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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 24, 2024 17:33:19 GMT -5
The Liv vibe right now feels like Bret Hart 1997.
She left due to injury due to Rhea who was more or less a bigger heel at the time. Now the fans have loved her and accept her now, leaving Liv coming back to a changed environment and leaving her a little confused. Her obsession with the one person who took her out and seek revenge may not be as supported as when she left.
So when she's fixed in her chase for Rhea, she should pull a Bret and realize the fans have changed. She didn't change, THEY did supporting Rhea now. Plus with them cheering for Tiffy, that can add to her beef the FANS changed.
So she probably wins by cheating and starts to realize she did no wrong and starts the Bret Hart 1997 heel turn, where they believe they did no wrong. And that's how she beats Rhea.
I think Liv will injure Rhea and send her packing for some time off.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 24, 2024 17:39:13 GMT -5
I'm disappointed she didn't win, but I'm pretty happy she pinned Bianca and was the last one to get eliminated (also last in the Royal Rumble). It sucks she was the one to pin Tiffy, though, because she got booed like crazy, lol. At least she embraced the boos.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 24, 2024 17:44:56 GMT -5
She pinned Bianca, how can you be anything but cautiously optimistic?
If anything I'd be even more excited for her. It obviously was going to be Becky/Rhea and Liv has been wrestling super inspired the last few weeks. Her in ring stuff has jumped up several levels.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 24, 2024 17:47:33 GMT -5
She pinned Bianca, how can you be anything but cautiously optimistic? If anything I'd be even more excited for her. It obviously was going to be Becky/Rhea and Liv has been wrestling super inspired the last few weeks. Her in ring stuff has jumped up several levels. People still don't give her enough credit for how good she's become in the ring.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 24, 2024 17:49:38 GMT -5
She pinned Bianca, how can you be anything but cautiously optimistic? If anything I'd be even more excited for her. It obviously was going to be Becky/Rhea and Liv has been wrestling super inspired the last few weeks. Her in ring stuff has jumped up several levels. People still don't give her enough credit for how good she's become in the ring. Her when she was champion to now is like an entirely different wrestler, she is good good now. Like three or four times better. I don't exactly have faith they have enough time to set her up with something really cool for Mania but she is clearly set up to win a ton of titles not that long from now, the overall package is far too good not to.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 24, 2024 17:50:51 GMT -5
People still don't give her enough credit for how good she's become in the ring. Her when she was champion to now is like an entirely different wrestler, she is good good now. Like three or four times better. I don't exactly have faith they have enough time to set her up with something really cool for Mania but she is clearly set up to win a ton of titles not that long from now, the overall package is far too good not to. She could have a fun run in NXT defeating Lyra and then feuding with Roxy afterwards. Liv never got her flowers in NXT, so this would be great!
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Feb 24, 2024 17:52:03 GMT -5
Her when she was champion to now is like an entirely different wrestler, she is good good now. Like three or four times better. I don't exactly have faith they have enough time to set her up with something really cool for Mania but she is clearly set up to win a ton of titles not that long from now, the overall package is far too good not to. She could have a fun run in NXT defeating Lyra and then feuding with Roxy afterwards. Liv never got her flowers in NXT, so this would be great! Letting her be a mini superboss and get weird with it in NXT would be a dream
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 24, 2024 17:56:53 GMT -5
I really wish the women had a singles equivalent to the IC or US Title, I'd make Liv the champ.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 24, 2024 18:03:52 GMT -5
I really wish the women had a singles equivalent to the IC or US Title, I'd make Liv the champ. PERFECT for the women!
