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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 4, 2022 16:11:01 GMT -5
I was okay with Sasha and Naomi winning because A. both women probably needed it to a degree, and B. as compensation for how they've both been jerked around at 'Mania season many a time. Still, I do hope their reign is brief and we get Rhea and Liv with the tag titles by the time of Summerslam. For me Sasha and Naomi winning was "well at least it wasn't Carmella and Zelina or even worse Natalya and Shayna". I was really hoping for Rhea and Liv but Sasha and Naomi were definitely the best option of the alternatives. And to be fair they were probably more over with the crowd. However has Naomi really been jerked around that much during Mania season? She won the SD title at 33, won the battle royal at 34 even though there was definitely better options, and won the Tag Titles last night. I mean I guess she did eat the fall in multi woman matches at 30 and 32 but I think the good definitely outweighs the bad. Sasha I would agree but they've also given her so much in general it's kind of like "cry me a river" when people complain about that especially in comparison to someone like Liv who has like literally been given nothing in five years on the main roster. No titles or any accomplishments to speak of. So far her biggest accomplishments are having a secondary PPV title match against Becky, lasting almost 40 minutes in a Royal Rumble only to get eliminated by Brie Bella of all people, and winning a Wrestlemania match......on the pre show and in front of no fans. I mean I guess maybe her and Rhea eventually get the belts but I think they are going to want to push Rhea as a singles contender sooner then later so this to me is looking like yet another case of "back to the drawing board" for poor Olivia. she also allegedly messed up the finish at 30... AJ Lee was supposed to make it look like Naomi tapped... and instead she actually tapped ruining the angle... AJ even had the I'm being sneaky look on her face as she grabbed Naomi's hand... right before Naomi tapped normally. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 4, 2022 16:20:36 GMT -5
I was okay with Sasha and Naomi winning because A. both women probably needed it to a degree, and B. as compensation for how they've both been jerked around at 'Mania season many a time. Still, I do hope their reign is brief and we get Rhea and Liv with the tag titles by the time of Summerslam. For me Sasha and Naomi winning was "well at least it wasn't Carmella and Zelina or even worse Natalya and Shayna". I was really hoping for Rhea and Liv but Sasha and Naomi were definitely the best option of the alternatives. And to be fair they were probably more over with the crowd. However has Naomi really been jerked around that much during Mania season? She won the SD title at 33, won the battle royal at 34 even though there was definitely better options, and won the Tag Titles last night. I mean I guess she did eat the fall in multi woman matches at 30 and 32 but I think the good definitely outweighs the bad. Sasha I would agree but they've also given her so much in general it's kind of like "cry me a river" when people complain about that especially in comparison to someone like Liv who has like literally been given nothing in five years on the main roster. No titles or any accomplishments to speak of. So far her biggest accomplishments are having a secondary PPV title match against Becky, lasting almost 40 minutes in a Royal Rumble only to get eliminated by Brie Bella of all people, and winning a Wrestlemania match......on the pre show and in front of no fans. I mean I guess maybe her and Rhea eventually get the belts but I think they are going to want to push Rhea as a singles contender sooner then later so this to me is looking like yet another case of "back to the drawing board" for poor Olivia. I was thinking of her having one of her matches cut entirely one year. She's definitely been treated well at some other times, though, yeah. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 4, 2022 16:52:36 GMT -5
For me Sasha and Naomi winning was "well at least it wasn't Carmella and Zelina or even worse Natalya and Shayna". I was really hoping for Rhea and Liv but Sasha and Naomi were definitely the best option of the alternatives. And to be fair they were probably more over with the crowd. However has Naomi really been jerked around that much during Mania season? She won the SD title at 33, won the battle royal at 34 even though there was definitely better options, and won the Tag Titles last night. I mean I guess she did eat the fall in multi woman matches at 30 and 32 but I think the good definitely outweighs the bad. Sasha I would agree but they've also given her so much in general it's kind of like "cry me a river" when people complain about that especially in comparison to someone like Liv who has like literally