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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 2, 2021 13:03:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I just don't see it, but if they bring him in and he delivers, fair play. I just think it'd be a strategic error on AEW's part if even for the perception of gobbling up WWE stars. If they're going to do it, they should let him run on the indies for a few months, build buzz and then sign him. Independent wrestler Braun Strowman would be hilarious after what he said last year. Don’t think he trashed the indies so much as those who started gofundme’s, still not a good look but I don’t recall him trashing Indy wrestling as a whole.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 13:03:14 GMT -5
The thing is, I think Braun would have been an absolute must-sign for AEW in its early days when LOL ALL PETITE WRESTLING was the primary criticism. But since then, guys like Wardlow, Bear Country, Archer, Vance, Miro, Brian Cage, Nick Comoroto, Hobbs, and even The Butcher have come in so there's not the hoss problem there once was.
Sure, I will grant that Braun is an objectively good hoss and has a ton of star quality, I just don't think he's as needed on the AEW roster as he once was, and I think that he's at a level that, if they bring him in, they'll have no choice but to give him the traditional "lolTNA" push. Just not sure it's worth the headache. At least not immediately.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 2, 2021 13:03:17 GMT -5
I defy anyone out there to tell me Vince still has any clue what he’s doing at this point. I think Vince has about 1% to do with this, he hired a businessman to streamline his company to turn better profits, whether that is to sell or just to increase the bottom line remains to be seen. Who has final say? Don’t insult my intelligence.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 2, 2021 13:03:49 GMT -5
I defy anyone out there to tell me Vince still has any clue what he’s doing at this point. These moves actually make perfect sense if he's planning to sell the company.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 2, 2021 13:03:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I just don't see it, but if they bring him in and he delivers, fair play. I just think it'd be a strategic error on AEW's part if even for the perception of gobbling up WWE stars. If they're going to do it, they should let him run on the indies for a few months, build buzz and then sign him. Independent wrestler Braun Strowman would be hilarious after what he said last year. Yeah, and some of that alone makes me think AEW won't touch him. He's not exactly a model citizen either.
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Post by Mecca on Jun 2, 2021 13:04:34 GMT -5
So now SRS and a former writer, Dave Schilling, are saying they think the WWE is for sale there is no other answer to what's going on.
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Post by mattyy on Jun 2, 2021 13:04:48 GMT -5
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Tommy End's going live in a second.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 2, 2021 13:05:00 GMT -5
Bring in Braun as John Silver's gigantic older brother.
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Post by Mecca on Jun 2, 2021 13:06:02 GMT -5
I think Vince has about 1% to do with this, he hired a businessman to streamline his company to turn better profits, whether that is to sell or just to increase the bottom line remains to be seen. Who has final say? Don’t insult my intelligence. When you tell a dude you hired to a major position to make moves because you want to sell your company, are you going to undercut him? Yea Vince has final say but I don't think Vince gives 2 shits about anyone but Vince, everyone is just a cog in the machine.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 2, 2021 13:06:11 GMT -5
Yeah, let’s not be silly here; Vince is still CEO and he still has to approve all decisions that happen. He wasn’t going to hire someone to run roughshot in his company without reporting to him about it.
Buck stops with him for this stuff, regardless of Khan’s growing position.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 2, 2021 13:06:18 GMT -5
Bring in Braun as John Silver's gigantic older brother. Braun Strowman plays John Silver after he opens up a can of spinach/grabs a power mushroom
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Post by spagett on Jun 2, 2021 13:06:32 GMT -5
Independent wrestler Braun Strowman would be hilarious after what he said last year. Don’t think he trashed the indies so much as those who started gofundme’s, still not a good look but I don’t recall him trashing Indy wrestling as a whole. Evil Uno made a post asking people to keep supporting indie wrestling if they could at the start of this horrible pandemic and Braun for no reason got involved, basically telling all indie wrestlers who were panicking at seeing all their dates cancelled they should go and get a job. As if they should have seen a once in a century global pandemic coming. It was horribly entitled and insensitive and he deserved all the criticism he got for it. I'm never glad to see someone lose a job, obvious exceptions like Joey Ryan and Marty Scurll etc, but Braun on the indy scene would be wild.
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Post by chazraps on Jun 2, 2021 13:06:46 GMT -5
Remember after Brodie Lee passed, and Braun took a fan's tribute painting of Bray, Strowman, Rowan and Cody waving to Brodie in Heaven, and then proceeded to not just remove Cody from the pic but remove the fan's signature from the painting? Not cropped, but outright blurred over? And then didn't credit the artist in any way?
Was that kind of a glimpse into Braun?