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 24, 2024 18:22:09 GMT -5
I'm disappointed she didn't win, but I'm pretty happy she pinned Bianca and was the last one to get eliminated (also last in the Royal Rumble). It sucks she was the one to pin Tiffy, though, because she got booed like crazy, lol. At least she embraced the boos. I thought it was more a call back to last night in Utah:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2024 18:35:26 GMT -5
The Liv vibe right now feels like Bret Hart 1997. She left due to injury due to Rhea who was more or less a bigger heel at the time. Now the fans have loved her and accept her now, leaving Liv coming back to a changed environment and leaving her a little confused. Her obsession with the one person who took her out and seek revenge may not be as supported as when she left. So when she's fixed in her chase for Rhea, she should pull a Bret and realize the fans have changed. She didn't change, THEY did supporting Rhea now. Plus with them cheering for Tiffy, that can add to her beef the FANS changed. So she probably wins by cheating and starts to realize she did no wrong and starts the Bret Hart 1997 heel turn, where they believe they did no wrong. And that's how she beats Rhea. I think Liv will injure Rhea and send her packing for some time off. not a bad idea, just so hard to envision her as a heel
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2024 18:35:58 GMT -5
I'm disappointed she didn't win, but I'm pretty happy she pinned Bianca and was the last one to get eliminated (also last in the Royal Rumble). It sucks she was the one to pin Tiffy, though, because she got booed like crazy, lol. At least she embraced the boos. yep and the "Livvy time" motion to her wrist was sooooo good
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2024 18:38:21 GMT -5
Her when she was champion to now is like an entirely different wrestler, she is good good now. Like three or four times better. I don't exactly have faith they have enough time to set her up with something really cool for Mania but she is clearly set up to win a ton of titles not that long from now, the overall package is far too good not to. She could have a fun run in NXT defeating Lyra and then feuding with Roxy afterwards. Liv never got her flowers in NXT, so this would be great! please god no, sending people back down to NXT rarely if ever works for a future call up to the main roster again No true fan of hers should want any part of this, imho. As much as WWE wants to sell people on NXT being some sort of equivalent to RAW/SmackDown and not a "minor league" situation it's totally B.S. Sending her there does nothing positive for her career.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2024 18:41:08 GMT -5
I really wish the women had a singles equivalent to the IC or US Title, I'd make Liv the champ. 100% been saying this to friends for a few years, really ever since the all-women's PPV. there are enough talented women on the roster to do this too. It also lets them gear the top titles to the biggest/strongest women where fans don't have to suspend belief that the smaller ones like Liv, an Alexa Bliss for instance, etc. could continually defeat the ripley's, bianca's, nia jax, jade cargill, etc. to gain and hold the "heavyweight" championship unveil a new belt, do a tournament to crown the first winner of it, if planned well coulda had the championship match at mania
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 24, 2024 18:45:43 GMT -5
Imagine when they do feud, Rhea and Liv do an official double turn.
JD Out: Rhea
JD In: Liv
Would anyone buy Liv as the new leader or member of JD?
Remember, Liv saw first hand the formation of Finn joining JD the night after they all 3 teamed up together with Styles.
They could like run that whole past back together if she joins. Finn can say he was scouting her all these years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2024 18:54:33 GMT -5
Imagine when they do feud, Rhea and Liv do an official double turn. JD Out: Rhea JD In: Liv Would anyone buy Liv as the new leader or member of JD? Remember, Liv saw first hand the formation of Finn joining JD the night after they all 3 teamed up together with Styles. They could like run that whole past back together if she joins. Finn can say he was scouting her all these years. not a horrible thought but can't say I love it either also not sure JD has a lot of time left, feels like if priest successfully cashes in the MITB contract (possibly at mania) may be looking at the start of a fracture with him and finn having some issues with that said, i for sure don't think people would buy her as a "leader" in the group... rhea works a as a leader cause she's been with them a long time and has the size/strength to stand up to the men
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 24, 2024 18:56:50 GMT -5
I really wish the women had a singles equivalent to the IC or US Title, I'd make Liv the champ. The OCD in me dictates that as long both exist for the men, they should do both for the women if they bring in singles midcard belts.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 24, 2024 18:59:48 GMT -5
The one night she's not doing the "fake tears" look, and she still does the crying motion.
That said, I do like Liv well enough. I just don't know how you put her over the top as a big deal.
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 24, 2024 19:46:55 GMT -5
She wrestled an inspired, PHYSICAL, match. Excited to see the path she's on
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Post by saneiac on Feb 24, 2024 20:09:44 GMT -5
please god no, sending people back down to NXT rarely if ever works for a future call up to the main roster again No true fan of hers should want any part of this, imho. As much as WWE wants to sell people on NXT being some sort of equivalent to RAW/SmackDown and not a "minor league" situation it's totally B.S. Sending her there does nothing positive for her career. Went to NXT and came back fine: Becky, Charlotte, Finn Balor Went to NXT and failed to recover/return: Veer, Apollo Crews, Drew Gulak, Commander Azeez, Dana Brooke The jury's out: Baron Corbin I'm sure I'm missing some. It's important to point out that other than Crews, everyone on the "fail" list was at the absolute bottom of their division already, and going to NXT was basically their last chance. That doesn't apply to Liv at all. I don't think she would be hurt by going to NXT.
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