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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 16, 2022 17:25:00 GMT -5
Jimmy follows several BE A REAL ALPHA MAN accounts, which is just darkly hilarious. He also follows the #awakening tag on IG, which is the tag QANON followers use on more public social media to fly under the radar. I kept thinking that the Jimmy people were referring to was Cornette but I remembered that Corny is a giant lefty. Sad to say it, but it shouldn't be surprising if some more overt left-leaning accounts and people are discovered to have gone down the Q/alt-right rabbit hole. Jacobs himself hosted a progressive-politics podcast until late 2019, so he may be one of many who became indoctrinated during the initial 2020 lockdown. Typically the left-leaning pipeline to QAnon comes in the form of "natural cures" / "natural healing" which then goes into the anti-vaxx realm which then opens the floodgates. This is also how Q conspiracy bullshit spread so quickly in easily susceptible MLM circles. There's even a whole new age pipeline of hippie weirdos into environmental stuff who have fallen into these belief circles. That's been the real danger in QAnon as the ultimate big tent conspiracy theory; virtually any frontier of influencer can be caught up in comorbid and adjacent conspiracy theories and even just beliefs like holistic health, and turning those into things that then suck people down deep, and once you start to make bedfellows with conspiracists on one topic, you become way moreo pen to what else they may have to say, so seeking out anti-vax or anti-lockdown communities will quickly get you met with misinformation about government health departments being on Pfizer's payroll and then into deep strate stuff and then before you know it, you're understanding the vaccine is a 'first world sterilization' plan and you're telling your cousins at Christmas about 'The Great Replacement' while they awkwardly stare down at Aunt Connie's pork roast trying very hard not to be the one who says something. But you're still there with your crystals and your mandala shawl, effortlessly transitioning into talking about vibrations and how you feel so much better ever since you began drinking a glass of vinegar every day to detox. It's a nightmare that'll just creep up like that.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 16, 2022 18:04:28 GMT -5
Jimmy follows several BE A REAL ALPHA MAN accounts, which is just darkly hilarious. He also follows the #awakening tag on IG, which is the tag QANON followers use on more public social media to fly under the radar. I kept thinking that the Jimmy people were referring to was Cornette but I remembered that Corny is a giant lefty. Sad to say it, but it shouldn't be surprising if some more overt left-leaning accounts and people are discovered to have gone down the Q/alt-right rabbit hole. Jacobs himself hosted a progressive-politics podcast until late 2019, so he may be one of many who became indoctrinated during the initial 2020 lockdown. Typically the left-leaning pipeline to QAnon comes in the form of "natural cures" / "natural healing" which then goes into the anti-vaxx realm which then opens the floodgates. This is also how Q conspiracy bullshit spread so quickly in easily susceptible MLM circles. Jim Cornette is not a QAnon supporter. He may be a racist, a pig, an idiot, a QAnon supporter, but he is NOT a porn star!
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 16, 2022 18:12:29 GMT -5
He also follows the #awakening tag on IG, which is the tag QANON followers use on more public social media to fly under the radar. Sad to say it, but it shouldn't be surprising if some more overt left-leaning accounts and people are discovered to have gone down the Q/alt-right rabbit hole. Jacobs himself hosted a progressive-politics podcast until late 2019, so he may be one of many who became indoctrinated during the initial 2020 lockdown. Typically the left-leaning pipeline to QAnon comes in the form of "natural cures" / "natural healing" which then goes into the anti-vaxx realm which then opens the floodgates. This is also how Q conspiracy bullshit spread so quickly in easily susceptible MLM circles. There's even a whole new age pipeline of hippie weirdos into environmental stuff who have fallen into these belief circles. That's been the real danger in QAnon as the ultimate big tent conspiracy theory; virtually any frontier of influencer can be caught up in comorbid and adjacent conspiracy theories and even just beliefs like holistic health, and turning those into things that then suck people down deep, and once you start to make bedfellows with conspiracists on one topic, you become way moreo pen to what else they may have to say, so seeking out anti-vax or anti-lockdown communities will quickly get you met with misinformation about government health departments being on Pfizer's payroll and then into deep strate stuff and then before you know it, you're understanding the vaccine is a 'first world sterilization' plan and you're telling your cousins at Christmas about 'The Great Replacement' while they awkwardly stare down at Aunt Connie's pork roast trying very hard not to be the one who says something. But you're still there with your crystals and your mandala shawl, effortlessly transitioning into talking about vibrations and how you feel so much better ever since you began drinking a glass of vinegar every day to detox. It's a nightmare that'll just creep up like that. It's the omni conspiracy theory, incorporating a little bit of everything in the wrapping paper they've used to cover up that it's just the protocols of the elders of zion. There's just enough to be used as an in for people who believe conspiracy theory A without alienating people who believe theory B and the whole thing is nebulous enough that all conspiracies can be true, or not, with the response to all failed predictions being 'Disinformation is necessary.'
