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Post by cfbsicko on Apr 12, 2021 22:50:51 GMT -5
With the way medical technology has progressed, wrestlers nowadays can "go" forever it seems. Thereby creating a logjam of talent in the WWE that even with a 3 hour RAW, they can't manage to find enough airtime for anybody. I think Vince can somewhat be relieved that he doesn't have to be feel obligated to pay Big Show or Y2J and they don't have to be frustrated with WWE creative.
Vince strikes me as the kind of guy who has a hard time saying no if someone was loyal to him. So I think with Chris Jericho appearing on the Smoking Skull Sessions podcast, it acknowledges that fact in a sense that they don't view AEW as the enemy. I think Vince appreciates that he gets to feature his younger talent while some of his former talent Ryder, Jericho, and Big Show still get featured in a prominent feature.
What say you? I think the difference here is that Tony Khan is a billion himself who owns an NFL franchise. I also think corporate culture has changed a little bit since 1998. But it's great to see peace, no matter the circumstance. I don't personally watch AEW, but I'm glad Jericho and the older dudes have a place to get paid and stay on good terms with WWE.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Apr 12, 2021 22:52:02 GMT -5
I hope they work with each other within the next 5 years. Let AEW get big enough than have a joint PPV.
Riddle vs. Darby would be an interesting match to open the show.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 12, 2021 22:56:49 GMT -5
I think it's a complicated situation. We've seen them pull antagonistic behavior towards them, like doing a tweet poll about "Best Spinebusters" and leaving Arn off, as if that wasn't going to be immediately clear what their agenda was. Could be Jericho was someone Austin wanted, could be that WWE just respect Jericho did so much with them, or yeah, it could be some desire to acknowledge AEW for whatever reason, but I've got my doubts. I do think that WWE respects this "pissant company" as something they can't ignore, good or bad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 23:13:52 GMT -5
I don't know if appreciation is the right word, but Vince knows what battles are easily winnable and what one aren't.
In the end, AEW's ratings don't touch RAW or Smackdown by last check. And I'm an AEW fan who hasn't watched WWE in forever. It's just that they're a boutique car manufacturer going up against the General Motors of professional wrestling.
In the end, I think they're going after a different fanbase. Yeah, moving NXT to Wednesday was a pretty petty move, but NXT was never really a priority for Vince and Co.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 23:14:03 GMT -5
Jericho's a dickhead, but WWE needs him a hell of a lot more than he needs them. They probably want him back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 23:34:15 GMT -5
Two legends and a brand new streaming deal. Vince wasn’t going to say no.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 13, 2021 0:15:46 GMT -5
Jericho's a dickhead, but WWE needs him a hell of a lot more than he needs them. They probably want him back. Does the WWE really need Jericho though?
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 13, 2021 1:24:23 GMT -5
He's probably realised that he'll be signing a lot of those wrestlers some day and won't have to pay to train them.
Sooner or later there'll be more people frustrated in aew* and wanting to jump ship, not seeing WWE a hostile destination will help.
*Not always through any fault, just can't push everyone.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 13, 2021 3:42:23 GMT -5
He's probably realised that he'll be signing a lot of those wrestlers some day and won't have to pay to train them. Sooner or later there'll be more people frustrated in aew* and wanting to jump ship, not seeing WWE a hostile destination will help. *Not always through any fault, just can't push everyone. Maybe down the road this'll be true, but considering what has been said about AEW's work enviroment, especially in comparison to WWE's, I don't think anything WWE could do could make them not be seen as a hostile destination to wrestlers. They have more than made their bed. Doesn't mean wrestlers won't evetually go there for the money/opportunity, but they definitely won't be kidding themselves.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 13, 2021 4:53:31 GMT -5
Jericho's a dickhead, but WWE needs him a hell of a lot more than he needs them. They probably want him back. Does the WWE really need Jericho though? Right. Do I think WWE would want him? Sure. But I definitely wouldn't classify that as a need.
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Post by the2ndevil on Apr 13, 2021 5:41:15 GMT -5
The only people acting like there’s a “war” between the companies are the fans.
On Twitter, I’ve seen wrestlers signed to both companies compliment the other’s product more than once.
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Post by paywindah on Apr 13, 2021 6:16:22 GMT -5
Jericho's a dickhead, but WWE needs him a hell of a lot more than he needs them. They probably want him back. Neither needs each other. If anything AEW needs to keep Jericho more because he’s one of their only stars that non-wrestling nerds might actually know.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 13, 2021 6:16:37 GMT -5
I feel there's a large difference between hostile and friendly competition. I think AEW/WWE is more friendly.
Vince was directly threatened by WCW and took it personally when a lot of his talent was poached. Vince and the WWE was in a lot of financial danger. TNA said a bunch of stupid shit about the WWE right away and was trying to pick a fight for years, like a chihuahua on coccaine barking at a hibernating grizzly bear.
