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Post by unc40 on May 16, 2021 16:06:56 GMT -5
38 people did not stand around and watch Kitty Genovese get murdered in fact the whole scenario doesn't even make sense. The reporter who wrote the story admitted he had made up facts and even family members of Kitty has said in interviews that people came out to help but people still believe it is fact.
Stories involving Ty Cobb and his racism. Buck O'Neil has even said that Cobb wasn't a racist but lets not take his word for it let's take the word of a writer with very little credibility named Al Stump.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 16:55:03 GMT -5
No, Clara Bow didn't blow the whole USC football team.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on May 16, 2021 17:05:07 GMT -5
Two halves of a worm will not turn into two new worms if you cut in in half, you're just subjecting it to a horrible death.
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Post by sabretooth on May 16, 2021 17:07:09 GMT -5
My Momma says I'm handsome.
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Post by thirteen3 on May 16, 2021 17:09:57 GMT -5
Porn had nothing to do with VHS being the dominant home video format over Betamax.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on May 16, 2021 17:12:00 GMT -5
Nobody in Christopher Columbus’s time believed the world was flat. Everybody knew the world was round: the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and other ancient civilizations had already figured this out by studying astronomy and following the curvature of the stars.
People just (quite reasonably) believed he was a death-wish having idiot who had no way of knowing how big the Atlantic Ocean was if he sailed westward to try to get to Asia, and very likely could’ve just sailed out into an endless ocean until he and his crew starved to death. The fact that he bumped into the Americas was sheer dumb luck.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 16, 2021 17:48:23 GMT -5
One of the tactics the British used to get people to move to the future United States was not collecting taxes. Initially, this was a reasonable deal as the transatlantic crossing and life in the colonies were both highly dangerous undertakings.
After the French and Indian War drove the crown to the point of insolvency, they decided it was only fair to ask the Americans to start paying their share as the Brits had just spent a f***ing fortune defending them against a foreign power to secure their foothold in North America, and the colonies had developed enough that just being born there was no longer any more dangerous than being born in Europe.
Ben Franklin and his ilk disagreed, hence we have the myth that unfair taxes prompted the American revolution.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 16, 2021 17:57:34 GMT -5
Elisa Lam wasn't murdered, it was a tragic accident. It mostly stems from a misconception that the tank she was found in was closed when in fact it was open.
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Post by chrom on May 16, 2021 18:02:26 GMT -5
Everything about The Battle of Thermopylae, heck Spartan Culture in General gets vastly overblown as they are presented and seen as the ultimate ass kickers when in reality, they were often the ones who got their asses kicked.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 16, 2021 18:10:46 GMT -5
Everything about The Battle of Thermopylae, heck Spartan Culture in General gets vastly overblown as they are presented and seen as the ultimate ass kickers when in reality, they were often the ones who got their asses kicked. In 300, Leonidas makes a crack about an army of free men fighting impressed soldiers, which is pretty funny given that the Spartans were notorious slavers, and indeed a regiment of slaves served at Thermapolye. He also mockingly calls the Perisans "boy lovers" which... Well, the wiki for Sparta says a lot.
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Post by chrom on May 16, 2021 18:19:28 GMT -5
Everything about The Battle of Thermopylae, heck Spartan Culture in General gets vastly overblown as they are presented and seen as the ultimate ass kickers when in reality, they were often the ones who got their asses kicked. In 300, Leonidas makes a crack about an army of free men fighting impressed soldiers, which is pretty funny given that the Spartans were notorious slavers, and indeed a regiment of slaves served at Thermapolye. He also mockingly calls the Perisans "boy lovers" which... Well, the wiki for Sparta says a lot. The biggest most embarrassing defeat for Sparta came at the hands of The Sacred Band of Thebes at Tegyra, who outnumbered 4 to 1, demolished them without suffering a single casualty
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 16, 2021 18:19:35 GMT -5
Everything about The Battle of Thermopylae, heck Spartan Culture in General gets vastly overblown as they are presented and seen as the ultimate ass kickers when in reality, they were often the ones who got their asses kicked. In 300, Leonidas makes a crack about an army of free men fighting impressed soldiers, which is pretty funny given that the Spartans were notorious slavers, and indeed a regiment of slaves served at Thermapolye. He also mockingly calls the Perisans "boy lovers" which... Well, the wiki for Sparta says a lot. That movie and comic obviously cared not about history But taking the queer out of the Spartans in a story should really have you asking yourself why the f*** you are writing about Spartans
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Post by darbus alan on May 16, 2021 18:43:32 GMT -5
