Sicho100
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Post by Sicho100 on Jun 2, 2021 16:13:45 GMT -5
While WWE looking to sell certainly seems to be the case, the biggest thing is it feels like NBC in particular would have a very hard time actually making substantial money off of it. You'd basically be cutting off two of its primary revenue streams in that they'd just be giving themselves the money for Raw, NXT, and the Network, and SmackDown would likely not stay on Fox after its contract ran out which would be a big income hit itself. Having the NBC brand behind it directly would likely elevate the company's potential ad revenue, but I'm not really sure if it'd necessarily do so enough to justify NBC having to bring all of the expenses in-house while also eventually losing the Fox money. Granted NBC has a long history of stupid shortsighted investments that blow up spectacularly so... Buying it would make it so that they don’t have to pay for the TV deals (and Peacock deal, etc.) in perpetuity. They wouldn’t need to negotiate how many billions of dollars to pay WWE for the next X years…they would just have the shows. WWE’s current TV deals (Raw & SD combined) are over $2 billion for five years (and the Peacock deal was another billion.) Given that rights fees have only gone up, and WWE’s current market value being a bit over four billion - buying WWE could cost less than another decade or so of rights fees for NBC.
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Derk!
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Yeah, "looks like."
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Post by Derk! on Jun 2, 2021 16:15:39 GMT -5
Super shocked about Braun. Dude seemed like he would have a job as long as he wanted to....
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 2, 2021 16:16:25 GMT -5
Has there been any more people after the ones on page 10? My suggestion would be to have the full list added to the OP. So far, I haven't seen any new names yet.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 2, 2021 16:17:56 GMT -5
Punker ain't wrong. If there's something that really sticks out to me about WWE compared with most of the other promotions going right now, even smaller ones like GCW, it just feels like they couldn't be much further away from the pulse of where a lot of the viewing public is at right now, which is kind of how I interpret the whole "in a language no one understands now" line since WWE is so rigid in how it presents storylines, characters, and feuds.
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nisidhe
Hank Scorpio
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 2, 2021 16:18:05 GMT -5
It's occurred to me that there might be a reason why they called the PC during NXT broadcasts the "Capital Wrestling Center."
What if, and this is only a thought, WWE was sold to another company _but_ the WWE titles and their histories remained with, say, NXT as part of that company's title lineage?
The Universal title is relatively recent, but the WWE title dates back in an unbroken line to 1963 and, if one follows the lineage back through the NWA territories (where the World heavyweight title was a commonality among the territories), that lineage goes back to 1948 and that even before.
Before WWE, Inc. was TitanSports, it was known as the Capitol Wrestling Corporation, Ltd. What are the odds that the McMahons' plan involves selling WWE, but possibly without certain assets that they can then use to rebuild as CWC?
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Perd
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Post by Perd on Jun 2, 2021 16:19:42 GMT -5
Hard to wrap my head around the idea of Vince selling. But it does feel like something is brewing. I mean, they just made the deal to move the network to Peacock. What if they were bought by Amazon? How would that work? So much of WWE’s value is wrapped up in the amount of content they can provide. And a lot of that is already tied up in other deals.
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salz4life
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Post by salz4life on Jun 2, 2021 16:22:41 GMT -5
My heart sinks for two reasons - one, dammit, Ruby had a lot to offer in ring, but was not pushed or booked right when healthy. And that’s the worst. Two, Bayley isn’t safe either. Becky, Sasha, Bianca, Rhonda and Charlotte are essential. Bayley... I dunno... and that is f***ing heartbreaking to suddenly realize some who like as a wrestler and care about a person is expendable. Unfortunately, I agree with you..... however, WWE releasing Bayley could possibly be the best thing to happen to her. After her run as a total "white meat" babyface, I didn't think I could buy her as a heel. She changed my mind and would be a damn near top dog in ANY other company.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 2, 2021 16:23:41 GMT -5
Speaking of released talent, Drake Wuertz did his first interview since being released (transcription is from Fightful):
Speaking on Fireside Chat, Wuertz opened up about his release.
