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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 7, 2022 10:27:25 GMT -5
I'm honestly starting to wonder if we could see Triple H gone from WWE soon. I know the idea of this happening for the longest time was laughable, but now it almost feels like it is something that could happen. Doubtful. Even if completely stripped of any influence at all, he'll still draw a check (and maybe be given some sort of minor, unimportant busywork to justify it), unless Steph also decides to walk away (and I can't see that happening as long as Vince is still in charge).
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Post by mistery on Jan 7, 2022 10:33:47 GMT -5
They sent some talent over like Bea and a couple of others a few times. Also the whole thing ended up imploding because Tony absolutely refused to let Riho eat a pin or submission while she was in STARDOM, which made booking her a nightmare. And this was even after she lost the AEW Women's title. Which put STARDOM in a bad spot, because Riho held one of their titles at the time, and ended up having to take it off of her through a triple threat match, which is something they very rarely do. What's the source on this? Were there ever confirmed reports of this backstage tension or Riho being overprotected? Or is this just the assumption because Riho was booked strong and didn't lose the belt in the triple threat? Rossy alluded to it on a livestream he did with Emi Sakura about a year ago. Also the guy who does a lot of the English work for STARDOM pretty much said it plainly on his personal twitter account at one point that working with AEW was a nightmare because Tony wouldn't let Riho straight up lose in a 1 on 1 match even after she had lost the AEW Women's Title.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 7, 2022 10:36:08 GMT -5
What's the source on this? Were there ever confirmed reports of this backstage tension or Riho being overprotected? Or is this just the assumption because Riho was booked strong and didn't lose the belt in the triple threat? Rossy alluded to it on a livestream he did with Emi Sakura about a year ago. Also the guy who does a lot of the English work for STARDOM pretty much said it plainly on his personal twitter account at one point that working with AEW was a nightmare because Tony wouldn't let Riho straight up lose in a 1 on 1 match even after she had lost the AEW Women's Title. Interesting, maybe it's because it was so early on in the companies history. He doesn't seem to have as big of an issue with that now.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 7, 2022 10:36:55 GMT -5
Sapp is reporting that all the Performance Center sources he's spoken to fully expect Samoa Joe to return to in-ring action outside of WWE. There's suddenly some speculation going around that Joe's been pretty healthy of late and WWE simply took him out of the ring back when they had him give up the NXT belt. No clue if that's even remotely accurate, Joe's injury history is well documented, but there's at least a trend of late of WWE not wanting to clear a lot of people to wrestle who then go on to show they're pretty much fine, albeit on reduced schedules (e.g. Edge doing fine in WWE, Christian doing fine in AEW, how long Bryan's comeback took, etc.). Seems they'll only end up letting them back in the ring if they hear they're getting offers from elsewhere (e.g. AEW making Edge an offer when he was coming back), or just let them go/cut them. If that's indeed the case, I have years and years of matches I've been dying to see Joe have with people all around the current scene that I hope he's at least able to do a few of, from the obvious Joe vs. Punk IV potential to Joe working with some of the talent that's exploded around the Japanese scene in the last decade. After thinking it through some more, I might be the only person in the world who doesn't want Joe/Punk IV. It was a trilogy for a reason. They're both older now and I don't see who it benefits for them to risk putting a damper on what is literally one of the best trilogies in independent wrestling history. If you want to do a tag match or some other multi-man match where we get a staredown, great. I just think the risk/reward isn't there from a match quality standpoint. If they run it, I get it and I'll watch it, but I just think some things are best left alone. That said, I'd be totally down for Joe to kind of usurp Taz and take over Team Taz, leading to Hook w/Taz feuding with Starks and Hobbs w/Joe. I think Joe's best use right now is as a veteran who can mix it up but also doesn't wrestle full time.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 7, 2022 10:40:35 GMT -5
If the success of AEW is one of the reasons for all the releases, then Dave Meltzer must be patting himself on the back.
It was a tweet from Meltzer in 2017 that began the chain of events leading to the birth of AEW.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 7, 2022 10:40:46 GMT -5
I'm honestly starting to wonder if we could see Triple H gone from WWE soon. I know the idea of this happening for the longest time was laughable, but now it almost feels like it is something that could happen. Doubtful. Even if completely stripped of any influence at all, he'll still draw a check (and maybe be given some sort of minor, unimportant busywork to justify it), unless Steph also decides to walk away (and I can't see that happening as long as Vince is still in charge). He's on the board of directors too which, basically, gives him more power to fire Nick Khan than Nick Khan would to get rid of him. It'd be complicated to do and I doubt any of the other members would take considering all the profits but it's possible.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 7, 2022 10:45:09 GMT -5
Doubtful. Even if completely stripped of any influence at all, he'll still draw a check (and maybe be given some sort of minor, unimportant busywork to justify it), unless Steph also decides to walk away (and I can't see that happening as long as Vince is still in charge). He's on the board of directors too which, basically, gives him more power to fire Nick Khan than Nick Khan would to get rid of him. It'd be complicated to do and I doubt any of the other members would take considering all the profits but it's possible. He's just not going to go anywhere. He may be pissed off, but I also wonder *how* pissed. I mentioned earlier that I thought he might be viewed as a failure, but the other side of that coin is that he could also be looked at as a cult hero that is being wronged. We're a long way from how much people hated him in the early 2000's. He has a cushy job, a beautiful wife, kids and thankfully it seems he's on the mend after the heart attack. He may be looking at everything like "yeah, I'm good."
