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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jun 28, 2021 13:53:58 GMT -5
...but it actually made me think a lot about the concept of reality. that's exactly what a decoy would think about after watching that episode!
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Jul 5, 2021 16:38:54 GMT -5
this episode didn't go in the direction I was expecting. I liked it.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Jul 5, 2021 17:30:29 GMT -5
Doing the whole Captain Planet turns full eco terrorist angle. We've seen it. Collegehumor, Robot Chicken... How many more people are you going to rip off, Harmon?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2021 20:16:04 GMT -5
Doing the whole Captain Planet turns full eco terrorist angle. We've seen it. Collegehumor, Robot Chicken... How many more people are you going to rip off, Harmon? I haven't seen it because I don't think Collegehumor or Robot Chicken are funny. If you don't like Dan Harmon and think he's a hack or something, that's fine, but why are you watching the show?
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Jul 5, 2021 20:19:55 GMT -5
I didn't say I didn't like him. I just didn't like this episode because the A-plot was unoriginal.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 6, 2021 10:34:06 GMT -5
I feel like this season is a lot like last season, in a bad way. I liked the season premiere, but even that didn't seem as funny as previous seasons. I feel like a lot of shows hit a wall after season 3. Even Community, which I loved and think is Harmon's better work, hit the same wall. After he returned for seasons 5 and 6, the show still had it's moments but never got the magic back. Rick and Morty seems the same way. Still fun stories episode to episode, but not quite as good and nowhere near as funny.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2021 11:00:45 GMT -5
I feel like this season is a lot like last season, in a bad way. I liked the season premiere, but even that didn't seem as funny as previous seasons. I feel like a lot of shows hit a wall after season 3. Even Community, which I loved and think is Harmon's better work, hit the same wall. After he returned for seasons 5 and 6, the show still had it's moments but never got the magic back. Rick and Morty seems the same way. Still fun stories episode to episode, but not quite as good and nowhere near as funny. It seems like they have hit a creative wall. Kind of goes back to the original arguments of story vs comical and they haven’t found that center that works. Fans would not complain if you did something like a whole season and the end reveal was this was Evil Morty origin story You can still have the crazy Rick and Morty style adventures but it feels like they are just doing crazy shit and seeing what sticks as opposed to the crazy shit they did before was fresh and so outlandish enough that it worked Add on that resetting the status quo each season is meh. You can’t end this season again on how much of a dick Rick is without lasting consequences
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Post by sfvega on Jul 6, 2021 11:19:58 GMT -5
I feel like this season is a lot like last season, in a bad way. I liked the season premiere, but even that didn't seem as funny as previous seasons. I feel like a lot of shows hit a wall after season 3. Even Community, which I loved and think is Harmon's better work, hit the same wall. After he returned for seasons 5 and 6, the show still had it's moments but never got the magic back. Rick and Morty seems the same way. Still fun stories episode to episode, but not quite as good and nowhere near as funny. It seems like they have hit a creative wall. Kind of goes back to the original arguments of story vs comical and they haven’t found that center that works. Fans would not complain if you did something like a whole season and the end reveal was this was Evil Morty origin story You can still have the crazy Rick and Morty style adventures but it feels like they are just doing crazy shit and seeing what sticks as opposed to the crazy shit they did before was fresh and so outlandish enough that it worked Add on that resetting the status quo each season is meh. You can’t end this season again on how much of a dick Rick is without lasting consequences Exactly. Shows like The Office aged the same way; where it seemed like characters got a little more wacky and seemed like they were written how the fans would write them instead of the nuanced and spot-on way these same writers used to. Rick was so biting, even at times last season. But it's few and far between these days and it seems more like a caricature than a character now. Homer Simpson went the same way...