"I was expecting it. My heart had not been in it for the past six months. It got to the point where I didn't feel right about the atmosphere and I was just coming to work for the paycheck. When it gets to that point, it's time to step away. I went into work to go to Terry Taylor's class and was called into the office. Canyon Ceman let me know I was being let go. It wasn't surprising. They let me go say goodbye to the coaches I was closest with, Terry Taylor and Matt Bloom. It was bittersweet because I spent more time there than I did my own family," he said. "It wasn't my performance. My performance never wavered and the trust in the ring never wavered. I was frequently requested by top talent."
Wuertz worked the NXT show the day before his release and made sure to note that he wasn't wearing a mask when he entered the Performance Center the day of his release.
When asked when he started to feel a shift in how those in WWE looked at him, Wuertz replied, "November, right around the election. It all started with woke cancel culture that just wants to attack people because they have views they don't agree with. It started specifically with me and WWE was when David Bixenspan started attacking me. That's when the ball got rolling."
Bixenspan wrote an in-depth article looking at Wuertz' outside activities in WWE, which you can read by clicking here.
Wuertz stated he is not part of QAnon, never endorsed QAnon, doesn't believe in conspiracy theories, has no affiliation with the Proud Boys.
After his release, Fightful reported Wuertz was "either formally or informally suspended earlier in 2021 and was not permitted at the Performance Center for several weeks."
Wuertz explained his suspension, saying, "A month before WrestleMania, I get a call from my department head, Scott Armstrong, who says, 'Somebody tested positive at work, we're asking everyone to quarantine.' I called him back and was like, 'I have stuff to do. I'm not sick. I tested negative. I haven't been around anyone.' I told him I had church, the Walk For Life, and I coach my son's baseball team. Those responsibilities were more important to me than pleasing WWE. I told him, 'No, I'm not staying home.' I got a call saying, 'You're off TV for two weeks, you violated quarantine.' 'For going to church?' They refused to answer."
Wuertz said he is not a COVID denier and admitted that he tested positive for COVID, but didn't experience any symptoms.
"Of course I believe in COVID. My grandparents have both had it. I caught it for a little bit. A whole chunk of the roster caught it. I didn't have any symptoms, the only reason I knew I had it is because they stick the stick up our nose two times a week," he said.
When asked about his future, Wuertz said, "I wouldn't say that my time in wrestling business is done, but the days of that being my entire existence is behind me."
Wuertz is scheduled to return to the ring under his Independent name Drake Younger on June 26.
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salz4life
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Post by salz4life on Jun 2, 2021 16:24:31 GMT -5
I know we're still a couple months away from getting fans back at WWE shows, but man ALOT of fan favorites have been released or not treated that well lately. I'm just wondering after the first SD and RAW with fans what crowd reactions will be like. Cause before the pandemic hit crowds weren't exactly on even medium heat most show lol. I think the first couple weeks will be hot simply because they haven't seen live action. But then what?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 16:25:09 GMT -5
Speaking of released talent, Drake Wuertz did his first interview since being released (transcription is from Fightful): Speaking on Fireside Chat, Wuertz opened up about his release. "I was expecting it. My heart had not been in it for the past six months. It got to the point where I didn't feel right about the atmosphere and I was just coming to work for the paycheck. When it gets to that point, it's time to step away. I went into work to go to Terry Taylor's class and was called into the office. Canyon Ceman let me know I was being let go. It wasn't surprising. They let me go say goodbye to the coaches I was closest with, Terry Taylor and Matt Bloom. It was bittersweet because I spent more time there than I did my own family," he said. "It wasn't my performance. My performance never wavered and the trust in the ring never wavered. I was frequently requested by top talent." Wuertz worked the NXT show the day before his release and made sure to note that he wasn't wearing a mask when he entered the Performance Center the day of his release. When asked when he started to feel a shift in how those in WWE looked at him, Wuertz replied, "November, right around the election. It