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Post by eJm on May 2, 2021 6:23:46 GMT -5
Rovert the guy that broke Mox not working All Out. Said his sources say “this is laughable and completely untrue” But also said a half hour earlier that SEScoops trust their source and there’s been month long negotiations. Does this guy just play both sides and hopes nobody notices then he can brag later when he’s right? Honestly, it's the main problem I've had with this story so far. If you've noticed with recent stories like this, you'd have someone like Meltzer or SRS or even PWInsider say something and the others would eventually confirm the story after discussing with their sources. Take the Mickie James aftermath where you had everyone confirming and re-confirming certain aspects about who got fired (or re-hired to their position in terms of what happened with John Cone) and you at least got the jist of the story. With this, we've had SEScoops say the story and nobody else has said anything. Like, I'm not even saying it couldn't be the case at all, it could, but it feels really flimsy right now.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 6:33:17 GMT -5
Rovert the guy that broke Mox not working All Out. Said his sources say “this is laughable and completely untrue” But also said a half hour earlier that SEScoops trust their source and there’s been month long negotiations. Does this guy just play both sides and hopes nobody notices then he can brag later when he’s right? Honestly, it's the main problem I've had with this story so far. If you've noticed with recent stories like this, you'd have someone like Meltzer or SRS or even PWInsider say something and the others would eventually confirm the story after discussing with their sources. Take the Mickie James aftermath where you had everyone confirming and re-confirming certain aspects about who got fired (or re-hired to their position in terms of what happened with John Cone) and you at least got the jist of the story. With this, we've had SEScoops say the story and nobody else has said anything. Like, I'm not even saying it couldn't be the case at all, it could, but it feels really flimsy right now. Same thing with the MLW / WWE talks.. Someone reports it then someone says a day later “no current talks are ongoing.” So like a lot of newz, it’s a part of the fandom that’s kinda cool but you have to take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 2, 2021 14:30:43 GMT -5
Daga is really close to the Lucha Bros so I could see them pushing for him.to be signed.
Tessa? I would think she is still a bit too risky, but she wouldn't have the pull in AEW.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 2, 2021 14:43:53 GMT -5
Daga is really close to the Lucha Bros so I could see them pushing for him.to be signed. Tessa? I would think she is still a bit too risky, but she wouldn't have the pull in AEW. I'm not against companies giving "problem child" wrestlers a shot, but you let them know they're on a short leash from Day One, and maybe you even have an agent in regular contact with them to touch base on how things are going and help keep them on the path. And if a talent doesn't want to agree to those terms, then they can try going somewhere else and you move on.
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Post by AEW19 on May 2, 2021 15:57:03 GMT -5
The only thing I can compare this to, would be football. An agent puts out a fake story to the press that certain clubs are after their player, this will alert other clubs to the situation to bid for the player. I think someone on twitter said that WWE were teasing a debut so I wouldn't be surprised if this has been put out to try and create some sort of "where will she end up" hype between the two companies.
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Post by Cieto on May 2, 2021 16:58:00 GMT -5
Honestly not seen enough of Daga to comment, but AEW doesn't really need tessa.
Allegations aside, the womens roster is thriving at the moment and they've already had a prime example recently that talent means nothing if you haven't got (or ever had) the right attitude.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 17:03:32 GMT -5
Best place for Tessa would be WWE/NXT as it would be clear from day one that she is very much disposable with many women wrestlers ahead of her in the pecking order until she proves herself and she can either sink or swim attitude/maturity wise.
Anywhere else, even AEW and shes going to walk in expecting to go straight to the top of the card.
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Post by Blade on May 2, 2021 17:16:15 GMT -5
Cancel culture would eliminate most of roster and fans sitting in the stands. I find it interesting that you conclude most of the AEW roster and fans have committed acts comparable to Tessa Blanchard, who was outed and confirmed to have been a racist (and a bully). Like, that's a pretty strong statement to make and I'm pretty sure you don't have much evidence to back it up. What Tessa Blanchard did was not some minor faux pas. I am in fact all in favour for people finding redemption, but they have to redeem themselves first. Why on earth should fans be enthusiastic about someone returning who has shown no public signs of learning from or growing from the sort of person she was less than two years ago? If she really has changed so much, should not other wrestlers be vouching for how she's been trying to make amends and realised why and how what she did was wrong? You can pretend it's "cancel culture" or somehow novel to be reluctant to support a seriously shitty person, but it isn't. If you let someone stay at your house and they stole money off your dresser, I rather doubt you'd let them come over again six months later on a completely faith-based assessment of "Well, maybe they've changed!" You'd want some sort of actual evidence first at the very least, and that's what most people in this thread have been asking for.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 2, 2021 19:10:43 GMT -5
Also even if she wasn't a racist shitbag Tessa got the biggest rub of any woman in company history and then refused to show up to work even remotely.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 2, 2021 19:45:45 GMT -5
Also even if she wasn't a racist shitbag Tessa got the biggest rub of any woman in company history and then refused to show up to work even remotely. Something I think she regrets now considering what Impact is doing. She could have had that Omega Match, that could have been HUGE. But she decided to bump chests with them about money and thought she was above them. Impact's now doing the best buyrates since Spike TV, and the best ratings, and they're as relevant as they've ever been, and she's been sitting on her ass since. Shit's pretty ironic honestly.