been given nothing in five years on the main roster. No titles or any accomplishments to speak of. So far her biggest accomplishments are having a secondary PPV title match against Becky, lasting almost 40 minutes in a Royal Rumble only to get eliminated by Brie Bella of all people, and winning a Wrestlemania match......on the pre show and in front of no fans. I mean I guess maybe her and Rhea eventually get the belts but I think they are going to want to push Rhea as a singles contender sooner then later so this to me is looking like yet another case of "back to the drawing board" for poor Olivia. I was thinking of her having one of her matches cut entirely one year. She's definitely been treated well at some other times, though, yeah. That's true. I forgot she was part of that Team Funk-Rhode Scholar/Bella match that got cut from 29. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 4, 2022 16:54:06 GMT -5
For me Sasha and Naomi winning was "well at least it wasn't Carmella and Zelina or even worse Natalya and Shayna". I was really hoping for Rhea and Liv but Sasha and Naomi were definitely the best option of the alternatives. And to be fair they were probably more over with the crowd. However has Naomi really been jerked around that much during Mania season? She won the SD title at 33, won the battle royal at 34 even though there was definitely better options, and won the Tag Titles last night. I mean I guess she did eat the fall in multi woman matches at 30 and 32 but I think the good definitely outweighs the bad. Sasha I would agree but they've also given her so much in general it's kind of like "cry me a river" when people complain about that especially in comparison to someone like Liv who has like literally been given nothing in five years on the main roster. No titles or any accomplishments to speak of. So far her biggest accomplishments are having a secondary PPV title match against Becky, lasting almost 40 minutes in a Royal Rumble only to get eliminated by Brie Bella of all people, and winning a Wrestlemania match......on the pre show and in front of no fans. I mean I guess maybe her and Rhea eventually get the belts but I think they are going to want to push Rhea as a singles contender sooner then later so this to me is looking like yet another case of "back to the drawing board" for poor Olivia. she also allegedly messed up the finish at 30... AJ Lee was supposed to make it look like Naomi tapped... and instead she actually tapped ruining the angle... AJ even had the I'm being sneaky look on her face as she grabbed Naomi's hand... right before Naomi tapped normally. Sounds like a weird mistake. I guess Naomi just either absent mindedly tapped forgetting the finish or for some reason she thought AJ had grabbed her hand when she didn't. |
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 4, 2022 16:56:36 GMT -5
Sasha is the one who has had it rough at Mania. It’s ridiculous that it took her SEVEN YEARS to win even once at Manis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 17:10:03 GMT -5
Sasha is the one who has had it rough at Mania. It’s ridiculous that it took her SEVEN YEARS to win even once at Manis. Especially when the other 4HW have all won more than once. I get that she's still had a career most other women would kill for, but it's still weird. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 4, 2022 18:14:41 GMT -5
she also allegedly messed up the finish at 30... AJ Lee was supposed to make it look like Naomi tapped... and instead she actually tapped ruining the angle... AJ even had the I'm being sneaky look on her face as she grabbed Naomi's hand... right before Naomi tapped normally. Sounds like a weird mistake. I guess Naomi just either absent mindedly tapped forgetting the finish or for some reason she thought AJ had grabbed her hand when she didn't. here's the video link of it... it really makes no sense... they zoom in on AJ making the tap and then zoom out and see Naomi start tapping with her other hand... |
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 4, 2022 19:19:51 GMT -5
Sounds like a weird mistake. I guess Naomi just either absent mindedly tapped forgetting the finish or for some reason she thought AJ had grabbed her hand when she didn't. here's the video link of it... it really makes no sense... they zoom in on AJ making the tap and then zoom out and see Naomi start tapping with her other hand...
The really interesting part is that that botch changed the entire history of women's wrestling. Reportedly the plan was that Naomi was going to beat AJ the night after being 'cheated' at Mania. Due to Naomi tapping normally, they couldn't do that, and had to call up Paige to get that spot instead. Which in turn meant that a planned Paige/Charlotte title match ended up being the groundbreaking Natalya/Charlotte Takeover match.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2022 19:43:47 GMT -5
Reminder WWE hates fun.