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 16, 2022 18:13:13 GMT -5
Jim Cornette is not a QAnon supporter. He may be a racist, a pig, an idiot, a QAnon supporter, but he is NOT a porn star!
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 16, 2022 18:35:18 GMT -5
I don't buy his explanation. Is Biff so well off that if a guy like Wuertz just hits him up for cash, he isn't going to ask what it's for or when he's going to be paid back? On the other end, if Wuertz is fundraising without disclosing what it's for he's breaking campaign finance law. I could see Wuertz being that aggressively stupid but the whole thing reeks of "I got backlash that may cost me bookings, so I need to cover my ass"
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 16, 2022 18:37:52 GMT -5
He just posts VERY far-right stuff, talks poorly about anyone not white (a LOT of arguments about why black people are worse than white people in those exact terms), is a "truther" about various things, anti-vax, a lot of anti-muslim propaganda, just...name a shitty person thing, and he does it. I witnessed all of this myself, and even had screenshots. I might have posted them on Twitter, actually. I'll see if I can find them. But yeah, I went from a big fan to...let's just say I don't care what happens to him, and it happened REALLY fast. So he basically pulled a Lars Sullivan. And speaking of which, surprised he hasn’t shown up in CYN yet. I don't see CYN's crowd warming to a guy who did gay porn no matter how much of a man's man he is now.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Mar 16, 2022 18:48:28 GMT -5
Checking the actual list, Biff gave him 100 bucks. I can totally see Drake asking to borrow a hundo and Biff helping him out.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 16, 2022 18:52:26 GMT -5
Checking the actual list, Biff gave him 100 bucks. I can totally see Drake asking to borrow a hundo and Biff helping him out. Money doesn't get returned to donors regardless of the outcome. Either Biff knew what he was donating to and didn't care, or Drake lied to him, or Biff was too stupid to ask even basic questions.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 16, 2022 19:40:07 GMT -5
Checking the actual list, Biff gave him 100 bucks. I can totally see Drake asking to borrow a hundo and Biff helping him out. Money doesn't get returned to donors regardless of the outcome. Either Biff knew what he was donating to and didn't care, or Drake lied to him, or Biff was too stupid to ask even basic questions. I mean he hasn't figured out his capslock is stuck yet >_>
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 20:10:26 GMT -5
I kept thinking that the Jimmy people were referring to was Cornette but I remembered that Corny is a giant lefty. Is he? He’s been racist, misogynistic, homophobic and a host of other reactionary prejudices for years now, quite openly and proudly too. I know he despised the last president but people do have a habit of reacting with disgust when they see their own character reflected back at them by someone else.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Mar 16, 2022 20:25:39 GMT -5
So great that Bobby Fish has been given way more time on Dynamite than the likes of Sonny Kiss. Just such a good decision. No possible reason for it to backfire. Bobby Fish is mediocre and I will not be swayed. I don't care what he did in ROH. He has no discernible mic skills.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Mar 16, 2022 20:27:12 GMT -5
I kept thinking that the Jimmy people were referring to was Cornette but I remembered that Corny is a giant lefty. Is he? He’s been racist, misogynistic, homophobic and a host of other reactionary prejudices for years now, quite openly and proudly too. I know he despised the last president but people do have a habit of reacting with disgust when they see their own character reflected back at them by someone else. As far as I know, Cornette's not a Q supporter. Doesn't excuse anything he's said/done.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Mar 16, 2022 20:35:01 GMT -5
