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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 24, 2024 22:15:36 GMT -5
please god no, sending people back down to NXT rarely if ever works for a future call up to the main roster again No true fan of hers should want any part of this, imho. As much as WWE wants to sell people on NXT being some sort of equivalent to RAW/SmackDown and not a "minor league" situation it's totally B.S. Sending her there does nothing positive for her career. Went to NXT and came back fine: Becky, Charlotte, Finn Balor Went to NXT and failed to recover/return: Veer, Apollo Crews, Drew Gulak, Commander Azeez, Dana Brooke The jury's out: Baron Corbin I'm sure I'm missing some. It's important to point out that other than Crews, everyone on the "fail" list was at the absolute bottom of their division already, and going to NXT was basically their last chance. That doesn't apply to Liv at all. I don't think she would be hurt by going to NXT. Dolph's a wash, but he did help Bron. Dom was North American champ, and it helped him, granted he and Rhea were on every show. That asshole running around with a title.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2024 5:31:05 GMT -5
please god no, sending people back down to NXT rarely if ever works for a future call up to the main roster again No true fan of hers should want any part of this, imho. As much as WWE wants to sell people on NXT being some sort of equivalent to RAW/SmackDown and not a "minor league" situation it's totally B.S. Sending her there does nothing positive for her career. Went to NXT and came back fine: Becky, Charlotte, Finn Balor Went to NXT and failed to recover/return: Veer, Apollo Crews, Drew Gulak, Commander Azeez, Dana Brooke The jury's out: Baron Corbin I'm sure I'm missing some. It's important to point out that other than Crews, everyone on the "fail" list was at the absolute bottom of their division already, and going to NXT was basically their last chance. That doesn't apply to Liv at all. I don't think she would be hurt by going to NXT. In NXT's current format, as it currently operates, not the old way... when did Becky or Charlotte go down for more than a a crossover match or 2 and then return? I'm asking honestly not trying to be a sarcastic jerk. I don't remember and must have missed it.
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Post by saneiac on Feb 25, 2024 10:52:26 GMT -5
In NXT's current format, as it currently operates, not the old way... when did Becky or Charlotte go down for more than a a crossover match or 2 and then return? I'm asking honestly not trying to be a sarcastic jerk. I don't remember and must have missed it. Charlotte beat Rhea Ripley at WM 36 to become NXT champion. She defended the title on NXT against Mia Yim and Io Shirai and also had a tag team match teaming with Chelsea Green. She lost the title to Shirai in a 3 way that also included Rhea. Becky’s run was just last year. She beat Tiffany Stratton to become NXT champion, and defended it in matches against Indi Hartwell, Tegan Nox, and Stratton in a no DQ rematch. She lost the title to Lyra Valkyria in something of an upset.
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Post by HIM on Feb 25, 2024 21:35:52 GMT -5
For as pushed as yall claim Bianca is yall need to be happy Liv pinned her especially after she just returned. At the end of the day Becky/Rhea has been the path we're on for a while now. Liv is fine.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 25, 2024 21:37:35 GMT -5
For as pushed as yall claim Bianca is yall need to be happy Liv pinned her especially after she just returned. At the end of the day Becky/Rhea has been the path we're on for a while now. Liv is fine. And the way she lost to Becky protected her IMO. Definitely interested in seeing what they do next with her.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Feb 25, 2024 21:42:39 GMT -5
For as pushed as yall claim Bianca is yall need to be happy Liv pinned her especially after she just returned. At the end of the day Becky/Rhea has been the path we're on for a while now. Liv is fine. And the way she lost to Becky protected her IMO. Definitely interested in seeing what they do next with her. Yup. And saying "hey she ACTUALLY ate a pin" kinda just proves our point about her being pushed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2024 2:51:37 GMT -5
In NXT's current format, as it currently operates, not the old way... when did Becky or Charlotte go down for more than a a crossover match or 2 and then return? I'm asking honestly not trying to be a sarcastic jerk. I don't remember and must have missed it. Charlotte beat Rhea Ripley at WM 36 to become NXT champion. She defended the title on NXT against Mia Yim and Io Shirai and also had a tag team match teaming with Chelsea Green. She lost the title to Shirai in a 3 way that also included Rhea. Becky’s run was just last year. She beat Tiffany Stratton to become NXT champion, and defended it in matches against Indi Hartwell, Tegan Nox, and Stratton in a no DQ rematch. She lost the title to Lyra Valkyria in something of an upset. ok, I do remember those... I think the difference there is charlote/becky were double dipping and still doing main roster stuff on smackdown/raw, or am I being a major fool and wrong on that? maybe that's what you meant for Liv and I guess that would be ok... but the way I read it was have her go down and be NXT exclusive like corbin or mandy rose when she went down there... that I do not want.
