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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 30, 2021 13:29:47 GMT -5
It's really something I feel people are jumping the gun on currently just because of how much we don't know. Like they could form an alliance but it doesn't mean they're just gonna be a team, or a faction. Could just mean they have a match together vs The Sydal's, could mean something more. Going off one psot match segment isn't easy lol. It could very well be the start of a faction tho AEW is running close to having way too many of those as well Eh, to me I agree with those who say factions are a benefit to making AEW stand out and feel fresher. It helps guys get noticed, it helps them develop even If it all lead to my speculated faction which was QT, Sky, Page, Comoroto, Ogogo, Solow. I wouldn't be opposed. As some peeps have said, AEW likes itself some New Japan inspiration, so they like their factions, and I like seeing how they form and change around, even crumble and collapse. We'll see though, if anything else, it shows Page and Sky could help each other out in the company, and in a company with a lot of factions it's at the very least good to have a friend.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Mar 30, 2021 13:32:30 GMT -5
So he's in a team again Bad use of Ethan Page too I will hold back judgement until it gets some time then That's where I'm at right now. Gonna wait to see how it turns out but boy it's disappointing to see. I really thought they'd do something good with Page right out the gate.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 30, 2021 13:36:02 GMT -5
So he's in a team again Bad use of Ethan Page too I will hold back judgement until it gets some time then That's where I'm at right now. Gonna wait to see how it turns out but boy it's disappointing to see. I really thought they'd do something good with Page right out the gate. I mean Page is undefeated and has been looking better and better as he's wrestled, his match with Fuego last night might've been his best so far, him being a part of a faction doesn't mean he still couldn't be the ace of a faction, and be the one who succeeds out of it, if there was one. It's better than Ethan Page doing nothing, and it'd give Page something to work on while the upper card works through storylines he could then fit into down the line, like challenging Darby and such.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 30, 2021 14:13:52 GMT -5
It could very well be the start of a faction tho AEW is running close to having way too many of those as well Eh, to me I agree with those who say factions are a benefit to making AEW stand out and feel fresher. It helps guys get noticed, it helps them develop even If it all lead to my speculated faction which was QT, Sky, Page, Comoroto, Ogogo, Solow. I wouldn't be opposed. As some peeps have said, AEW likes itself some New Japan inspiration, so they like their factions, and I like seeing how they form and change around, even crumble and collapse. We'll see though, if anything else, it shows Page and Sky could help each other out in the company, and in a company with a lot of factions it's at the very least good to have a friend. Yes and no It doesn’t make you stand in a good way when the whole roster is grouped up. Feels like NWO WCW more so than NJPW. At least in NJPW you have dominate factions and ones we know by name. When a new faction pops up, it gains instant credibility cause that doesn’t happen This is another one of those things where it’s a good idea in theory but not everyone should be creating some type of group. You got The Elite, Pinnacle, Rhodes Family, BC Lite, Inner Circle, Dark Order, whatever the hell Peter Avalon is doing, Hardy Family, Taz group, and I’m missing a few in there Less is more The best thing about it is it makes someone like Jon Moxley and Darby Allin stand out more
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Mar 30, 2021 14:24:51 GMT -5
Sometimes get fatigued on the sense there seems to be a new faction forming every other week, but I also think it's quite an elegant and seamless way to keep everyone on the go. You can cycle guys between the singles, tag or trios programs pretty seamlessly if everyone has some sort of affiliation.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Mar 30, 2021 14:34:09 GMT -5
It's weird, because pairing Scorpio - a guy who was brought in because he was successful as part of a team - up with a decently hot prospect who just came off a very well regarded tag run is a very logical and good idea. Clearly both guys have the ability to thrive in a team and have some congruence in style and character at this time.
Yet, it feels like a misstep, and maybe that's just because Scorpio has felt cursed throughout his AEW run and Page is suffering from the vibe that he was hired less because he fills a unique niche or shakes things up, but because he was good enough that Tony Khan would regret passing him up. In theory, both guys needed something of substance, but also it feels like both of them would have felt like bigger deals if they were moving up in singles.
Then again, Scorpio's coming off a few months of getting nowhere as a single, so like...why not?
It just feels lukewarm all around. Two super-talented wrestlers who are currently very lukewarm, teaming up because they are both good tag wrestlers and because there's probably a good feud or three that they can run through as a team.