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 4, 2022 20:54:04 GMT -5
Liv has been spared. For a week at least.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 4, 2022 21:50:31 GMT -5
You hope someone will love you as much as Vince hates Women Tag Teams.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 4, 2022 21:57:00 GMT -5
I think it's pretty safe to say Liv is pretty much done for come end of this month.
Also can anyone can make sense "yeah we didn't win last night and we lost fair and square tonight, can we get a title shot next week?" "Yeah sure why not you seem deserving".
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Post by tenshi on Apr 4, 2022 22:09:01 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 4, 2022 22:22:00 GMT -5
Liv used the L word on Rhea... Le... wait I guess the Scott Pilgrim joke doesn't really work here >_> |
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 4, 2022 22:26:36 GMT -5
I think it's pretty safe to say Liv is pretty much done for come end of this month. Also can anyone can make sense "yeah we didn't win last night and we lost fair and square tonight, can we get a title shot next week?" "Yeah sure why not you seem deserving".
I think the logic is just that this way, Rhea's more irritated at Liv for failing them and failing her. I think they could have drawn it out more, but here we are.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 4, 2022 22:36:51 GMT -5
I think it's pretty safe to say Liv is pretty much done for come end of this month. Also can anyone can make sense "yeah we didn't win last night and we lost fair and square tonight, can we get a title shot next week?" "Yeah sure why not you seem deserving". I think the logic is just that this way, Rhea's more irritated at Liv for failing them and failing her. I think they could have drawn it out more, but here we are.
I get that she's irritated with her but then why not just have her turn on her tonight for being the weak leak and losing? That's obviously what they are going to do anyways next week after Liv gets pinned again. I guess it would've been abrupt but not really much more then what they are going to do and makes more sense then Adam Pierce granting them another title shot even though they just lost clean as a sheet to the champions. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 4, 2022 22:41:22 GMT -5
I think the logic is just that this way, Rhea's more irritated at Liv for failing them and failing her. I think they could have drawn it out more, but here we are.
I get that she's irritated with her but then why not just have her turn on her tonight for being the weak leak and losing? That's obviously what they are going to do anyways next week after Liv gets pinned again. I guess it would've been abrupt but not really much more then what they are going to do and makes more sense then Adam Pierce granting them another title shot even though they just lost clean as a sheet to the champions. Yeah, with both Liv and Nikki the story really feels like Rhea's tired of carrying dead weight in the tag division and wants to actually go and dominate the singles division. I mean they could in theory do that without breaking the team up... but A. this is the WWE, and B. Bianca needs some new heels to face. |
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Post by tenshi on Apr 4, 2022 22:53:42 GMT -5
I get that she's irritated with her but then why not just have her turn on her tonight for being the weak leak and losing? That's obviously what they are going to do anyways next week after Liv gets pinned again. I guess it would've been abrupt but not really much more then what they are going to do and makes more sense then Adam Pierce granting them another title shot even though they just lost clean as a sheet to the champions. Yeah, with both Liv and Nikki the story really feels like Rhea's tired of carrying dead weight in the tag division and wants to actually go and dominate the singles division. I mean they could in theory do that without breaking the team up... but A. this is the WWE, and B. Bianca needs some new heels to face. There's the outside chance of either Becky activating her Game Genie and ask a rematch with Bianca with shenanigans involved or Bianca faces a returning wrestler while these two teams stretch things out until Backlash but yeah... There aren't many options for Bianca now that Becky lost besides a rematch. Rhea and Liv might break up next week and, if it does, let's hope the little one doesn't die too hard. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 23:03:03 GMT -5
If there's one positive thing about Rhea going heel and possibly joining Edge and Priest, it's that she'll at least have someone else doing the talking for her. Still, Liv 4 Brutality 4 Life!!!!
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 5, 2022 6:55:50 GMT -5
It's over for Liv if they split. Where's she going after this? Gonna keep Shotzi company, I guess.
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