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 2, 2021 13:07:10 GMT -5
The thing is, I think Braun would have been an absolute must-sign for AEW in its early days when LOL ALL PETITE WRESTLING was the primary criticism. But since then, guys like Wardlow, Bear Country, Archer, Vance, Miro, Brian Cage, Nick Comoroto, Hobbs, and even The Butcher have come in so there's not the hoss problem there once was. Sure, I will grant that Braun is an objectively good hoss and has a ton of star quality, I just don't think he's as needed on the AEW roster as he once was, and I think that he's at a level that, if they bring him in, they'll have no choice but to give him the traditional "lolTNA" push. Just not sure it's worth the headache. At least not immediately. He’s vastly bigger than all of them so he’d give the matches he can have a new dynamic that the others cannot. Braun - 6’8 344 Wardlow- 6’2 267 Archer- 6’8 265 Vance- 6’2 240 Miro- 6’0 304 Cage- 6’0 272 Hobbs- 6’1 270
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Post by markymark on Jun 2, 2021 13:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by Mecca on Jun 2, 2021 13:09:22 GMT -5
Yeah, let’s not be silly here; Vince is still CEO and he still has to approve all decisions that happen. He wasn’t going to hire someone to run roughshot in his company without reporting to him about it. Buck stops with him for this stuff, regardless of Khan’s growing position. Certainly looks to me like this was a decision made awhile ago that they are going to fire a ton of people and they hired a man for that job.
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Post by An Dog On An Skateboard on Jun 2, 2021 13:09:59 GMT -5
It's not about not liking WWE, it's making it harder for people, both promoters and wrestlers, to make money on the UK scene without getting into bed with them, and then going "It's for your own good." It's so disingenuous to use Speaking Out to frame NXT as some sort of benevolent act because it isn't, it's there for WWE to salt the earth and make sure the UK indys can't gain momentum again. But does it matter? If the booker is WWE or some indie guy, as long as you have somewhere to work and, for the talent, at least a level of security and guaranteed money if you're a big enough name? I dont think most talent give a shit who they work for as long as they can get paid and potentially get to the US and the 'big leagues.' I doubt anyone wants to be a UK and only UK talent - and if they do, they could be that in NXT UK just as well as they could be 15 different tiny leagues with 0 exposure outside of the 200 people who could get a ticket to see you for the tiny show you're doing with an ancient WWF talent headlining. World of Sport was dead long before NXT UK arrived, despite fanfare, no one watched and no second series was being made. To suggest that closing something down that provides that exposure and that money is a good thing, to me, is wrong. It matters when, like I said a few posts back, WWE has decided that you're surplus to requirements and you now can't go back to work where you used to because a lot of those places are now under the WWE umbrella, or don't exist anymore.
The thing is, they were getting pretty decent exposure, ICW and Progress had both pulled bigger houses than WWE at various points and had become super indys, they weren't exactly nobodies, people were excited about Britwres for the first time in years and years until WWE came on the scene. It wasn't working holiday camp shows in front of a hundred children, it was regular sellouts and people actually caring about the shows, and now that's been ruined.
And regardless of whether they aspire to work in WWE or not, a thriving independent scene gave them option of earning a living without WWE, because not all of them will have wanted to move to the other side of the world to work for WWE, just like not every actor wants to act in Hollywood blockbusters and not every musician wants to sign to a major label. The problem is that WWE pretty much destroyed that, and World of Sport was hamstrung in no small part by WWE signing three quarters of the name talent on the indy scene.
So by basically destroying all of that WWE has backed British wrestlers into a corner, sign with us or starve, and even if you don't sign with them your career is dictated by them because they still decide who you can and can't work with, hence ZSJ and Chris Brookes and blokes like that throwing their lot in with NJPW and DDT. The only people who benefit from NXT UK long-term is the small handful of wrestlers who will carve out long-term WWE careers, and McMahon and Triple H, for everyone else it's a net loss long term.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 2, 2021 13:10:32 GMT -5
Agree to disagree. My perspective is that there's no world in which Braun is an instant main eventer in AEW. No way. Dude can barely move and their audience would reject the dude big time. Braun coming in and getting main events over Orange, Darby, Hangman, etc.? Everyone would lose their minds. Braun's knees are shot to shit, too. I don’t see Braun as particularly limited in the ring at all. He can move just fine and is very athletic. You’re making it sound like he’s Khali or Omos out there. He’s essentially modern day prime Big Show. We also just saw Strowman do a running flip off the apron at Backlash... I don't get the "he can't move" argument at all. Bring in Braun as John Silver's gigantic older brother. I mena Strowman and Brodie used to be "brothers" >_>
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 13:10:39 GMT -5
Seems he's done with this WWE chapter for good. Doubt he'd wanna return there.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jun 2, 2021 13:10:47 GMT -5
My phones about to die so I can’t watch for much longer, but Black’s chatting on Zelina’s Twitch and of course is going the hyper-classy route.
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