all started with woke cancel culture that just wants to attack people because they have views they don't agree with. It started specifically with me and WWE was when David Bixenspan started attacking me. That's when the ball got rolling." Bixenspan wrote an in-depth article looking at Wuertz' outside activities in WWE, which you can read by clicking here. Wuertz stated he is not part of QAnon, never endorsed QAnon, doesn't believe in conspiracy theories, has no affiliation with the Proud Boys. After his release, Fightful reported Wuertz was "either formally or informally suspended earlier in 2021 and was not permitted at the Performance Center for several weeks." Wuertz explained his suspension, saying, "A month before WrestleMania, I get a call from my department head, Scott Armstrong, who says, 'Somebody tested positive at work, we're asking everyone to quarantine.' I called him back and was like, 'I have stuff to do. I'm not sick. I tested negative. I haven't been around anyone.' I told him I had church, the Walk For Life, and I coach my son's baseball team. Those responsibilities were more important to me than pleasing WWE. I told him, 'No, I'm not staying home.' I got a call saying, 'You're off TV for two weeks, you violated quarantine.' 'For going to church?' They refused to answer." Wuertz said he is not a COVID denier and admitted that he tested positive for COVID, but didn't experience any symptoms. "Of course I believe in COVID. My grandparents have both had it. I caught it for a little bit. A whole chunk of the roster caught it. I didn't have any symptoms, the only reason I knew I had it is because they stick the stick up our nose two times a week," he said. When asked about his future, Wuertz said, "I wouldn't say that my time in wrestling business is done, but the days of that being my entire existence is behind me." Wuertz is scheduled to return to the ring under his Independent name Drake Younger on June 26. Of course he blamed "cancel culture." What a f***ing loser.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 2, 2021 16:25:21 GMT -5
I know people are reading the tea leaves, but I can't see many situations where an egomaniacal control freak like Vince McMahon would sell WWE to anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 16:27:21 GMT -5
I know people are reading the tea leaves, but I can't see many situations where an egomaniacal control freak like Vince McMahon would sell WWE to anyone. Only reasons I can see it is if Vince knows he doesn't have much time left, he's finally bored with wrestling or if he had an epiphany and realized that he'd rather spend time doing something else which, in turn, could be similar to the other reasons. Basically he gotta be done with this wrestling stuff.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 2, 2021 16:29:32 GMT -5
Wuertz stated he is not part of QAnon, never endorsed QAnon, doesn't believe in conspiracy theories, has no affiliation with the Proud Boys. Oh cool, so that speech you made at a town hall, the charity you raised money for with QAnon connections and the anti-mask rhetoric you said in the past year were all just coincidences I guess. Good to know.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 2, 2021 16:30:54 GMT -5
I know people are reading the tea leaves, but I can't see many situations where an egomaniacal control freak like Vince McMahon would sell WWE to anyone. Only reasons I can see it is if Vince knows he doesn't have much time left, he's finally bored with wrestling or if he had an epiphany and realized that he'd rather spend time doing something else which, in turn, could be similar to the other reasons. Basically he gotta be done with this wrestling stuff. He'd also have to have zero faith in his kids and Triple H to continue the family business.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 2, 2021 16:31:54 GMT -5
Speaking of released talent, Drake Wuertz did his first interview since being released (transcription is from Fightful): Speaking on Fireside Chat, Wuertz opened up about his release. "I was expecting it. My heart had not been in it for the past six months. It got to the point where I didn't feel right about the atmosphere and I was just coming to work for the paycheck. When it gets to that point, it's time to step away. I went into work to go to Terry Taylor's class and was called into the office. Canyon Ceman let me know I was being let go. It wasn't surprising. They let me go say goodbye to the coaches I was closest with, Terry Taylor and Matt Bloom. It was bittersweet because I spent more time there than I did my own family," he said. "It wasn't my performance. My performance never wavered and the trust in the ring never wavered. I was frequently requested by top talent." Wuertz worked the NXT show the