Maybe it's because an Ethan Page/Scorpio Sky team is a good use of both wrestlers, but not really exciting on its own.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 30, 2021 14:53:42 GMT -5
Eh, to me I agree with those who say factions are a benefit to making AEW stand out and feel fresher. It helps guys get noticed, it helps them develop even If it all lead to my speculated faction which was QT, Sky, Page, Comoroto, Ogogo, Solow. I wouldn't be opposed. As some peeps have said, AEW likes itself some New Japan inspiration, so they like their factions, and I like seeing how they form and change around, even crumble and collapse. We'll see though, if anything else, it shows Page and Sky could help each other out in the company, and in a company with a lot of factions it's at the very least good to have a friend. Yes and no It doesn’t make you stand in a good way when the whole roster is grouped up. Feels like NWO WCW more so than NJPW. At least in NJPW you have dominate factions and ones we know by name. When a new faction pops up, it gains instant credibility cause that doesn’t happen This is another one of those things where it’s a good idea in theory but not everyone should be creating some type of group. You got The Elite, Pinnacle, Rhodes Family, BC Lite, Inner Circle, Dark Order, whatever the hell Peter Avalon is doing, Hardy Family, Taz group, and I’m missing a few in there Less is more The best thing about it is it makes someone like Jon Moxley and Darby Allin stand out more I think the best thing about AEW factions is it can also vary from 3 to well beyond 3 people, which leads to storyline flexibility. For Dark Order/HFO you need two big groups slamming each other, for Pinnacle/Inner Circle five on five is a great number to lead to potentially Blood and Guts, for Kenny's group you have Gallows and Anderson being his heavies and planting seeds of doubt in the Young Bucks while Kenny does his thing. The important thing to remember for certain aspects of these factions is once the big feuds end, some of these factions could fraction or lose members, or completely retool themselves/fall apart, and we're already seeing that with the likes of Team Taz, and Cody's Nightmare Family, where QT's come in. While less can be more, if it's being done and being directed at certain storylines, I think it's worked to AEW's benefit because it creates not only a big warfare element but can also give way to having a ton of different matches between said factions to build up to the inevitable war clash, for advantages and such. As you also said it also helps for the likes of a Mox, Darby, Archer, etc when they feel more lone wolf. Or when guys can do singles just fine outside of their factions like all of Death Triangle seem to be able to do without much issue. I dont know where Sky/Page is going, but I will say, outside of Nightmare Collective there hasn't been a faction in AEW I've disliked, so if that's the road they go, I'm willing to see where it leads.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 15:16:01 GMT -5
It could very well be the start of a faction tho AEW is running close to having way too many of those as well Eh, to me I agree with those who say factions are a benefit to making AEW stand out and feel fresher. It helps guys get noticed, it helps them develop even If it all lead to my speculated faction which was QT, Sky, Page, Comoroto, Ogogo, Solow. I wouldn't be opposed. As some peeps have said, AEW likes itself some New Japan inspiration, so they like their factions, and I like seeing how they form and change around, even crumble and collapse. We'll see though, if anything else, it shows Page and Sky could help each other out in the company, and in a company with a lot of factions it's at the very least good to have a friend. Oh God QT makes Sky look the Rock. That sounds terrible. I'm working my way through this episode... i'll give you an educated opinion in a few hours...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 15:19:02 GMT -5
That's where I'm at right now. Gonna wait to see how it turns out but boy it's disappointing to see. I really thought they'd do something good with Page right out the gate. I mean Page is undefeated and has been looking better and better as he's wrestled, his match with Fuego last night might've been his best so far, him being a part of a faction doesn't mean he still couldn't be the ace of a faction, and be the one who succeeds out of it, if there was one. It's better than Ethan Page doing nothing, and it'd give Page something to work on while the upper card works through storylines he could then fit into down the line, like challenging Darby and such. Between the Dark guys moving up and the free agents maybe it's time for AEW to let some guys go or hold off signing people for a while. Page and Cage are to notch talent and they debut and then its three weeks of nothing. Thats not the best way to bring someone in. People want them to sign Andrea, where the hell would he fit?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 30, 2021 15:20:13 GMT -5
Eh, to me I agree with those who say factions are a benefit to making AEW stand out and feel fresher. It helps guys get noticed, it helps them develop even If it all lead to my speculated faction which was QT, Sky, Page, Comoroto, Ogogo, Solow. I wouldn't be opposed. As some peeps have said, AEW likes itself some New Japan inspiration, so they like their factions, and I like seeing how they form and change around, even crumble and collapse. We'll see though, if anything else, it shows Page and Sky could help each other out in the company, and in a company with a lot of factions it's at the very least good to have a friend. Oh God QT makes Sky look the Rock. That sounds terrible. I'm working my way through this episode... i'll give you an educated opinion in a few hours... QT's a head trainer and has a brain for the business. he'd be a perfect leader that isn't the top star of the group if it were to happen that way. But again this is all speculation, and I feel like this thread has spun out of control due to speculation lol.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 30, 2021 16:17:18 GMT -5
I think QT as a leader would work out if he were the brains and not the star.
