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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 15:35:46 GMT -5
AEW gets a lot of praise for long term booking at things like that (and I agree with most of it) But I personally think they are also guilty of dragging things out and also even trying to make things too complicated The stuff with Omega/Good Brothers and The Young Bucks is a big example I'm fine with storylines taking time to evolve and develop, but they need to stop dragging out the Young Bucks joining Omega, its getting boring. The first week Good Brothers showed up they already joined them and since then theyve been doing the whole 'will they, wont they?' thing and they need to just pull the trigger And please start doing something different with Sting Honestly I find everything with Omega a gigantic chore to sit through because we all know basically every single thing he does is pointless filler until he loses the title to Hangman. I was pretty such sick of the, "Hangman wants to be the top guy, keeps drunkenly failing to get there," storyline a year ago, six more months to get to the damn point just sounds torturous to me. It doesn't help that Gallows and Anderson are probably the last tag team on the planet I'd actually want to watch.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 12, 2021 16:02:51 GMT -5
Cage’s face(?) turn is intriguing.
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Post by markymark on Mar 12, 2021 16:03:49 GMT -5
Cage’s face(?) turn is intriguing. He never fit Team Taz, its for the best for him to go solo as a face.
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Post by chrom on Mar 12, 2021 16:11:42 GMT -5
Cody joining the tag division to tag with Dustin is fine, its better than Cody doing random stuff in singles competition. Its me or this is the first Dynamite Jericho missed? It is, unless he films a video segment to appear in. He had appeared on every episode before this.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 16:20:30 GMT -5
Darby and Cage together is a really fun prospect just off the prospect of Cage starting to like both of them out of respect, and Cage having Sting as a potential mouthpiece would be a very good thing for him if that's the road they're gonna go.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 16:21:30 GMT -5
I mean, it's been two years and the Lucha Bros still have done zero of consequence. At what point can you stop giving the benefit of the doubt? Putting on great matches is their role. Neither speak English that well. So there's a limit to how strong they will be pushed. Pac with them to help that some. Which could lead to them being tag champs down the road. But if you can't promos all the time. There's a limit to how much you will get pushed on American tv. Fans need to lower expectations a bit due to that. Penta having super competitive match with Cody being used right. Rey Fenix being booked in main event matches with Omega or Archer is being used right. If either is going to be used beyond that they need to work on their English and cutting good promos. That's just reality of being on American tv show. Khan's already said Fenix is a future main event superstar for the company, so the language barrier isn't gonna hold them back. I assume this is why they have Alex as Penta's translator now for certain things, to help Penta do more promos and go to that next level beyond a barrier.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 16:25:44 GMT -5
AEW gets a lot of praise for long term booking at things like that (and I agree with most of it) But I personally think they are also guilty of dragging things out and also even trying to make things too complicated The stuff with Omega/Good Brothers and The Young Bucks is a big example I'm fine with storylines taking time to evolve and develop, but they need to stop dragging out the Young Bucks joining Omega, its getting boring. The first week Good Brothers showed up they already joined them and since then theyve been doing the whole 'will they, wont they?' thing and they need to just pull the trigger And please start doing something different with Sting Giving Young Bucks the benefit of the doubt for the onset because they seemed almost forced or reluctant on the first time they did it, and now with Good Brothers constantly getting involved in their stuff they're getting less interested in this whole Kenny thing. It could very well still be a long con swerve, as if The Bucks were the reason Moxley got taken out, it'd be a great moment to fully form Kenny's "Club", I think it's mainly because Young Bucks storylines have a tendency to drag to the creshendo as you said, but deliver when they get there, normally. Giving Sting Brian Cage is a really good way to do this and make the TNT Title picture more broad. Cause then you have Darby, Cage, Archer, Starks, and Hobbs all around it, instead of just feuding over bad blood. The whole Tony Schiavonie interview thing just seems like something he and Sting like doing to set things up, but I do agree the same setup every week can get repetitive to viewers even if it is meant to be a feel good thing.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 12, 2021 18:55:00 GMT -5
AEW gets a lot of praise for long term booking at things like that (and I agree with most of it) But I personally think they are also guilty of dragging things out and also even trying to make things too complicated The stuff with Omega/Good Brothers and The Young Bucks is a big example I'm fine with storylines taking time to evolve and develop, but they need to stop dragging out the Young Bucks joining Omega, its getting boring. The first week Good Brothers showed up they already joined them and since then theyve been doing the whole 'will they, wont they?' thing and they need to just pull the trigger And please start doing something different with Sting Giving Young Bucks the benefit of the doubt for the onset because they seemed almost forced or reluctant on the first time they did it, and now with Good Brothers constantly getting involved in their stuff they're getting less interested in this whole Kenny thing. It could very well still be a long con swerve, as if The Bucks were the reason Moxley got taken out, it'd be a great moment to fully form Kenny's "Club", I think it's mainly because Young Bucks storylines have a tendency to drag to the creshendo as you said, but deliver when they get there, normally. Giving Sting Brian Cage is a really good way to do this and make the TNT Title picture more broad. Cause then you have Darby, Cage, Archer, Starks, and Hobbs all around it, instead of just feuding over bad blood. The whole Tony Schiavonie interview thing just seems like something he and Sting like doing to set things up, but I do agree the same setup every week can get repetitive to viewers even if it is meant to be a feel good thing. The Bucks aligning with Omega Club would most certainly allow for Hangman and Dark Order to have an even battle without making it seem like DO is outnumbering the heels.
