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Post by flowercity on Mar 25, 2021 15:43:06 GMT -5
AEW had 757k total viewers, drawing a .30 in the main 18-49 demo. It was sixth for the night on cable.
Frankly, these have been bad numbers for AEW recently. They BARELY beat NXT in the Male 12-34 demo (.14 vs .13). They overall demo is up a tad, but the show seems to have no momentum, even if I have personally been loving the shows.
They really need to freshen things up. Demo and overall viewership has dropped pretty steadily since the winter. And especially since Revolution. I think a change of scenery would do a world of good. That basically means back to being in front of packed houses. I know they’re hesitant to do it but they should be exploring every possible way to do it safely.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 25, 2021 15:47:36 GMT -5
No they are already the the limit of what is safe with crowds. Numbers are not as important as lifes.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Mar 25, 2021 15:49:53 GMT -5
Meh? They could do 750k every week for as long as the company exists, and it'll be good for them. The consistent top ten placement also suggests that they are getting about as good a slice of the live TV viewership pie as there is to get. Yeah, #6 is not #1, but when #1 is usually news, that just seems like how the world is going to work.
I'll take "AEW survives and keeps being the kind of wrestling that I enjoy" over "AEW beats a million every week."
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Post by eJm on Mar 25, 2021 15:51:24 GMT -5
Let's go back to the "let's have packed houses safely" discussion after the inevitable super spreader event known as UFC 261 happens.
If WWE isn't even considering having crowds again after WrestleMania, a company I was sure was going to be the first to try, there's probably a really good reason for that.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 25, 2021 15:55:14 GMT -5
There is no way to do a packed crowd safely. It's literally impossible now.
They're also fine. It was a status quo show and got a status quo audience.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 25, 2021 15:55:20 GMT -5
They were still 6th on the night and had a great demo showing
Show wasn't built around a giant card, sometimes you just need to build your stuff and other wrestlers up and not have a blowout show every week. It's not gonna do groundbreaking viewership but it's getting the job done, and they're ranked sixth, they have a consistent audience that isn't going away, that's what TNT cares about.
They'll go back up. They have three more weeks of "Wednesday Night War" and that's over. Could see their viewership increase by then anyway. Also curious as always to see how the breakdown looks.
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Post by flowercity on Mar 25, 2021 15:55:44 GMT -5
Meh? They could do 750k every week for as long as the company exists, and it'll be good for them. The consistent top ten placement also suggests that they are getting about as good a slice of the live TV viewership pie as there is to get. Yeah, #6 is not #1, but when #1 is usually news, that just seems like how the world is going to work. I'll take "AEW survives and keeps being the kind of wrestling that I enjoy" over "AEW beats a million every week." News has been way way down since the second impeachment trial. Highest ranking news show was 10th last night. They are losing to sports and entertainment.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 25, 2021 15:56:17 GMT -5
All AEW needs to move numbers is a hot storyline
Sadly the explosion failing put a stop to any chances of that,so they need to find something that click.
