agent817
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Post by agent817 on Apr 19, 2021 22:51:41 GMT -5
We have seen various match types implemented in wrestling video games. But this came to mind when my friend and I discussed this. The closest we have seen something like this was the Team Elimination Chamber matches in the Smackdown vs. Raw games (not sure if they were included in the early-2010s games like WWE '12 and '13 before moving to 2K).
So I thought that in order for this to work is that there would be a new map done for the arena as there would be two rings and then have the long cage. As for the setup, well, I have played through Royal Rumble mode many times where my character was in the number 30 spot and I had to wait before I enter. Of course, for this you could have the whole thing go with two people starting off and the match won't end until you have all participants in the match. Because it's always said that the match doesn't officially begin until all members for each team are in it.
Slightly off-topic, but sometimes I wonder if in WCW/nWo Revenge that the reason there was no Fall Brawl arena or even a World War 3 arena was because both PPVs had multiple rings but it could have been done by just having the one ring and do the rest of the layout.
So what do you think? Could this match type work in a video game?
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Post by chazraps on Apr 19, 2021 22:53:43 GMT -5
I think it could. At the end of the day, it's a submission only match decided in a cage that just happens to have 8-10 people entering in Royal Rumble-style intervals and two rings, right?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 20, 2021 4:59:32 GMT -5
I think it could. At the end of the day, it's a submission only match decided in a cage that just happens to have 8-10 people entering in Royal Rumble-style intervals and two rings, right? Yeah, the only weird thing might be the two rings, but like Elimination Chamber just make it have to take place at the War Games Arena.(or limit it to the one ring depending on coding limitations) Just code it similar to the Royal Rumble, and have some kinda limiter on the finish until everyone is in. The only potential problem I could see is that by the time everyone is in the starters might basically ready to tap immediately.
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Post by Bad Moon on Apr 20, 2021 5:13:01 GMT -5
The biggest problem I see with the format is that if you're playing multiplayer most of the people in the match are gonna have to sit on their asses and wait until they get to do play. And if you're playing single player, are you only controlling your team's first guy in or can you switch control to another team member as more come in?
Oh, and when a new wrestler enters the match they should have like a 30 second invincibility buff like when you get a hot tag in a tag-team match in the old SvR games.
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Post by agent817 on Apr 20, 2021 14:26:40 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, should it be 4-on-4, or 3-on-3? Not sure how many multiplayer slots there are in the most recent games, but I remember how in SvR 2007 when doing GM mode and going into Survivor Series, the elimination tag team match was 3-on-3, not 4-on-4 or 5-on-5. Granted, it was still on the PS2 and there were limitations on the coding, but how many players can it go up to these days?
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Post by fw91 on Apr 20, 2021 15:31:59 GMT -5
It would be frustrating with the artificial intelligence. And the match would probably end right he after the last guy enters
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Post by Cyno on Apr 20, 2021 15:39:25 GMT -5
It could theoretically work in a video game. But no way in hell does it work in WWE2K.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 15:49:03 GMT -5
It absolutely could. All they have to do is apply those rules to a single ring with HIAC as the cage. In fact, they did that in story mode one year.