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Post by Cyno on May 2, 2021 20:24:16 GMT -5
I think people are focusing so much on the racist shit as for why she should be hired or not while not also bringing up her blatant unprofessionalism. Like she could own up to the racist stuff completely and commit herself to becoming anti-racist and it still would be a poor idea to hire her. Like, the racism is just the cherry on top of all the other reasons why AEW shouldn't take a chance on her at this point. She'd have to prove she can actually act like a mature adult in a professional setting, especially if it's for a major promotion.
After all, Impact didn't part ways with her because she had incidents of racism (in spite of Impact having a lot of Black and brown people on the roster). They parted ways because while she was in Mexico last year, she refused to even entertain trying to get back to the US, didn't drop the championship if she couldn't get back, and essentially held their world championship hostage.
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Post by Glitch on May 2, 2021 21:31:34 GMT -5
There's already enough girls that need to be featured more often. I don't see any up side to bring her in. I chalk this up to just plain old rumors.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 2, 2021 23:13:10 GMT -5
Other issue with bringing Tessa in: Tully is already there. I could see him causing issues as well if he feels Tessa isn't getting what he thinks she deserves.
Tully is just as difficult to deal with as his daughter is, at times.
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Post by dpg on May 3, 2021 2:55:25 GMT -5
Also even if she wasn't a racist shitbag Tessa got the biggest rub of any woman in company history and then refused to show up to work even remotely. Yup. Even apart from the other allegations, she was given a huge push, biggest Impact has done in years, then walked out during contract negotiations with the belt while refusing to cooperate.
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Post by sunnytaker on May 3, 2021 8:03:28 GMT -5
hey how about tessa gets signed then they do an angle where tully shows interest in supporting one of the younger talents to join Pineapple, i mean pinnacle, and tessa gets upset with him for turning his back on her by not picking her and then the younger talent gets pregnant and the storyline is dropped!
now if i could lance storm for a moment. what is her and tully's relationship? maybe AEW thinks her father could keep her in line is said rumors are accurate about her signing?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 3, 2021 8:21:09 GMT -5
hey how about tessa gets signed then they do an angle where tully shows interest in supporting one of the younger talents to join Pineapple, i mean pinnacle, and tessa gets upset with him for turning his back on her by not picking her and then the younger talent gets pregnant and the storyline is dropped!now if i could lance storm for a moment. what is her and tully's relationship? maybe AEW thinks her father could keep her in line is said rumors are accurate about her signing? I thought they were estranged.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 3, 2021 8:28:26 GMT -5
She was going to get another chance just a matter of where but with the way she reportedly flamed out in WWE with the Mae Young Classic and her recent stupidity with Impact, all I can say is you reap what you sow f***ing with her
The racist shit she said she not be swept under the rug. Not only did shit not even apologize, she used it to say people are hating on her and then tried to say she forgives herself or some BS. None of that is accountability whatsoever. Impact still stuck by her tho and kept the World title on her despite that. They finally had enough when she was unprofessional and tried to hold up the title. Not only are you an asshole with possible racist tendencies, you are also unprofessional so I can see why people would be weary working with her
No leash is short enough for her but her talent will get her a job until she flames out like Aries and Low Ko
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 11:11:55 GMT -5
Cancel culture would eliminate most of roster and fans sitting in the stands. I find it interesting that you conclude most of the AEW roster and fans have committed acts comparable to Tessa Blanchard, who was outed and confirmed to have been a racist (and a bully). Like, that's a pretty strong statement to make and I'm pretty sure you don't have much evidence to back it up. What Tessa Blanchard did was not some minor faux pas. I am in fact all in favour for people finding redemption, but they have to redeem themselves first. Why on earth should fans be enthusiastic about someone returning who has shown no public signs of learning from or growing from the sort of person she was less than two years ago? If she really has changed so much, should not other wrestlers be vouching for how she's been trying to make amends and realised why and how what she did was wrong? You can pretend it's "cancel culture" or somehow novel to be reluctant to support a seriously shitty person, but it isn't. If you let someone stay at your house and they stole money off your dresser, I rather doubt you'd let them come over again six months later on a completely faith-based assessment of "Well, maybe they've changed!" You'd want some sort of actual evidence first at the very least, and that's what most people in this thread have been asking for. At risk of towing the line into politics, some people really, really need to learn the difference between "cancel culture" and accountability. Having a history of being a terrible employee to wrestling companies, with a lot of out-of-the-ring baggage to boot is a perfectly reasonable basis to not hire somebody to work for a wrestling company.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 3, 2021 12:00:55 GMT -5
hey how about tessa gets signed then they do an angle where tully shows interest in supporting one of the younger talents to join Pineapple, i mean pinnacle, and tessa gets upset with him for turning his back on her by not picking her and then the younger talent gets pregnant and the storyline is dropped!now if i could lance storm for a moment. what is her and tully's relationship? maybe AEW thinks her father could keep her in line is said rumors are accurate about her signing? I thought they were estranged. Unless they had another falling out, they had a good enough relationship for Tully to show up to support her when she fended with Gail Kim. I get the impression though that Tully wants Tessa to carve her own path as if I remember correctly Magnum was the one that encouraged her to hold out for more money... while she was the highest paid talent in Impact
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Post by anglarite on May 3, 2021 13:00:28 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm not very good at this
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