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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 25, 2023 16:14:03 GMT -5
Jobs three times last week, gets segment cut this week, jobbing again next week. Not looking good. She's clearly pissed someone off as this is coming off like how they would book someone back in the day when they were on their way out of the company.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Feb 25, 2023 16:27:25 GMT -5
We as a fanbase are still not ready to handle an all-clean finish territory if we’re still taking a string of clean losses (to the WrestleMania title challengers, mind you) to mean “punishment and heat”.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 25, 2023 16:38:00 GMT -5
We as a fanbase are still not ready to handle an all-clean finish territory if we’re still taking clean losses to mean “punishment and heat”. I think in this case it's more with the abrupt nature of the clean losses. She had a runner up finish in the Rumble in which she lasted over an hour. Like you would think for sure they they would have big plans for someone going forward if they gave them that big of a push in the match and instead she's just been doing nothing but jobbing left and right including two tap outs with one being in a six woman tag where they plenty of other alternatives for a finish. It really feels like something happened after the Rumble in the week afterwards as it's been such a drastic 180 with how she's been booked. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 25, 2023 16:39:11 GMT -5
We as a fanbase are still not ready to handle an all-clean finish territory if we’re still taking a string of clean losses (to the WrestleMania title challengers, mind you) to mean “punishment and heat”. After it took a double submission to beat her at the Chamber |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Feb 25, 2023 17:01:54 GMT -5
We as a fanbase are still not ready to handle an all-clean finish territory if we’re still taking clean losses to mean “punishment and heat”. I think in this case it's more with the abrupt nature of the clean losses. She had a runner up finish in the Rumble in which she lasted over an hour. Like you would think for sure they they would have big plans for someone going forward if they gave them that big of a push in the match and instead she's just been doing nothing but jobbing left and right including two tap outs with one being in a six woman tag where they plenty of other alternatives for a finish. It really feels like something happened after the Rumble in the week afterwards as it's been such a drastic 180 with how she's been booked. I don’t know why she’s lost so much recently. People might bring up her saying in some interview she wanted to do more hardcore stuff as the smoking gun, but that is a stretch. But it all comes back to the burning question that I always have… WHO 👏 IS 👏 ALLOWED 👏 TO 👏 LOSE? 👏 The fact of the matter is… Nobody is. I’m finding that wrestlers, male or female, tend to fall into four categories here. A. The main eventer that wins too much but can’t really job them out too much or else they become category B (Belair, Flair, Rousey) B. The main eventer that lost too much and doesn’t feel like a big star anymore (Lynch, Bayley, Bliss) C. The rising star that should be a main eventer but keeps getting held down/MY FAVOURITE WRESTLER (seemingly everyone that isn’t in categories A, B or D) D. The people they always bring out to lose, but they’re so stale I don’t even want them on TV doing THAT. And God help me if they actually win (Natalya, Carmella, Dana Brooke, Tamina) You see the dilemma here? Main level weekly shows are never going to go back to being primarily enhancement squashes, so either we need to figure out a solution or learn to cope. |
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 25, 2023 17:17:42 GMT -5
I expected Liv vs. Rhea to happen after 'Mania with a build-up. At least these L's are against high profile opponents.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 27, 2023 10:16:46 GMT -5
In perfect world, Liv defeats Rhea at SmackDown and finds her way to a WrestleMania match. 🙏  I still don't know to accept the possible fact that she's missing WrestleMania while being perfectly healthy. 🤒 All of her momentum was sacrificed so others would look great! 💀 |
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Feb 27, 2023 13:41:59 GMT -5
I expected Liv vs. Rhea to happen after 'Mania with a build-up. At least these L's are against high profile opponents. Liv dethroning Asuka or Rhea we need to get |
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Post by J is Justice on Feb 27, 2023 14:36:33 GMT -5
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 28, 2023 5:00:36 GMT -5
Really entertaining Fatal 4-Way match between Liv Morgan, Charlotte Flair, Sonya Deville and Zoey Stark (?) in a house show. 😎 Wish it all was televised. 👌
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 28, 2023 5:36:56 GMT -5
Not really related but I miss this Alexa. Unless Alexa is taking a vacation... I wish they would go straight to the business w/ Bray Wyatt stuff. (Uncle Howdy? Not so much. 🤔) ~ It's been years in the making already. Stop teasing us and start up delivering, WWE! 🤐 |
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Post by theironyuppie on Mar 3, 2023 22:51:56 GMT -5
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Mar 3, 2023 22:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 3, 2023 23:05:18 GMT -5
Rhea vs. Liv was a fun match. Rhea is awesome and Liv is legit good now. But Liv’s booking is very frustrating. Runner up in the RR (and only lost because she was blinded by mist), but is then booked to lose almost ever TV match after that. Refuses to tap in the EC to two submission holds, but is booked to tap to three straight TV matches when it wasn’t needed. A little consistency please. Also it would suck if they have nothing for her at Mania as well.
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Post by J is Justice on Mar 3, 2023 23:23:26 GMT -5
Her booking has been very odd.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 3, 2023 23:25:25 GMT -5
It’s just sloppy booking. Or intentional for WWE to give themselves an excuse for leaving her off the Mania card.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 4, 2023 5:37:01 GMT -5
What Liv's booking feels like to me is that they have the idea that if once every couple of months they give her a big moment then the rest of the time they can feel free to job her out because she'll bounce back from it. Feels like diminishing returns are already setting in on that though.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Mar 4, 2023 6:08:14 GMT -5
What Liv's booking feels like to me is that they have the idea that if once every couple of months they give her a big moment then the rest of the time they can feel free to job her out because she'll bounce back from it. Feels like diminishing returns are already setting in on that though. There's no credible vehicle for Morgan, or anyone really that isn't openly getting a big push, to rehab themselves and get some wins on the board so when they do show up on RAW and SmackDown, they have credibility to give if they lose. Moreso with SmackDown with the shorter run time and no B-show since 2016. Morgan's been milked dry in this regard in recent weeks because, as a recent singles champion, she might be the only one that has any they're willing to give. Belair and Flair are being kept for Asuka and Ripley at WrestleMania (where it's an even chance they'll win and retain), they're not gonna have Rousey lose clean to anyone else because MMA and Lynch was just put to task for being too generous in trying to put over Damage CTRL, so she can't really spare too many losses. Nobody else has any rub to give because there's nobody stringing wins together. Only two women on the entire roster (including NXT) have win streaks longer than five right now, and that's Belair (7) and Asuka (6). And it's not like we can go "Oh, Belair has won 15 in a row clean, she can lose 15 in a row clean and still be fine"... Not if your clean losses hurt you more than your clean wins help you, as seems to be the general consensus. It's why I try to tell you guys to not take any of this so personally on behalf of the talent, because it's an issue bigger than any one of them. |
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Post by mj0mn0m on Mar 4, 2023 6:48:57 GMT -5
As of right now, this clip is the only comfort for me in a seriously f***ed up situation where they've made Liv tap/choke literally multiple times. Never mind during WrestleMania season. I will never let this one slide. Cancelled WWE Network and won't pay a dime for this show, that is damn sure. Might be the deepest waters for me in 20 years that I've been watching... 😵 |
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Post by papagiorgio on Mar 4, 2023 7:28:08 GMT -5
If they do a 4 team match at Mania for the tag titles she has a chance at being the last team in with Raquel, who I feel management would want on the card. They could do a Gautlet like a few years ago, which would increase Liv's chances, with other make shift teams as well like Carmella/Chelsea and Natalya/Tegan. It seems like they always try to find a spot for Natalya.
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