The reason it isn't in is because the makers of WWE2k are lazy and don't put much effort into fun gameplay.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Apr 20, 2021 16:05:29 GMT -5
It absolutely could. All they have to do is apply those rules to a single ring with HIAC as the cage. In fact, they did that in story mode one year. The reason it isn't in is because the makers of WWE2k are lazy and don't put much effort into fun gameplay. I wouldn't call them lazy, they were overworked and had zero time to work on the baseline mechanics of the game because of the ridiculous turnaround. Because it's an annual title, they had to keep adding features to a 20 year old engine and hope that everything worked
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 16:07:21 GMT -5
It absolutely could. All they have to do is apply those rules to a single ring with HIAC as the cage. In fact, they did that in story mode one year. The reason it isn't in is because the makers of WWE2k are lazy and don't put much effort into fun gameplay. I wouldn't call them lazy, they were overworked and had zero time to work on the baseline mechanics of the game because of the ridiculous turnaround. Because it's an annual title, they had to keep adding features to a 20 year old engine and hope that everything worked Churning out the same game every year for 20 years is the epitome of lazy.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 20, 2021 16:50:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't call them lazy, they were overworked and had zero time to work on the baseline mechanics of the game because of the ridiculous turnaround. Because it's an annual title, they had to keep adding features to a 20 year old engine and hope that everything worked Churning out the same game every year for 20 years is the epitome of lazy. Blame lies with Take Two Interactive and WWE itself for their ridiculous expectations, not the developers making the game.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Apr 20, 2021 18:31:13 GMT -5
MDickie could probably get it working on his lonesome.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Apr 20, 2021 20:11:57 GMT -5
I wouldn't call them lazy, they were overworked and had zero time to work on the baseline mechanics of the game because of the ridiculous turnaround. Because it's an annual title, they had to keep adding features to a 20 year old engine and hope that everything worked Churning out the same game every year for 20 years is the epitome of lazy. Yukes got dropped for trying to do this, but keep blaming the labor and not the money.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Apr 20, 2021 20:20:54 GMT -5
Of course it could. I'm a pretty casual gamer who doesn't play online but if I did I think I would have long since demanded this.
Recent wrestling games have incorporated all sorts of gimmicky bullshit I don't care about and don't want to deal with but they can't manage a War Games match?
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Post by mc74 on Apr 20, 2021 20:26:54 GMT -5
It absolutely could. All they have to do is apply those rules to a single ring with HIAC as the cage. In fact, they did that in story mode one year. The reason it isn't in is because the makers of WWE2k are lazy and don't put much effort into fun gameplay. Yup, they did that in WWE '12. The match had similar rules where wrestlers would enter in at different intervals, except that it was an elimination-style match, whereas the actual WarGames match kicked off when all competitors were in the ring.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 20, 2021 20:27:55 GMT -5
I think it could. At the end of the day, it's a submission only match decided in a cage that just happens to have 8-10 people entering in Royal Rumble-style intervals and two rings, right? Yeah, the only weird thing might be the two rings, but like Elimination Chamber just make it have to take place at the War Games Arena.(or limit it to the one ring depending on coding limitations) Just code it similar to the Royal Rumble, and have some kinda limiter on the finish until everyone is in. The only potential problem I could see is that by the time everyone is in the starters might basically ready to tap immediately.That’s kind of the psychology of the whole match though. The guys that have been there since the beginning should be on the brink when The Match Beyond starts. Your strategy should involve picking someone who can take the beating to enter first.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 20, 2021 20:29:45 GMT -5
Yeah, the only weird thing might be the two rings, but like Elimination Chamber just make it have to take place at the War Games Arena.(or limit it to the one ring depending on coding limitations) Just code it similar to the Royal Rumble, and have some kinda limiter on the finish until everyone is in. The only potential problem I could see is that by the time everyone is in the starters might basically ready to tap immediately.That’s kind of the psychology of the whole match though. The guys that have been there since the beginning should be on the brink when The Match Beyond starts. Your strategy should involve picking someone who can take the beating to enter first. I know that but I mean in terms of actually playing it might just end quickly which might not be fun to play if not implemented correctly.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 22, 2021 13:49:10 GMT -5
I would think it in theory possible. With the newer generations of consoles being able to do much more than they could years ago. The biggest thing that hopefully fixed lets say WWE games have for so many years been the same engine and so many just trying to add a fresh layer of paint on what they had the year before and now got lazy and rushed things. I hope the new WWE game since they took that year off really spend the time to really get it right and add the elements. Its amazing to think the first Smackdown game on PS2 had 8 on a screen and never after that. Yes limited stuff but you can't tell me PS3 and PS4 or Xbox 360 or Xbox One games couldn't have done and done it sooner. When Technology becomes more advance and other games get more things.
I'm surprised games like Firepro didn't have it since it spends more time on what the game can do and not how graphics look. Be interesting to see what the AEW games has. With a new generation of Game consoles out now, you think they could do it even better. Its a matter of developers using different engines and stop recycling the same thing over and over.
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