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Post by moxfan1 on Mar 12, 2021 19:19:15 GMT -5
Putting on great matches is their role. Neither speak English that well. So there's a limit to how strong they will be pushed. Pac with them to help that some. Which could lead to them being tag champs down the road. But if you can't promos all the time. There's a limit to how much you will get pushed on American tv. Fans need to lower expectations a bit due to that. Penta having super competitive match with Cody being used right. Rey Fenix being booked in main event matches with Omega or Archer is being used right. If either is going to be used beyond that they need to work on their English and cutting good promos. That's just reality of being on American tv show. Khan's already said Fenix is a future main event superstar for the company, so the language barrier isn't gonna hold them back. I assume this is why they have Alex as Penta's translator now for certain things, to help Penta do more promos and go to that next level beyond a barrier. Lol I think it's pretty clear not to hold Tony to his word on hype stuff. Like I said neither are going to grow from what they are until they can talk. Look at Jericho, Mox, Omega or even Cody. You need to be able to talk and cut tons of promos to be top guy level. Maybe over time they can get better. But thAt time isn't right now.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 12, 2021 19:28:22 GMT -5
Nothing about Hangman chugging green beer, guess that is too obvious though.
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Post by BigAl on Mar 12, 2021 20:18:22 GMT -5
So who won the light out Match?baker?
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 12, 2021 20:25:40 GMT -5
Are Penta and Fenix still AAA tag champs? Maybe it'd be less of a sting for people if they got to do anything with that in AEW after winning them in the ladder match against the Young Bucks, but I get that the AAA stuff is always a complex issue.
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Post by chrom on Mar 12, 2021 20:27:58 GMT -5
Are Penta and Fenix still AAA tag champs? Maybe it'd be less of a sting for people if they got to do anything with that in AEW after winning them in the ladder match against the Young Bucks, but I get that the AAA stuff is always a complex issue. Yeah they are
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 12, 2021 22:04:26 GMT -5
Nothing about Hangman chugging green beer, guess that is too obvious though. The spoilers usually leave out pretaped segments, so I imagine we get Hangman/Dark Order antics as a pretaped segment.
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Post by warden on Mar 12, 2021 22:13:45 GMT -5
Business as usual for penta. Too bad I was excited that they were going to let him break out as a singles star Some of us have been deeply wounded by WWE/TNA booking and it shows. And now you can add AEW to finish that holy trinity
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Post by markymark on Mar 12, 2021 22:17:18 GMT -5
Nothing about Hangman chugging green beer, guess that is too obvious though. The spoilers usually leave out pretaped segments, so I imagine we get Hangman/Dark Order antics as a pretaped segment. Yes, the leaker didnt mention anything about the pretaped backstage segments.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Mar 12, 2021 22:24:05 GMT -5
Dang, MJF’s group is so uninteresting to me. I’m can’t wait for Wardlow’s face turn.
His whole run with IC didn’t make much sense or accomplish anything. His plan to form the new group while fooling us also doesn’t really make sense. I wish he’d not remind me he’ll be around for 25 years. I’m not looking forward to it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 22:34:13 GMT -5
Dang, MJF’s group is so uninteresting to me. I’m can’t wait for Wardlow’s face turn. His whole run with IC didn’t make much sense or accomplish anything. His plan to form the new group while fooling us also doesn’t really make sense. I wish he’d not remind me he’ll be around for 25 years. I’m not looking forward to it. The whole point of him in IC was he wanted to show he was better than Chris. If his group turns on Chris, he has even more people under his thumb, if they don't, like they didn't, he has a backup plan. MJF's all about control and thinking steps ahead. IC didn't come off looking like chumps, but MJF came out looking like a mastermind, and in every Jericho tag match, Jericho was the one taking a lot of the heat, and in the end taking the pins, so it was very deliberate. MJF's probably one of the biggest prospects of wrestling. Him staying fresh in those potential 25 years will be key though, that's something he SHOULD take from Jericho.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 22:35:00 GMT -5
The spoilers usually leave out pretaped segments, so I imagine we get Hangman/Dark Order antics as a pretaped segment. Yes, the leaker didnt mention anything about the pretaped backstage segments. This would probably be a good time to get some official words from Christian.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 12, 2021 22:39:12 GMT -5
Some of us have been deeply wounded by WWE/TNA booking and it shows. And now you can add AEW to finish that holy trinity For what? Lol. I want Penta pushed as much as you do, but the end of the match proved Cody won via fluke and this isn't over Penta's probably going to destroy him if he's out here kicking out of Cody's finishers. Last time Penta lost by the skin of his teeth, to Fenix, he came back and killed Fenix. Have a feeling he's gonna do the same to Cody. With how AEW has turned acts around, makes you care about wrestlers, and can present someone like a legit star in such short order, there's no way Penta will just be written out. If it wasn't for that ankle injury I have a feeling he would have been pushed harder too, that was unfortunate timing, but the fact theyre doing so right when he's back is a good sign. Giving him Alex as a way around promos even more so. Dude's a star, he has a star look, one of the coolest presences in all of wrestling, I hope he gets his due in AEW this year.
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