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jan 7, 2022 10:54:34 GMT -5
About Regal. I'm catching up on NXT UK and I'm still confused by his release that I forgot his kid is on the show. I wonder what happens there? I'm sure he'll be professional, but damn he's got to be pissed about his Dad.
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Post by markymark on Jan 7, 2022 11:10:02 GMT -5
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 7, 2022 11:44:58 GMT -5
THIS WAS FIVE MONTHS AGO. Since then: *The two wrestlers in the match being hyped left at the end of their contracts and are back to being aligned with each other in AEW *The boss of the brand got let go *The entire brand itself got a colourful reboot that has gotten mixed reviews *The entire squadron of security guards are TV regulars *One of those security guards is now the NXT Champion FIVE. MONTHS.
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Post by Fade on Jan 7, 2022 11:51:37 GMT -5
THIS WAS FIVE MONTHS AGO. Since then: *The two wrestlers in the match being hyped left at the end of their contracts and are back to being aligned with each other in AEW *The boss of the brand got let go *The entire brand itself got a colourful reboot that has gotten mixed reviews *The entire squadron of security guards are TV regulars *One of those security guards is now the NXT Champion FIVE. MONTHS. That’s a modern-day renaissance painting.
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Post by Legion on Jan 7, 2022 11:57:21 GMT -5
Sapp is reporting that all the Performance Center sources he's spoken to fully expect Samoa Joe to return to in-ring action outside of WWE. There's suddenly some speculation going around that Joe's been pretty healthy of late and WWE simply took him out of the ring back when they had him give up the NXT belt. No clue if that's even remotely accurate, Joe's injury history is well documented, but there's at least a trend of late of WWE not wanting to clear a lot of people to wrestle who then go on to show they're pretty much fine, albeit on reduced schedules (e.g. Edge doing fine in WWE, Christian doing fine in AEW, how long Bryan's comeback took, etc.). Seems they'll only end up letting them back in the ring if they hear they're getting offers from elsewhere (e.g. AEW making Edge an offer when he was coming back), or just let them go/cut them. If that's indeed the case, I have years and years of matches I've been dying to see Joe have with people all around the current scene that I hope he's at least able to do a few of, from the obvious Joe vs. Punk IV potential to Joe working with some of the talent that's exploded around the Japanese scene in the last decade. That's being phrased in a really negative way though. Do we really want to condone some of these people really pushing themselves to return, only to be shells of themselves, or worse, get re-injured and it be much worse next time? I know it's the fashion to bash everything WWE does and see everything in the worst possible and most cynical light, but sometimes, whatever the reason, when they stop people, they might just be doing it for the person's own good. I dont want to know I've enjoyed a Samoa Joe match that happens later this year, only to find out in 5 years the man has serious concussion issues because he kept coming back, or getting people to let him come back, long after he should have stopped. WWE may be playing it super safe, but sometimes safe is actually the right thing to do, especially after they got bit so hard by Benoit.
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Post by lionheart21 on Jan 7, 2022 12:01:16 GMT -5
Not shocked in the slightest. I imagine that Regal was like a father figure to many of them. Also, just look at the reaction from us here on the forums. We don't know this man personally, and yet its affected us because of how influential that he's been for the wrestling business. Can't even imagine how it must feel for those who have had their careers directed affected by his presence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 12:24:22 GMT -5
I said it in that other thread but I used to think that Triple H could never be fired but that's changed based on these past 2 years. So much has happened these past few but more than that over the past decade his position in the company's changed so much. He gained so much power and in that same amount of time, he's lost so much. Just type in "Triple H promotion" in Google and you'll see these numerous behind-the-scenes promotions he's had since like what, 2010. I mean, he went from Vince's successor to a guy a guy taking NXT over which in turn surpassed the main roster from a character/storyline/workrate/hype aspect to the point where USA bought it which is huge. He did everything you'd expect, he had a resume. Vince started to do that whole "lemme ruin what ya love" thing and these past 2 years turned Triple H from "next up to bat" to "Vince's son-in-law" and nah, that's wild. Man is so ruthless that even after dude had a heart attack he still kept hitting Trips where he's hurt.