38 people did not stand around and watch Kitty Genovese get murdered in fact the whole scenario doesn't even make sense. The reporter who wrote the story admitted he had made up facts and even family members of Kitty has said in interviews that people came out to help but people still believe it is fact. Stories involving Ty Cobb and his racism. Buck O'Neil has even said that Cobb wasn't a racist but lets not take his word for it let's take the word of a writer with very little credibility named Al Stump. Ty Cobb was a miserable bastard, but he was not a racist in the slightest. He's descended from a family of abolitionists from Georgia and even advocated for integration decades before Jackie Robinson first played for the Dodgers.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 16, 2021 18:54:38 GMT -5
38 people did not stand around and watch Kitty Genovese get murdered in fact the whole scenario doesn't even make sense. The reporter who wrote the story admitted he had made up facts and even family members of Kitty has said in interviews that people came out to help but people still believe it is fact. Stories involving Ty Cobb and his racism. Buck O'Neil has even said that Cobb wasn't a racist but lets not take his word for it let's take the word of a writer with very little credibility named Al Stump. Ty Cobb was a miserable bastard, but he was not a racist in the slightest. He's descended from a family of abolitionists from Georgia and even advocated for integration decades before Jackie Robinson first played for the Dodgers. He did still treat black people like shit though. I had to read his autobiography for a college class, and I can't remember what his justification for attacking a black elevator operator was, but he does acknowledge he did it. Arguing "but he was NOT a racist!" takes away from that he was a complete misanthrope and just a shitty person in general.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on May 16, 2021 19:02:40 GMT -5
Here’s another one: Nazi Germany was NOT the super-efficient, unified, making-the-trains-run-on-time machine it’s often depicted as. On top of all its other evils, it was super corrupt and disorganized, plagued by bureaucratic turf wars, and paralyzed at numerous steps by indecisiveness, incompetence, unclear directives, and people not knowing who was in charge of what. A lot of fiction imagines them establishing a moon base by the end of the 1950s or whatever if they had won the war, but that’s giving them way too much credit that they’d be able to get their crap together for once.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 16, 2021 19:26:05 GMT -5
Here’s another one: Nazi Germany was NOT the super-efficient, unified, making-the-trains-run-on-time machine it’s often depicted as. On top of all its other evils, it was super corrupt and disorganized, plagued by bureaucratic turf wars, and paralyzed at numerous steps by indecisiveness, incompetence, unclear directives, and people not knowing who was in charge of what. A lot of fiction imagines them establishing a moon base by the end of the 1950s or whatever if they had won the war, but that’s giving them way too much credit that they’d be able to get their crap together for once. Strictly an amateur historian who reads a lot, but I do think it's kind of tough to argue that between the Roman Empire and the modern United States than Nazi Germany wasn't the most efficient war machine on Earth. Best technology, best morale, best military minds. That they were able to steamroll a historic power like France, to the astonishment of the English, says volumes. They also had an almost unique advantage in the sense that there was never any significant domestic opposition to the war effort. Their downfall was in deciding to fight on two fronts against two superpowers, devoting inordinate resources to an extermination campaign that didn't benefit them militarily, and overestimating their ability to hold territory in the face of significant opposition.
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Post by Glitch on May 16, 2021 19:30:36 GMT -5
Speaking of ww2, the myth that one nation single handily won the war. WW2 was a complex conflict, and saying that America or Russia just swept through is disingenuous. Especially when you see how man nations fought.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on May 16, 2021 19:39:15 GMT -5
People still think Shawn Michaels threw Marty Jenny through a window when that coward was clearly just running for his life.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 19:53:18 GMT -5
In 300, Leonidas makes a crack about an army of free men fighting impressed soldiers, which is pretty funny given that the Spartans were notorious slavers, and indeed a regiment of slaves served at Thermapolye. He also mockingly calls the Perisans "boy lovers" which... Well, the wiki for Sparta says a lot. That movie and comic obviously cared not about history But taking the queer out of the Spartans in a story should really have you asking yourself why the f*** you are writing about Spartans When you look at Frank Miller's other works that didn't delve into licensed properties, like Ronin, you get the idea that Miller was infatuated with romanticizing cultures by making them edgy and stoic, while tossing out the parts that made them weird or mundane.
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Post by ERON on May 16, 2021 20:01:53 GMT -5
Humans don't only use 10 percent of their brains. Even when doing simple tasks, most of the brain is active.
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