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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 2, 2021 11:29:00 GMT -5
That maybe so, but these releases in particular show that if that is the case, there's no communication or foresight being applied, it's almost a pick a name from a hat situation at this point. They clearly didn't know they were going to fire Aleister Black even days ago, else why go to the effort of bringing him back at all? That tells me that there's rash decisions being made rather than calculated ones which sort of implies that there's more pressing issues that simply an impending sale. I had a running thought that the releases have gone something like Vince says he needs to cut costs and Khan suggests some talents Vince gives authority to ace and whatever other yes man to cut who they see fit to cut They proceed to cut people they do not like or approve of...Vince is none the wiser and just sees money being saved. Even then, why not just do it all in one shot? Seems like every few weeks we're getting more with each time seemingly getting more and more bizarre. It's almost like there's an ongoing issue rather than a simple, we need to do X to achieve Y situation. I don't know, it just doesn't add up to me... but then, this is the WWE after all.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 2, 2021 11:29:04 GMT -5
In kayfabe it’s an incredible way for Black to go out. Bunch of weird fancy vignettes. Show up and randomly kick Big E’s head off. Never seen again. WE SPENT HOW MUCH ON YOUR CARTOONS?! *Fires instead of recouping investment*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 11:29:37 GMT -5
More from Fightful on Braun: "Braun Strowman's release was likely the most surprising to fans, but to talent close to the situation, it didn't seem to be. Several that we spoke to said that Strowman's contract, signed in 2019, was a monster deal, and that he very much knew his worth when negotiating with the company. His contract came down to the wire in the summer of 2019, and he was signed well into 2023, for what WWE sources claim was over $1 million per year. Strowman was said to have been very private about negotiating the deal until it was finalized" I'll give Strowman credit for being a good businessman, that's smart. With that said, WWE cutting someone with a huge salary sets the idea that yeah this was related somehow to money. Whether it means selling the company or looking more profitable with less superstars, that's how it looks. Yeah I'm guessing they'll sell. I'm in on that theory.
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Post by salz4life on Jun 2, 2021 11:31:01 GMT -5
What exactly happened with Santana? I didn't see it. Long story short, she made a post on Instagram over Memorial Day weekend glorifying a certain former president and also the confederacy. And when called out about it, she deleted the post and used the ol "well I have black friends" defense. Almost as if she was trying to get fired. There is no other reason I can think of being that dumb in the climate we now live in. I have no problem with someone having certain beliefs that I don't agree with. But you HAVE to know posting something in that vein is going to cause problems.
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Post by Fade on Jun 2, 2021 11:31:16 GMT -5
I still can’t get over Braun. Love him or hate him, he’s what Vince loves. He’s one of those guys that when people see him they know he’s something special. All that said, with the rumor of them asking talent to go to the PC to workout, did some of these releases say no and that’s why they cut them? Simply spitballing: I think Braun always saw himself as worth more than how the company (Vince& co) actually perceived him. Whether who’s right or wrong there *shrug*
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jun 2, 2021 11:32:09 GMT -5
assuming Braun's pitch for the big salary deal was a drawing of a giant shitty hole in a floor with flames shooting out
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Post by Fade on Jun 2, 2021 11:32:20 GMT -5
In kayfabe it’s an incredible way for Black to go out. Bunch of weird fancy vignettes. Show up and randomly kick Big E’s head off. Never seen again. WE SPENT HOW MUCH ON YOUR CARTOONS?! *Fires instead of recouping investment* Those Harry Potter Deathly Hallows-level animations were pretty sick.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 11:34:42 GMT -5
I still can’t get over Braun. Love him or hate him, he’s what Vince loves. He’s one of those guys that when people see him they know he’s something special. All that said, with the rumor of them asking talent to go to the PC to workout, did some of these releases say no and that’s why they cut them? Simply spitballing: I think Braun always saw himself as worth more than how the company (Vince& co) actually perceived him. Whether who’s right or wrong there *shrug* I honestly think that, the way modern WWE is structured, no one is worth anything. Wrestlers are just cogs in the “WWE Universe” machine. WWE could literally release Roman Reigns right now, and they’d just plug Jey Uso into his spot and the same 2.5 million people that watch every week would continue watching. WWE’s efforts to promote “the brand” over everything the last two decades have really “paid off,” in a manner of speaking.