We used to have the "man Trips made NXT and he's got a foothold on the company with his people, he won't be let go" excuse to use but now you can't use that. All you have is "he's part of Vince's family" now and that doesn't mean a thing to Vince it seems because once Vince dies, given how things are setup, that just means it'll go to who's next in Vince's camp. Vince doesn't even care about family that much, I mean look at the whole Shane stuff.
This attack is so blatant that I don't even think the biggest WWE lovers can deny that Trip's being punched in the gut.
Basically, Triple H's position in the company isn't as impervious as we thought and that goes double when the guy breaking it is his father-in-law.
Let alone, that's just shameful. Imagine his kids hearing this stuff about how their dad is being treated by their grandfather and all that stuff. Eventually Trips is gonna have to do something for his own sanity. Tbh, even if that is your father-in-law, you can't be letting this happen. He's a smart man, he's probably got a plan that we don't know about but overall from a sanity standpoint. If he won't get fire I can see him walking away, I me yeah I can see that. Just, think about this.
We all have worked jobs we hated. Now, imagine if your father-in-law ran that job, imagine you had a heart attack, imagine your father-in-law's making that job worse for you and imagine that you still gotta go to work in the morning. Bruh, I don't know about yall but I wouldn't be able to handle that.
He's a stronger man than me. I'd be putting paws on that dude lmao. Like bruh, I just had a heart attack and you're trying to make my job worse? Nah old man, we gon have to TALK.
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Post by Legion on Jan 7, 2022 12:26:42 GMT -5
I doubt Hunter is going to get fired, but could he walk away - yeah, that I could see.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 7, 2022 12:31:20 GMT -5
He's on the board of directors too which, basically, gives him more power to fire Nick Khan than Nick Khan would to get rid of him. It'd be complicated to do and I doubt any of the other members would take considering all the profits but it's possible. He's just not going to go anywhere. He may be pissed off, but I also wonder *how* pissed. I mentioned earlier that I thought he might be viewed as a failure, but the other side of that coin is that he could also be looked at as a cult hero that is being wronged. We're a long way from how much people hated him in the early 2000's. He has a cushy job, a beautiful wife, kids and thankfully it seems he's on the mend after the heart attack. He may be looking at everything like "yeah, I'm good." If I were him, I’d likely stay on the board because, well, it might all still backfire on Nick Khan and if they’re going to sell at some point, he can find a way in considering he’d be someone knowledgeable about the business whilst Khan, likely, rides off into the sunset after a job well done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 12:33:02 GMT -5
THIS WAS FIVE MONTHS AGO. Since then: *The two wrestlers in the match being hyped left at the end of their contracts and are back to being aligned with each other in AEW *The boss of the brand got let go *The entire brand itself got a colourful reboot that has gotten mixed reviews *The entire squadron of security guards are TV regulars *One of those security guards is now the NXT Champion FIVE. MONTHS. This is one of those "hey guys this is wild" wrestling pics. Like that one with the Rosebuds.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 7, 2022 12:33:57 GMT -5
Is this the longest thread in FAN History? The Snyderverse one is longer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 12:42:08 GMT -5
He's just not going to go anywhere. He may be pissed off, but I also wonder *how* pissed. I mentioned earlier that I thought he might be viewed as a failure, but the other side of that coin is that he could also be looked at as a cult hero that is being wronged. We're a long way from how much people hated him in the early 2000's. He has a cushy job, a beautiful wife, kids and thankfully it seems he's on the mend after the heart attack. He may be looking at everything like "yeah, I'm good." If I were him, I’d likely stay on the board because, well, it might all still backfire on Nick Khan and if they’re going to sell at some point, he can find a way in considering he’d be someone knowledgeable about the business whilst Khan, likely, rides off into the sunset after a job well done. Of all the choices he could make as far as purely making a business choice the worst one would be to walk away. Because I have been saying it there is still a very likely chance that Stephanie ends up chairman of the board and if that happens that is HHH automatically back in power even by proxy and the goon troop are f***ed. The Goon troop are so concerned with f***ing over HHH that I doubt it has even come to their empty heads that Stephanie as chairman is a much bigger an stronger play then simply HHH as CEO or whatever because she will then dictate the overall direction of the company and can fire whoever the CEO ends up being whether that be Khan or whoever. He should just ride this out yea it f***ing sucks a seering suns right now but the end of the tunnel may just be worth this shitty journey right now.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 7, 2022 13:00:42 GMT -5
I doubt Hunter is going to get fired, but could he walk away - yeah, that I could see. I think the odds are bigger of Triple H being fired than walking out on a cushy job that pays more than anything else he could do. He could be fired because there is always the chance Vince sells WWE or Khan takes overand for some reason or other he is fired. Sure the chances of either happening are absurdly small
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