Jimmy follows several BE A REAL ALPHA MAN accounts, which is just darkly hilarious. He also follows the #awakening tag on IG, which is the tag QANON followers use on more public social media to fly under the radar. I kept thinking that the Jimmy people were referring to was Cornette but I remembered that Corny is a giant lefty. Sad to say it, but it shouldn't be surprising if some more overt left-leaning accounts and people are discovered to have gone down the Q/alt-right rabbit hole. Jacobs himself hosted a progressive-politics podcast until late 2019, so he may be one of many who became indoctrinated during the initial 2020 lockdown. Typically the left-leaning pipeline to QAnon comes in the form of "natural cures" / "natural healing" which then goes into the anti-vaxx realm which then opens the floodgates. This is also how Q conspiracy bullshit spread so quickly in easily susceptible MLM circles. I can speak firsthand, having done some research of my own into many of the "natural cures"/"natural healing" B.S. It led me down the rabbit hole to conspiracy sites. I wrote that shit off years ago so I have to laugh when I see the Qs regurgitating crap that's been around for 30-40 years already.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 16, 2022 21:56:57 GMT -5
I’m a fairly trusting person but, anytime anybody asks me for any amount of money, my first question is always “For what?”
That’s just common sense. Trust, but verify. It’s not that hard.
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Post by eJm on Mar 16, 2022 23:19:43 GMT -5
I just wanted to say a couple of things; first, most of you have been not crossing any lines but just keep that in mind before posting since this topic doesn’t need to be shut.
The second thing is more a general point than a mod point, don’t push the narrative of “Oh, I didn’t like the guy anyway” in terms of ability. This stuff isn’t binary to good people do good and bad people do bad, talented people can do bad things in the same way they can do good. It’s not as bad here as other places but just keep that in mind as well.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Mar 17, 2022 4:22:53 GMT -5
Checking the actual list, Biff gave him 100 bucks. I can totally see Drake asking to borrow a hundo and Biff helping him out. Money doesn't get returned to donors regardless of the outcome. Either Biff knew what he was donating to and didn't care, or Drake lied to him, or Biff was too stupid to ask even basic questions. Biff did tell Bix that he isn't exactly a rocket scientist.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 17, 2022 14:51:47 GMT -5
I don't buy his explanation. Is Biff so well off that if a guy like Wuertz just hits him up for cash, he isn't going to ask what it's for or when he's going to be paid back? His explanation is notable mostly just because it exists. It is definitely not typical Q supporter behavior to explicitly deny being a Q supporter.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 17, 2022 15:18:08 GMT -5
So great that Bobby Fish has been given way more time on Dynamite than the likes of Sonny Kiss. Just such a good decision. No possible reason for it to backfire. Bobby Fish is mediocre and I will not be swayed. I don't care what he did in ROH. He has no discernible mic skills. This bullshit aside, I would have agreed with you if I had seen this before recent BTE's and Revolution, the dude's off the cuff one liners during matches have actually been a personal highlight for me, and has made me enjoy Bobby Fish more than I ever have That being said, him being on the list of names is not a good look, and it would probably be something that he should walk back on or like, not do publicly again and derail a potentially huge storyline within the company. If it's like Biff and he presumably wasn't told what it was for, I'd probably cover my ass regardless lol Also... it's really funny to me that "Robert Fish" is actually just his real name, lmfao
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Post by Tiffany Stratton's Daddy on Mar 17, 2022 15:22:51 GMT -5
Riddle probably thought he was buying services from Mary Jane when he gave Drake that money lol
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 17, 2022 15:29:47 GMT -5
Riddle probably thought he was buying services from Mary Jane when he gave Drake that money lol Don't know really anything about Riddle as a person but... I could totally see Riddle giving money to Wuertz because he was asked while he was high ... not much of an excuse because I assume for Riddle that is literally at any point of any day...
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