slightest inclination that he had any breathing difficulties or anything else that was worrying do you really think they would have booked him in a bloody, violent dog collar match?

Like, from what I remember, the problems started the day after the second Brodie Unrestricted interview.

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Mar 14, 2021 10:04:15 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

I dont understand why. Cody has barely won any feuds except for Brodie Lee

I'd say that's a big part of the problem. For being presented like a top guy and getting a ton of pageantry, he's basically an ineffectual goober.

[A Platypus Rave]

Mar 14, 2021 18:15:32 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Mar 14, 2021 10:04:15 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

I dont understand why. Cody has barely won any feuds except for Brodie Lee

I'd say that's a big part of the problem. For being presented like a top guy and getting a ton of pageantry, he's basically an ineffectual goober.

the tattoo is causing him to fail >->

[Cyno]

Mar 14, 2021 18:01:28 GMT -5 mikeoldmac said:

Mar 14, 2021 9:37:25 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

So they should have invested in letting a guy win who had not yet signed with them and who would be signed with them entirely due to his performance in the match booked as a one-off?

where did i say that!!!! please point out where i did? i said why did he have to get powerbombed onto thumbtacks and kick out!!! i never said should have lost just why kick out of thumbtack spot like i said super cody!

I can't remember the last time where a regular powerbomb into thumbtacks ended a match, to be fair. It's a brutal looking spot, but almost never one that results in a pinfall. And Kingston doesn't use a powerbomb variant as his finisher either.

As for Brodie, while the illness that ultimately caused his death wasn't caught until after the dog collar match, I remember hearing he had a few nagging injuries that he wanted to take some time off for. Nothing major, but the brutality of the dog-collar match was meant to write him off for a few weeks so he could rest up and heal them. 

[4TheGlory]

One smattering of boos during a ladder match does not = the fans are turning on someone

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Mar 14, 2021 18:15:32 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Mar 14, 2021 10:04:15 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

I dont understand why. Cody has barely won any feuds except for Brodie Lee

I'd say that's a big part of the problem. For being presented like a top guy and getting a ton of pageantry, he's basically an ineffectual goober.

Isn't Cody's career record in AEW like 35-9-2? Some of those losses being of the multi-man variety where he wasn't pinned? Dude's one of the better winners in the company even though he's lost some matches/feuds.

He hasn't really had many feuds is the thing, the biggest ones he lost were to MJF and Jericho, but he's beaten the likes of Brodie, Spears. multiple Darby wins, Archer, and Orange Cassidy, which isn't something I'd call ineffective gooberishness.

There seems to be a weird, ironic crossroads with Cody where some people don't think he's won enough big time matches or some people think he wins too much... I feel like he's won quite a lot, but there is argument that he's lost big matches as to try and not look like a worldbeater, perhaps to his detriment currently.

[They Adam Bradley]

I’ll gladly reply to any Cody hate thread. Every single reason peolle have posted here why fans are turning on him are the same things I’ve been saying for a year. Maybe I just didn’t have as long as tolerance as some, but I’m glad to see others are slowly seeing what I have seen. Cody “Jeff Jarrett” Rhodes.

[Kalmia]

I think that if he turned the pageantry down a little, like coming out of the face tunnel instead of his special secret entrance that only he uses, would help. Save that stuff for big matches on PPV, not jobber squashes on Dynamite. Going overboard like that is a heel trick (look at Kenny), not a face one.

[They Adam Bradley]

He never will. Cody has to have that over the top entrance, fireworks, jacket with his logo on it, and every “young” guy has to be apart of his “nightmare family” I couldn’t say it better than everyone else. Cody could become a jobber and never win a match all year, but nothing will change with how I feel about him. Dude needs a complete change, ditch the corny entrance, ditch having 500 guys around you like your some king and need all your kingdom around you all times. Cody comes off like he’s the dad who’s “above” all the other dads and when they all get together for bbqs and sporting events Cody’s food is the best, and Cody knows the winner to all the games, but he burns the food on purpose and predicts the wrong winners cause even though his whole
Persona is over the top , he just wants to be “one of the guys”

[eJm]

Mar 14, 2021 19:34:19 GMT -5 They Adam Bradley said:

I’ll gladly reply to any Cody hate thread. Every single reason peolle have posted here why fans are turning on him are the same things I’ve been saying for a year. Maybe I just didn’t have as long as tolerance as some, but I’m glad to see others are slowly seeing what I have seen. Cody “Jeff Jarrett” Rhodes.