Plus this week had a lot of focus on building unproven talent,so now surprised it wouldnt have a big jump
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Post by eJm on Mar 25, 2021 15:58:35 GMT -5
Meh? They could do 750k every week for as long as the company exists, and it'll be good for them. The consistent top ten placement also suggests that they are getting about as good a slice of the live TV viewership pie as there is to get. Yeah, #6 is not #1, but when #1 is usually news, that just seems like how the world is going to work. I'll take "AEW survives and keeps being the kind of wrestling that I enjoy" over "AEW beats a million every week." News has been way way down since the second impeachment trial. Highest ranking news show was 10th last night. They are losing to sports and entertainment. And some of that sports and entertainment are highly established brands people know about on cable. It's a show that hasn't even been on for 2 years consistently cracking the top 10 to the point where TNT's opening the gates for them to have their own Miz and Mrs. Like, it could be doing better but their own expectations at the start were half what it's doing now.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 25, 2021 15:58:45 GMT -5
Meh? They could do 750k every week for as long as the company exists, and it'll be good for them. The consistent top ten placement also suggests that they are getting about as good a slice of the live TV viewership pie as there is to get. Yeah, #6 is not #1, but when #1 is usually news, that just seems like how the world is going to work. I'll take "AEW survives and keeps being the kind of wrestling that I enjoy" over "AEW beats a million every week." News has been way way down since the second impeachment trial. Highest ranking news show was 10th last night. They are losing to sports and entertainment. Highest news show was 7th, Tucker got almost 3 Million Views at 8PM that night. Otherwise the other things in the demo are always the other things in the demo AEW may usually be under. NBA, Real Housewifes, and The Challenge.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Mar 25, 2021 15:59:14 GMT -5
Meh? They could do 750k every week for as long as the company exists, and it'll be good for them. The consistent top ten placement also suggests that they are getting about as good a slice of the live TV viewership pie as there is to get. Yeah, #6 is not #1, but when #1 is usually news, that just seems like how the world is going to work. I'll take "AEW survives and keeps being the kind of wrestling that I enjoy" over "AEW beats a million every week." News has been way way down since the second impeachment trial. Highest ranking news show was 10th last night. They are losing to sports and entertainment. I stand corrected on news, but stand by the rest of my point: being in the top ten on TV is thriving, it ensures that a show I like is still on the air (and given lavish network support), and satisfies everything I need to care about as a fan. The main reason I care about the ratings is detached curiosity for how everything fits in with everything else. It's neat to know what does especially well or especially poorly, but ultimately, it only really matters in the sense of not killing the things I really like.
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Post by flowercity on Mar 25, 2021 15:59:45 GMT -5
News has been way way down since the second impeachment trial. Highest ranking news show was 10th last night. They are losing to sports and entertainment. Highest news show was 7th, Tucker got almost 3 Million Views at 8PM that night. Otherwise the other things in the demo are always the other things in the demo AEW may usually be under. NBA, Real Housewifes, and The Challenge. Tucker was 10th www.showbuzzdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/2021-Mar-24-WED-Nat-Cable.png
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 25, 2021 15:59:54 GMT -5
They'll be fine. They're retaining large portions of their audience. They've dipped a bit in women (which seems to be within the same households as other viewers so less couples are watching together) and among some teenagers. They usually dominate the M18-49 demo. These numbers are fine. In theory they'll start seeing some growth in a few weeks going unopposed. And by that point, you'll likely start heating up for the next TV special and then right into Double or Nothing which should be a loaded card (I'd do Blood and Guts there). It's not great, you always want to see growth. But it's fine.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 25, 2021 16:00:09 GMT -5
There is no way to do a packed crowd safely. It's literally impossible now. They're also fine. It was a status quo show and got a status quo audience. We won't see fully packed indoor houses until Fall at the earliest, and that's gonna depend on numbers and vaccine distibution by the summer, which has been a good trend already which hopefully keeps up UFC's doing it way too early though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 16:00:21 GMT -5
Frankly, these have been bad numbers for AEW recently. I don’t really agree with this. They’ve been “bad” numbers in terms of the maximum number that Dynamite set, but that maximum number was way higher than anyone was expecting. Remember, this is a show that was, by all accounts, expected to draw 450-500k when it first debuted. If AEW continues to be Top 10 on cable on Wednesday nights, it’ll be in very good shape going forward. 750K seems to be emerging as the consistent viewership floor, and I think that’s a good thing, not something to be alarmed about. We get too mired down in Nielsen Ratings, which really, objectively, are not an especially good or accurate metric of how popular or successful something is in 2021. Notwithstanding that wrestling itself is a niche thing that is not super likely to ever become ubiquitous in society again, a lot of people just don’t watch live television anymore. Dynamite is being watched on the app, on FITE by people using VPNs, and other methods. As long as the company continues to be profitable and put on a quality wrestling product that we enjoy, we should be content. Sure, I’d love to see AEW continue to grow and thrive, but pandering to the mythical “casual fan” (which I’m not entirely convinced even exists anymore for wrestling) isn’t the way to do it. AEW’s road to success is to make wrestling fans want to watch its product, not to convert non-wrestling fans into fans. Just my two cents.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 25, 2021 16:02:57 GMT -5
Cody and Brandi getting a reality show on TNT says more about what Warner thinks about the AEW brand than anything regarding week-to-week ratings numbers. They're now a stable, reliable brand that, when you figure in DVR numbers, usually gets at least a million viewers week-to-week.