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Post by stevescorpio on Feb 26, 2024 7:48:24 GMT -5
In NXT's current format, as it currently operates, not the old way... when did Becky or Charlotte go down for more than a a crossover match or 2 and then return? I'm asking honestly not trying to be a sarcastic jerk. I don't remember and must have missed it. Charlotte beat Rhea Ripley at WM 36 to become NXT champion. She defended the title on NXT against Mia Yim and Io Shirai and also had a tag team match teaming with Chelsea Green. She lost the title to Shirai in a 3 way that also included Rhea. Becky’s run was just last year. She beat Tiffany Stratton to become NXT champion, and defended it in matches against Indi Hartwell, Tegan Nox, and Stratton in a no DQ rematch. She lost the title to Lyra Valkyria in something of an upset. The problem with Charlotte's run in NXT is that she was rarely on, and thus it was viewed that NXT was beneath her. Becky to her credit showed up quite a bit and put Lyra over big time. I would be interested in seeing what Liv could do in the new NXT.
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 26, 2024 8:03:10 GMT -5
Charlotte beat Rhea Ripley at WM 36 to become NXT champion. She defended the title on NXT against Mia Yim and Io Shirai and also had a tag team match teaming with Chelsea Green. She lost the title to Shirai in a 3 way that also included Rhea. Becky’s run was just last year. She beat Tiffany Stratton to become NXT champion, and defended it in matches against Indi Hartwell, Tegan Nox, and Stratton in a no DQ rematch. She lost the title to Lyra Valkyria in something of an upset. The problem with Charlotte's run in NXT is that she was rarely on, and thus it was viewed that NXT was beneath her. Becky to her credit showed up quite a bit and put Lyra over big time. I would be interested in seeing what Liv could do in the new NXT. They could have done more with Charlotte in NXT, but she was also being used heavily on the other shows. There was a two-week Smackdown feud with Bayley, and I remember one empty arena-era Raw which opened with her and Asuka having a triple-threat tag match, and then having a 27-minute singles match later that night to end the show.
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Post by stevescorpio on Feb 26, 2024 9:57:13 GMT -5
The problem with Charlotte's run in NXT is that she was rarely on, and thus it was viewed that NXT was beneath her. Becky to her credit showed up quite a bit and put Lyra over big time. I would be interested in seeing what Liv could do in the new NXT. They could have done more with Charlotte in NXT, but she was also being used heavily on the other shows. There was a two-week Smackdown feud with Bayley, and I remember one empty arena-era Raw which opened with her and Asuka having a triple-threat tag match, and then having a 27-minute singles match later that night to end the show. The Pandemic Era might have been WWE's worst time creatively in recent years. It's only just now that they have seemed to bounce back.
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Post by chronocross on Feb 26, 2024 11:31:35 GMT -5
I must say I was surprised to see Liv get heel heat and Tiffany to be given a hero's reaction in Australia.
Curious to see how things play out this week.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2024 11:39:09 GMT -5
If HHH creatively was not willing to budge on IYO and Bianca switching alignments after Backlash which was a much stronger reverse reaction then I doubt he suddenly flips Liv and Tiffany.
Although I do think Liv is going to go heel regardless pretty soon.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 26, 2024 11:44:35 GMT -5
If HHH creatively was not willing to budge on IYO and Bianca switching alignments after Backlash which was a much stronger reverse reaction then I doubt he suddenly flips Liv and Tiffany. Although I do think Liv is going to go heel regardless pretty soon. Especially since they were teasing IYO as a Face prior to Backlash with Bianca showing IYO respect and putting her over in her promos, etc. With how popular and over Rhea has gotten in the past year or so, Liv probably will have to go Heel. Her "Go Cry about it" catchphrase doesn't exactly scream babyface either.
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Post by J is Justice on Feb 26, 2024 11:46:59 GMT -5
To be fair, I think anyone would've been booed for eliminating Tiffy, lol.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 26, 2024 16:31:58 GMT -5
I've given some time for myself to think about the L now.
Still, UNSATISFIED.
I won't most likely be watching 'Mania, there is nothing for me, but I do hope "the revenge era" was not bullshit and we have that match vs. Ripley later on.
' will check out the Liv parts - but I've decided to take a break from watching 'til Backlash at least to load my batteries.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 26, 2024 16:42:26 GMT -5
Always #2 (stands for shit), cwy about it!
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 26, 2024 17:02:23 GMT -5
Although I do think Liv is going to go heel regardless pretty soon. I'd actually love that, could relate to it with my current feelings. + Liv SOMEHOW upgrades her gear even cooler.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2024 17:24:23 GMT -5
Although I do think Liv is going to go heel regardless pretty soon. I'd actually love that, could relate to it with my current feelings. + Liv SOMEHOW upgrades her gear even cooler. IMO she has needed the change for awhile and it has been a long while since she has been an outright heel so it will be something real fresh for her.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 26, 2024 18:14:28 GMT -5
Liv should superkick the shit out of Becky tonight instead of settling being *#2* and make it a 3-Way like XX years ago. Step up! 😇
I expect here to not be featured tonight, regardless. It's what it is. They've *almost* killed my spirit.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 26, 2024 18:17:21 GMT -5
Liv should superkick the shit out of Becky tonight instead of settling being *#2* and make it a 3-Way like XX years ago. Step up! 😇
I expect here to not be featured tonight, regardless. It's what it is. They've *almost* killed my spirit. The #2 stands for shit.
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