day before his release and made sure to note that he wasn't wearing a mask when he entered the Performance Center the day of his release. When asked when he started to feel a shift in how those in WWE looked at him, Wuertz replied, "November, right around the election. It all started with woke cancel culture that just wants to attack people because they have views they don't agree with. It started specifically with me and WWE was when David Bixenspan started attacking me. That's when the ball got rolling." Bixenspan wrote an in-depth article looking at Wuertz' outside activities in WWE, which you can read by clicking here. Wuertz stated he is not part of QAnon, never endorsed QAnon, doesn't believe in conspiracy theories, has no affiliation with the Proud Boys. After his release, Fightful reported Wuertz was "either formally or informally suspended earlier in 2021 and was not permitted at the Performance Center for several weeks." Wuertz explained his suspension, saying, "A month before WrestleMania, I get a call from my department head, Scott Armstrong, who says, 'Somebody tested positive at work, we're asking everyone to quarantine.' I called him back and was like, 'I have stuff to do. I'm not sick. I tested negative. I haven't been around anyone.' I told him I had church, the Walk For Life, and I coach my son's baseball team. Those responsibilities were more important to me than pleasing WWE. I told him, 'No, I'm not staying home.' I got a call saying, 'You're off TV for two weeks, you violated quarantine.' 'For going to church?' They refused to answer." Wuertz said he is not a COVID denier and admitted that he tested positive for COVID, but didn't experience any symptoms. "Of course I believe in COVID. My grandparents have both had it. I caught it for a little bit. A whole chunk of the roster caught it. I didn't have any symptoms, the only reason I knew I had it is because they stick the stick up our nose two times a week," he said. When asked about his future, Wuertz said, "I wouldn't say that my time in wrestling business is done, but the days of that being my entire existence is behind me." Wuertz is scheduled to return to the ring under his Independent name Drake Younger on June 26. Of course he blamed "cancel culture." What a f***ing loser. Part of me thinks/hopes that the change may help get the crazy out of Drake wishful thinking of course bur maybe getting away from some influences in that area will help him.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jun 2, 2021 16:31:58 GMT -5
I know people are reading the tea leaves, but I can't see many situations where an egomaniacal control freak like Vince McMahon would sell WWE to anyone. I’d say George Lucas was even more protective of Star Wars than Vince is of WWE but he sold. The right combo of timing and price, anyone will sell.
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Jun 2, 2021 16:32:33 GMT -5
Drake Wuertz sucks and is dumb.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Jun 2, 2021 16:38:36 GMT -5
Considering the tone deaf comments he made last year regarding less fortunate wrestlers than him, I can't say I'm too sad to see Braun go.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 2, 2021 16:38:59 GMT -5
It's occurred to me that there might be a reason why they called the PC during NXT broadcasts the "Capital Wrestling Center." What if, and this is only a thought, WWE was sold to another company _but_ the WWE titles and their histories remained with, say, NXT as part of that company's title lineage? The Universal title is relatively recent, but the WWE title dates back in an unbroken line to 1963 and, if one follows the lineage back through the NWA territories (where the World heavyweight title was a commonality among the territories), that lineage goes back to 1948 and that even before. Before WWE, Inc. was TitanSports, it was known as the Capitol Wrestling Corporation, Ltd. What are the odds that the McMahons' plan involves selling WWE, but possibly without certain assets that they can then use to rebuild as CWC? A sale would almost assuredly include a non-compete for a large number of years.
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Post by Mecca on Jun 2, 2021 16:39:09 GMT -5
I know people are reading the tea leaves, but I can't see many situations where an egomaniacal control freak like Vince McMahon would sell WWE to anyone. He's nearing 80, also he continues to.show he has no trust in anyone in his family to continue the business. He may want to make sure it lives on by selling to a huge company. Also 3-4 billion dollars is a ton money for a man/family that was nearly bankrupt several times. He can get that he'd make sure the McMahons basically become elites for the rest of time.
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