The chicken little act is really unnecessary.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 25, 2021 16:02:59 GMT -5
Was lookin at the wrong one, my bad. Still got over 3 million viewers Anyway AEW still did well, still got 6th, only usual culprits as I listed were above them. I think some people put too much stock into the viewership every week, there's gonna be weeks like this. The important thing is AEW's bottom seems to be like 700K, they do not and have not gone lower than NXT has, and they've more than shown the ability to climb up. TNT just announced another AEW branded show last night, so really, they're in the gravy.
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Post by flowercity on Mar 25, 2021 16:15:18 GMT -5
Cody and Brandi getting a reality show on TNT says more about what Warner thinks about the AEW brand than anything regarding week-to-week ratings numbers. They're now a stable, reliable brand that, when you figure in DVR numbers, usually gets at least a million viewers week-to-week. The chicken little act is really unnecessary. I’m not doing a chicken little act. I never said they’re in trouble. Anyone who can recognize me knows I’m as big as an AEW stan as one can be. I don’t think it’s doom and gloom. But the numbers are down anyway you look at it. I try to be objective, and the numbers are not good right now. Also, when it comes to UFC, we all assume something will spread there. And if I had to bet, I would guess so as well. But...what if it doesn’t? What if there’s no discernible link to spread there akin to the Super Bowl? I know there was 57 cases there but none of those people can proven to have caught it there. Most of those who tested positive reported having close contacts with maskless people indoors or going to bars. Obviously, UFC is at a way higher risk being indoors. Why not AEW try to do smaller outdoor venues? There are ways to be creative rather than just not trying at all.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 25, 2021 16:23:47 GMT -5
Cody and Brandi getting a reality show on TNT says more about what Warner thinks about the AEW brand than anything regarding week-to-week ratings numbers. They're now a stable, reliable brand that, when you figure in DVR numbers, usually gets at least a million viewers week-to-week. The chicken little act is really unnecessary. I’m not doing a chicken little act. I never said they’re in trouble. Anyone who can recognize me knows I’m as big as an AEW stan as one can be. I don’t think it’s doom and gloom. But the numbers are down anyway you look at it. I try to be objective, and the numbers are not good right now. Also, when it comes to UFC, we all assume something will spread there. And if I had to bet, I would guess so as well. But...what if it doesn’t? What if there’s no discernible link to spread there akin to the Super Bowl? I know there was 57 cases there but none of those people can proven to have caught it there. Most of those who tested positive reported having close contacts with maskless people indoors or going to bars. Obviously, UFC is at a way higher risk being indoors. Why not AEW try to do smaller outdoor venues? There are ways to be creative rather than just not trying at all. Daily's is a no risk, basically no cost venue to run in, there is absolutely no reason to take risks. It's as you said, let UFC live or due by the wrose, and they're gonna potentially follow along or go by what happens, same with WWE and other sports. I also don't think the numbers are bad when theyve shown to consistently get 750k on "bad" days and are still 6th in the demo. They also have a lot of viewers who watch later which usually take their viewership of the show to well over a million. Again, Nielson Viewers are not the end all be all.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 25, 2021 16:31:22 GMT -5
Aew tends to have a couple weeks like this after their pay per views as they reset things and bring new acts forward. Wouldn't shock me if in the next month or 2 you see the numbers climb I'm the build up to double or nothing then go down again
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