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2021 11:25:53 GMT -5
It seems like they have hit a creative wall. Kind of goes back to the original arguments of story vs comical and they haven’t found that center that works. Fans would not complain if you did something like a whole season and the end reveal was this was Evil Morty origin story You can still have the crazy Rick and Morty style adventures but it feels like they are just doing crazy shit and seeing what sticks as opposed to the crazy shit they did before was fresh and so outlandish enough that it worked Add on that resetting the status quo each season is meh. You can’t end this season again on how much of a dick Rick is without lasting consequences Exactly. Shows like The Office aged the same way; where it seemed like characters got a little more wacky and seemed like they were written how the fans would write them instead of the nuanced and spot-on way these same writers used to. Rick was so biting, even at times last season. But it's few and far between these days and it seems more like a caricature than a character now. Homer Simpson went the same way... It's the fine line of comedy and being a jerk Rick will always a jerk but you found comedy in what he did. Last season just made him a real petty asshole, going damn near full jerkass Homer. Same thing happened to Stan Smith on American Dad as well Shit like Pickle Rick worked because Rick is a mad genius and the episode was over the top but you got the moment at the end with therapy which was the key to this whole thing working. But then you got things where Rick is being super petty about Morty writing a heist script and created a whole scenario where he made him be the reason he cancelled his own idea It's fine to go random because you can in a show like this but you have to bring it back to center which is what they did first 3 seasons and have failed to do since. Still like the show but it's not on the same level it was
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Post by sfvega on Jul 6, 2021 11:53:11 GMT -5
Exactly. Shows like The Office aged the same way; where it seemed like characters got a little more wacky and seemed like they were written how the fans would write them instead of the nuanced and spot-on way these same writers used to. Rick was so biting, even at times last season. But it's few and far between these days and it seems more like a caricature than a character now. Homer Simpson went the same way... It's the fine line of comedy and being a jerk Rick will always a jerk but you found comedy in what he did. Last season just made him a real petty asshole, going damn near full jerkass Homer. Same thing happened to Stan Smith on American Dad as well Shit like Pickle Rick worked because Rick is a mad genius and the episode was over the top but you got the moment at the end with therapy which was the key to this whole thing working. But then you got things where Rick is being super petty about Morty writing a heist script and created a whole scenario where he made him be the reason he cancelled his own idea It's fine to go random because you can in a show like this but you have to bring it back to center which is what they did first 3 seasons and have failed to do since. Still like the show but it's not on the same level it was Yeah, I feel like one of the only things Harmon struggles with is long-term story arcs. He's great at personal development showing the growth of Morty or how fed up the family is getting with Rick over the years, but not with any type of closure until he's painted into a corner. He handled the end of Community or Donald Glover leaving really well, but only when those things happened outside of the show. Which makes sense with how much of a manchild Harmon has always painted himself as. The big change only happens when he can't get out of it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2021 12:00:23 GMT -5
It's the fine line of comedy and being a jerk Rick will always a jerk but you found comedy in what he did. Last season just made him a real petty asshole, going damn near full jerkass Homer. Same thing happened to Stan Smith on American Dad as well Shit like Pickle Rick worked because Rick is a mad genius and the episode was over the top but you got the moment at the end with therapy which was the key to this whole thing working. But then you got things where Rick is being super petty about Morty writing a heist script and created a whole scenario where he made him be the reason he cancelled his own idea It's fine to go random because you can in a show like this but you have to bring it back to center which is what they did first 3 seasons and have failed to do since. Still like the show but it's not on the same level it was Yeah, I feel like one of the only things Harmon struggles with is long-term story arcs. He's great at personal development showing the growth of Morty or how fed up the family is getting with Rick over the years, but not with any type of closure until he's painted into a corner. He handled the end of Community or Donald Glover leaving really well, but only when those things happened outside of the show. Which makes sense with how much of a manchild Harmon has always painted himself as. The big change only happens when he can't get out of it. Which is why I think he def needs to Roiland a little more. Harmon wants shit to be perfect and I get it as a perfectionist myself but can you imagine the filler if Harmon actually got what he wanted and have more than 10 episodes for Season 4 The show still has a ton of untapped potential and the situation def got more bigger than they intended with some of the theories but you can feed into that. Evil Morty origins. Is Rick a future version of Morty? Where the hell was Rick for the 15-20 years he was gone? Structure the story inbetween the craziness and randomness otherwise it's just going to be a mess with no destination
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 13:28:55 GMT -5
I didn't say I didn't like him. I just didn't like this episode because the A-plot was unoriginal. It was the way you said "How many people are you gonna rip off" that made it sound like you're a hater looking for an excuse. If you're just being a critical fan, then I apologize for being dickish.
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Post by dreidemy on Sept 8, 2021 1:02:28 GMT -5
Holy Shit
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 8, 2021 1:33:07 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}You know, I've been critical of Rick and Morty sometimes, but that finale did bring something interesting to things again. It is executed well enough that part of me wonders if they Cartman'd Rick on purpose past a certain point, just due to how well the payoff is to him being this loser who has crafted his own universe to be his personal ego trip, returning to the Pickle Rick therapy session in a way in that you see this character is so big and so very, very small.
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