Vince right now is flush with money. AEW isn't poaching talent by tossing money he can't afford to match/exceed. Consuming Wrestling has changed so much. Back in the WCW days people needed to screw around with VCR's or have two TV's to watch both. Today? You can consume all the WWE and AEW you want and it won't hurt either one.
It's a different world. And I honestly think we might start seeing a little more flow back and forth between the companies. No I don't think you'll see shared PPV's or shit like that. But you won't see hostility unless one decides to randomly go scorched earth. There's a lot of room between them for many positive things.
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Post by adamclark52 on Apr 13, 2021 6:56:32 GMT -5
Vince will NEVER work with AEW.
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Post by celtics543 on Apr 13, 2021 7:15:33 GMT -5
Vince will NEVER work with AEW. Vince worked with ECW. I think he sees this as a better funded version of ECW. Almost like the old territory days. If he has nothing for someone to do they can go there and then maybe come back. Imagine how incredible it would be if WWE joined this interpromotional thing AEW has going on with New Japan and TNA? Just one week Omega is in the ring withe Good Brothers and Bucks when all of sudden the lights go down and you hear "SIERRA, HOTEL, INDIA, ECHO, LIMA, DELTA, SHIELD" and out comes Mox with Reigns and Rollins as backup.
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Post by thechase on Apr 13, 2021 7:21:04 GMT -5
Vince will NEVER work with AEW. Chris Jericho: Exists
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 13, 2021 7:31:32 GMT -5
Vince will NEVER work with AEW. People have short memories. They put NXT on Wednesdays to limit AEW's growth, they established a UK brand because they were afraid of WOS and smothered the British wrestling scene. They've got sights set in doing the same in Japan and Mexico... Vince doesn't want to co-operate with anyone unless the deal mainly benefits him, he wants to dominate wrestling completely and run the WWE with a cradle to grave system for talent, with stars trained by, and having their entire careers owned by Vince. He didn't change overnight because of Jericho, his appearance generated buzz for a WWE show and it really only benefits them and Jericho. There's no quid pro quo, the WWE aren't going to let Randy Orton appear on AEW unrestricted. The WWE got something out of it, and any benefit AEW got is negligible, so of course Vince is fine with it. Jericho's appearance was the WWE taking advantage of another company letting their independent contractors be independent contractors in a way the WWE will never do.
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Post by Legion on Apr 13, 2021 8:31:52 GMT -5
He's probably realised that he'll be signing a lot of those wrestlers some day and won't have to pay to train them. Sooner or later there'll be more people frustrated in aew* and wanting to jump ship, not seeing WWE a hostile destination will help. *Not always through any fault, just can't push everyone. I think this is a part of it, but I also think alongside that is the fact that a lot of the 'younger' or indie talent are all friends or in relationships with each other. When the companies aren't actively at war with each other because neither side is antagonising the other for any real reason, there is no need for animosity. This isn't, at least yet, a Bischoff wanting to put people out of business moment or Ted Turner calling Vince to poke the bear moment. As long as Vince and Tony dont make it personal, I think there is a good place for both of them to coexist without being directly competitive, and it gives workers choices - either to be more creative for less cash, or take the cash and the direction to make money while you can.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 13, 2021 8:37:12 GMT -5
WWE is Disney and AEW is A24. WWE's looking to be an entertainment conglomerate, AEW is looking to make a few hits but without totally losing its independent creative spirit. They're not really competitive.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 13, 2021 8:38:37 GMT -5
With the way medical technology has progressed, wrestlers nowadays can "go" forever it seems. Thereby creating a logjam of talent in the WWE that even with a 3 hour RAW, they can't manage to find enough airtime for anybody. I think Vince can somewhat be relieved that he doesn't have to be feel obligated to pay Big Show or Y2J and they don't have to be frustrated with WWE creative. Vince strikes me as the kind of guy who has a hard time saying no if someone was loyal to him. So I think with Chris Jericho appearing on the Smoking Skull Sessions podcast, it acknowledges that fact in a sense that they don't view AEW as the enemy. I think Vince appreciates that he gets to feature his younger talent while some of his former talent Ryder, Jericho, and Big Show still get featured in a prominent feature. What say you? I think the difference here is that Tony Khan is a billion himself who owns an NFL franchise. I also think corporate culture has changed a little bit since 1998. But it's great to see peace, no matter the circumstance. I don't personally watch AEW, but I'm glad Jericho and the older dudes have a place to get paid and stay on good terms with WWE. Someone we do not speak of said this much weeks ago when the SSS episode was announced. Only he added that Vince "unloading" the guys he doesn't want anymore is also a means to get Khan to spend money for nothing.
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