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Post by salz4life on Jun 2, 2021 11:35:31 GMT -5
Tommy End basically has the world at his feet right now, AEW is going to make a move, New Japan could easily make a move, he could go back to WXW for a bit, just so much potential. I hope wherever he ends up, he kills it. NXT Aleister Black seemed like an absolute can't miss bada$$! His aura was amazing.
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Post by Fade on Jun 2, 2021 11:38:05 GMT -5
Tommy End basically has the world at his feet right now, AEW is going to make a move, New Japan could easily make a move, he could go back to WXW for a bit, just so much potential. I hope wherever he ends up, he kills it. NXT Aleister Black seemed like an absolute can't miss bada$$! His aura was amazing. Literally reminded me of SCSA’s vibe of the little I saw him in NXT. Guy could be aces.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 2, 2021 11:38:44 GMT -5
If this is the beginning of Nick Khan going Scorched Earth, I can't imagine NXT/205 comes out relatively unscathed...
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 2, 2021 11:39:17 GMT -5
If this is the beginning of Nick Khan going Scorched Earth, I can't imagine NXT/205 comes out relatively unscathed... Yeah, folks have said things aren't over today. I wouldn't be surprised if they looked at NXT/UK and 205 and made some cuts.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 2, 2021 11:40:01 GMT -5
If this is the beginning of Nick Khan going Scorched Earth, I can't imagine NXT/205 comes out relatively unscathed... Yeah, folks have said things aren't over today. I wouldn't be surprised if they looked at NXT/UK and 205 and made some cuts. WWE has released NXT UK and 205 Live, we wish those programs the best in their future endeavors.
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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 2, 2021 11:40:24 GMT -5
I honestly think that, the way modern WWE is structured, no one is worth anything. Wrestlers are just cogs in the “WWE Universe” machine. WWE could literally release Roman Reigns right now, and they’d just plug Jey Uso into his spot and the same 2.5 million people that watch every week would continue watching. WWE’s efforts to promote “the brand” over everything the last two decades have really “paid off,” in a manner of speaking. This is an excellent point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 11:40:37 GMT -5
I also guess that Zelina probably isn't returning then. That would be f***ed up if they hired her and yet let her husband go.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jun 2, 2021 11:40:38 GMT -5
Obviously all casualties of there likely only being one touring brand for a while
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 2, 2021 11:40:56 GMT -5
More from Fightful re: Ruby and Buddy:
"Among the other releases that we've heard about Ruby Riott's release definitely seemed to shake the WWE roster the most, based on those we spoke to. Riott was universally popular backstage, and commended for her hard work often. Much of the same case with Buddy Murphy, who we're told was not in the "creative forecast for WWE" of late. There were pitches for Murphy to team with Wesley Blake again before his release, but they were ultimately shot down. Murphy was said to be easy to work with, and generally receptive to creative."
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 2, 2021 11:41:52 GMT -5
How valuable is anyone in this environment?
This looks seriously like a good old-fashioned housecleaning. This isn't just "what's best for business" but possibly a huge culture shift in the company.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 11:42:12 GMT -5
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jun 2, 2021 11:43:25 GMT -5
More from Fightful re: Ruby and Buddy: "Among the other releases that we've heard about Ruby Riott's release definitely seemed to shake the WWE roster the most, based on those we spoke to. Riott was universally popular backstage, and commended for her hard work often. Much of the same case with Buddy Murphy, who we're told was not in the "creative forecast for WWE" of late. There were pitches for Murphy to team with Wesley Blake again before his release, but they were ultimately shot down. Murphy was said to be easy to work with, and generally receptive to creative." What witch did Wesley Blake curse to have all the bad luck?
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