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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 2, 2021 15:08:52 GMT -5
Also apparently the Mat Men podcast is saying that basically NXT Uk is a gonner, they asked some talent if they wanted to come to the states, if you weren't asked or said no you're getting the ax shortly. Wouldn't be shocked. I cannot fully comment on NXT UK as a product as aside from. Their Takeovers I haven't really watched. But I do get the impression that it did not take off as WWE had hoped
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 2, 2021 15:08:54 GMT -5
Things change when you hire a businessman to make as much profit as possible. You keep stuff like the PC around to entice talent to come to your company and to train with, in theory, the best trainers in the world. All businesses do this. You think Google, Facebook etc have the kind of work places they do because they’re profitable? Having another FCW to have talent go to isn’t going to do it ever again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 15:10:42 GMT -5
Also apparently the Mat Men podcast is saying that basically NXT Uk is a gonner, they asked some talent if they wanted to come to the states, if you weren't asked or said no you're getting the ax shortly. If that’s true that means WALTER will likely be released, as he’s made clear that he’s not especially interested in coming to the US full-time. Not to wildly speculate, but imagine some of the matches he could have in NJPW...
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Post by mattperiolat on Jun 2, 2021 15:12:08 GMT -5
My heart sinks for two reasons - one, dammit, Ruby had a lot to offer in ring, but was not pushed or booked right when healthy. And that’s the worst. Two, Bayley isn’t safe either. Becky, Sasha, Bianca, Rhonda and Charlotte are essential. Bayley... I dunno... and that is f***ing heartbreaking to suddenly realize some who like as a wrestler and care about a person is expendable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 15:12:24 GMT -5
I also wish Lana the best of luck wherever she ends up as well, whether it's in wrestling or not. Say what you will about her as a performer, but she tried her best to improve and make the shitty material they've given her work.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 15:13:07 GMT -5
There is no way this happens. NXT is a loss leader. That would be breaking off one of your least profitable departments and sending it on its own. yeah, the entire point of NXT and some of the expense built into it is the Performance Center... to build stars up for the WWE. The only way it could happen si if the PC isn't part of the deal. That last part is what I am saying. I am not including the PC in this...I am simply talking about NXT as in the IP and whatever contracts are tied to it that HHH is given while the rest of the WWE is sold off to whoever. He takes the NXT brand and uses whatever capital between he and stephanie and makes it its own company with the guys and gals he has right now is something I don't think is completely out of the realm of possibility if WWE were to be up for sale.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 15:13:54 GMT -5
Seems a lot of people are thinking they're going on sale too. I'm listening to WrestlingInc's speculation and even they think that so yeah, I guess it could really be happening given a lot of sites are thinking it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 2, 2021 15:14:47 GMT -5
yeah, the entire point of NXT and some of the expense built into it is the Performance Center... to build stars up for the WWE. The only way it could happen si if the PC isn't part of the deal. That last part is what I am saying. I am not including the PC in this...I am simply talking about NXT as in the IP and whatever contracts are tied to it that HHH is given while the rest of the WWE is sold off to whoever. He takes the NXT brand and uses whatever capital between he and stephanie and makes it its own company with the guys and gals he has right now is something I don't think is completely out of the realm of possibility if WWE were to be up for sale. There is absolutely no chance this happens. Like, so much of a zero chance, I’ll change my user name to “eJm is joining HHH’s new NXT” if it happens.
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Post by Chiral on Jun 2, 2021 15:15:17 GMT -5
That'd be the most f***ing bizarre twist in wrestling if NXT ends up sold off/spun off into its own company with HHH running it, but it'd probably be best for NXT overall lest they just become another checkbox of things that can be axed to save money.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 15:16:09 GMT -5
Even if WWE were willing to sell him the assets - which I highly doubt - I have an extremely hard time seeing Triple H being interested in sinking some of his own money into setting up a separate company. Like, I will confidently say that that will never happen.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 2, 2021 15:16:12 GMT -5
NXT has a tv deal, its a brand of WWE,why would they sell it?
And without WWE ,it wont have a TV Deal,why would Triple H buy a company with no tv deal?
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Post by Moppy on Jun 2, 2021 15:16:18 GMT -5
Obviously lots to catch up on here but I just can't comprehend that VINCENT K MCMAHON doesn't want BRAUN STROWMAN on his talent roster.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jun 2, 2021 15:16:20 GMT -5
Things change when you hire a businessman to make as much profit as possible. You keep stuff like the PC around to entice talent to come to your company and to train with, in theory, the best trainers in the world. All businesses do this. You think Google, Facebook etc have the kind of work places they do because they’re profitable? Having another FCW to have talent go to isn’t going to do it ever again. Why? There's no real reason it wouldn't. WWE has been completely unaffected by hiring indie darlings over OVW types. The 1.5 million people still watching probably won't be repelled by more Cenas and less Bryans.