I think there is a wide belief that the leader needs to be the star,which makes sense but I dont think it needs to be always the case
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 16:44:02 GMT -5
No! I love Ethan page and I hate Scorpio sky! Can we just have one singles guy? You said earlier you wouldn't be watching the show, and you're complaining about something you didn't even see. Whyyyy??? Uppitttttyyyy!!! Really though, Sky looked good tonight in his match, and I think him heeling around with Ethan Page can be fun. Tonight on Elevation was the first time I think I "got" Ethan Page since the North. His first appearances in AEW just weren't doing it for me. Out of love and respect I have for you guys. I went back and watched 75 percent of the show (Tuesdays are slow at work.) Maybe its a one off tag match on Dynamite or Elevation. It wasn't awful, but both of them have been tag guys for so long I would hate for them to be paired up, when I think there's more for them to do solo.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 30, 2021 16:45:54 GMT -5
You said earlier you wouldn't be watching the show, and you're complaining about something you didn't even see. Whyyyy??? Uppitttttyyyy!!! Really though, Sky looked good tonight in his match, and I think him heeling around with Ethan Page can be fun. Tonight on Elevation was the first time I think I "got" Ethan Page since the North. His first appearances in AEW just weren't doing it for me. Out of love and respect I have for you guys. I went back and watched 75 percent of the show (Tuesdays are slow at work.) Maybe its a one off tag match on Dynamite or Elevation. It wasn't awful, but both of them have been tag guys for so long I would hate for them to be paired up, when I think there's more for them to do solo. It's appreciated that you like us enough to watch the show or at least most of it I hope you also watched the Chandler Hopkins match cause that guys legit.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Mar 30, 2021 16:52:49 GMT -5
Page and Sky separately are greater than them as a tag team, I feel. Scorpio’s had quite a bit of opportunities as a singles star when I figured the best thing for him would be a permanent team with Kaz while Christopher Daniels moves to a manager. Guy can still talk and definitely does it better than Kaz or Sky on the mic, but maybe they see Kaz as a solo act down the line.
The proposed QT/Comoroto/Agogo/Solow thing I’ve been seeing is gonna get a pass from me, mainly because it feels cobbled together? One week Comoroto started teaming with the Natural Nightmares and just hung around them, which doesn’t even feel fleshed out and more “he’s with them now.” Solow and Big Shotty have been teaming quite a bit and I’d hate to see them split up so QT can pull the wool over Cody’s eyes. Agogo feels like a Taz guy to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 16:53:26 GMT -5
Out of love and respect I have for you guys. I went back and watched 75 percent of the show (Tuesdays are slow at work.) Maybe its a one off tag match on Dynamite or Elevation. It wasn't awful, but both of them have been tag guys for so long I would hate for them to be paired up, when I think there's more for them to do solo. It's appreciated that you like us enough to watch the show or at least most of it I hope you also watched the Chandler Hopkins match cause that guys legit. Hang on... I skipped that one originally cause I have a love / hate relationship with Janella. I currently hate him. I like Joey's and Sonny's matching gear. That was a hell of a swan dive.
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Post by Glitch on Mar 30, 2021 16:53:58 GMT -5
They should have Velvet Sky join, and then call the team Sky's The Limit.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 30, 2021 16:56:50 GMT -5
Scorpio Sky was fine as the third in SCU, but he's got no business leading a stable. Dude is arguably one of the least charismatic guys in AEW. Page deserves way better.
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Post by toodarkmark on Mar 30, 2021 17:18:28 GMT -5
Scorpio Sky was fine as the third in SCU, but he's got no business leading a stable. Dude is arguably one of the least charismatic guys in AEW. Page deserves way better. Did you see the segment?
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 30, 2021 17:45:57 GMT -5
I honestly cant think of someone less fitting to lead a stable,dude has no presence That was my thought as well. Who would possibly follow Scorpio Sky, of all people?
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 30, 2021 17:48:35 GMT -5
Scorpio Sky was fine as the third in SCU, but he's got no business leading a stable. Dude is arguably one of the least charismatic guys in AEW. Page deserves way better. Did you see the segment? Yes, I watched all of Elevation. No interest in Sky leading a stable or getting into another tag team, whatever that nod was supposed to be. Page deserves a shot as a singles and I have no interest in Scorpio Sky, the last time he was remotely entertaining to me was his match with Jericho. I think AEW's added tons of other talent since then that have surpassed him. I actually thought it did more for Mike Sydal in my eyes than Scorpio. Just my two cents. If they workshop it on Dark and I'm proven wrong, so be it, but I don't think it helps Page to be aligned with Scorpio, who seems to be one of the few folks in the company that doesn't click with a good portion of their audience based on what I'm seeing on social.
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