Having actually watched early TNA when they were uploading them onto YouTube, if what Cody’s doing is a Jeff Jarrett impression, it’s a f***ing terrible Jeff Jarrett impression.

It’s not even “Showstealer” Alex Shane, the British Jeff Jarrett.

[eJm]

Mar 14, 2021 18:46:08 GMT -5 4TheGlory said:

One smattering of boos during a ladder match does not = the fans are turning on someone

Also this should be said too. Dude’s still over, that spot was just a bad idea in concept and execution.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Mar 14, 2021 18:01:28 GMT -5 mikeoldmac said:

Mar 14, 2021 9:37:25 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

So they should have invested in letting a guy win who had not yet signed with them and who would be signed with them entirely due to his performance in the match booked as a one-off?

where did i say that!!!! please point out where i did? i said why did he have to get powerbombed onto thumbtacks and kick out!!! i never said should have lost just why kick out of thumbtack spot like i said super cody!

"maybe would have had more of a place if he cheated and beat cody and then cody beats him back least let him score something"

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I’ll admit I was never a horseman mark.

I think Arn is one of the worst parts of his act.

I would have been fine if it was a one off but he’s looking like José Lothario most weeks.

Nothing screams bad ass face star like a sixty year old man in your corner, and Jericho’s Waffle House menu burn. I can’t unsee it.

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Mar 14, 2021 20:31:38 GMT -5 @uppitynerd said:

I’ll admit I was never a horseman mark.

I think Arn is one of the worst parts of his act.

I would have been fine if it was a one off but he’s looking like José Lothario most weeks.

Nothing screams bad ass face star like a sixty year old man in your corner, and Jericho’s Waffle House menu burn. I can’t unsee it.

Yeah, I have no clue what the point of Arn is actually supposed to be. Cody doesn't need a manager to begin with, but if he must, Brandi was a way better fit for his aesthetic than this old guy who never says or does anything.

[wankah]

Guess the point of having Arn around is to have him analyze and do the coaching stuff, just like in proper sports. I love that personally. It just gives that bit of more legitimacy to this fake sport.

[eJm]

Mar 14, 2021 20:44:27 GMT -5 wankah said:

Guess the point of having Arn around is to have him analyze and do the coaching stuff, just like in proper sports. I love that personally. It just gives that bit of more legitimacy to this fake sport.

Yeah, like, we can debate on whether Cody’s the right person for him (and to his credit, he does manage other people involved with the NF so it’s not like he’s hogging him) but his role is pretty well established.

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Mar 14, 2021 19:41:35 GMT -5 They Adam Bradley said:

He never will. Cody has to have that over the top entrance, fireworks, jacket with his logo on it, and every “young” guy has to be apart of his “nightmare family” I couldn’t say it better than everyone else. Cody could become a jobber and never win a match all year, but nothing will change with how I feel about him. Dude needs a complete change, ditch the corny entrance, ditch having 500 guys around you like your some king and need all your kingdom around you all times. 

The Nightmare Family is as much Dustin, QT and Billy Gunn's as it is Cody

Like Dustin and QT train a lot of the boys and girls, and the likes of Johnson, Solow,and Comoroto flank and wrestle with them for that very reason. Billy is the one who looks after his Sons. Cody is one of the figureheads of the Family but there have clearly been more than just Cody building this "Kingdom" up, and it seems to be leading to a fracture in the group as QT looks like he wants more respect than he's getting.  

Cody only came out with the entire Nightmare Family like once, it's a very amalgamated group, hasn't entirely been a true faction like most others in the company.  

[Welfare Willis]

Mar 14, 2021 20:44:27 GMT -5 wankah said:

Guess the point of having Arn around is to have him analyze and do the coaching stuff, just like in proper sports. I love that personally. It just gives that bit of more legitimacy to this fake sport.

No problem with that or Dustin and Brandi because they're his family. It's when you have this whole nightmare family concept that has more people in it than a McPoyle family reunion. Also it feels like the guy is a heel at times playing a face.