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Post by The Warthog on Jun 2, 2021 15:16:26 GMT -5
I also wish Lana the best of luck wherever she ends up as well, whether it's in wrestling or not. Say what you will about her as a performer, but she tried her best to improve and make the shitty material they've given her work. Wonder if there's a chance that AEW would bring her in to manage Miro?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 2, 2021 15:19:09 GMT -5
yeah, the entire point of NXT and some of the expense built into it is the Performance Center... to build stars up for the WWE. The only way it could happen si if the PC isn't part of the deal. What if Khan is making the argument that it isn't producing stars? Guys get called up and not used or do nothing, more former NXT champions have been released than have gone on to win much of anything to be honest. It is a discussion they likely will have. I remember when the PC was announced, I think its easy to forget how ambitious of a project it was. And if they wanted to make changes in how NXT and the PC operate they could very easily say not only are we not producing the stars promised but we also have all these wrestlers signed that aren't even close to being on TV for NXT let alone Raw or Smackdown. So I don't think NXT would be dismantled or sold (aside from releasing talent unfortunately) but I could see NXT being revamped completely if cost cutting continues
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 2, 2021 15:19:29 GMT -5
You keep stuff like the PC around to entice talent to come to your company and to train with, in theory, the best trainers in the world. All businesses do this. You think Google, Facebook etc have the kind of work places they do because they’re profitable? Having another FCW to have talent go to isn’t going to do it ever again. Why? There's no real reason it wouldn't. WWE has been completely unaffected by hiring indie darlings over OVW types. The 1.5 million people still watching probably won't be repelled by more Cenas and less Bryans. Not even about viewership, it’s about the talent themselves. A lot of people I know who are wrestlers look at the PC and dream of going there and experiencing it. It’s a major selling point for talent who want to go to WWE right now and it’s not a coincidence that more talent have gone to tryouts then they did before because of how great the facility is. If they don’t have that, well, what makes their way of potentially building talent different from AEWs?
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Post by dpg on Jun 2, 2021 15:20:03 GMT -5
Also apparently the Mat Men podcast is saying that basically NXT Uk is a gonner, they asked some talent if they wanted to come to the states, if you weren't asked or said no you're getting the ax shortly. Wouldn't be shocked. I cannot fully comment on NXT UK as a product as aside from. Their Takeovers I haven't really watched. But I do get the impression that it did not take off as WWE had hoped NXT UK events generally draw ok crowds, in UK wrestling scene terms. But that's nowhere near enough to cover a roster far larger than UK promotions usually have. And the attendances were dropping rather than improving before Covid. It was never going to make money, and also pretty obvious that most talent signed were never going to the main shows.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 2, 2021 15:21:43 GMT -5
Wouldn't be shocked. I cannot fully comment on NXT UK as a product as aside from. Their Takeovers I haven't really watched. But I do get the impression that it did not take off as WWE had hoped NXT UK events generally draw ok crowds, in UK wrestling scene terms. But that's nowhere near enough to cover a roster far larger than UK promotions usually have. And the attendances were dropping rather than improving before Covid. It was never going to make money, and also pretty obvious that most talent signed were never going to the main shows. A big problem was that they kept booking shows near established events. The last NXT UK taping was the weekend of WXW’s annual 16 Carat tournament. If you live in Europe, a wrestling fan and can afford it, you’re going to that weekend.
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Post by dpg on Jun 2, 2021 15:21:48 GMT -5
Why? There's no real reason it wouldn't. WWE has been completely unaffected by hiring indie darlings over OVW types. The 1.5 million people still watching probably won't be repelled by more Cenas and less Bryans. Not even about viewership, it’s about the talent themselves. A lot of people I know who are wrestlers look at the PC and dream of going there and experiencing it. It’s a major selling point for talent who want to go to WWE right now and it’s not a coincidence that more talent have gone to tryouts then they did before because of how great the facility is. If they don’t have that, well, what makes their way of potentially building talent different from AEWs? PC and NXT are going nowhere, but they could be severely cut back.
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Post by dpg on Jun 2, 2021 15:22:46 GMT -5
NXT UK events generally draw ok crowds, in UK wrestling scene terms. But that's nowhere near enough to cover a roster far larger than UK promotions usually have. And the attendances were dropping rather than improving before Covid. It was never going to make money, and also pretty obvious that most talent signed were never going to the main shows. A big problem was that they kept booking shows near established events. The last NXT UK taping was the weekend of WXW’s annual 16 Carat tournament. If you live in Europe, a wrestling fan and can afford it, you’re going to that weekend. Its obvious they wanted to eat into events like that, but it wasn't working.
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