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Post by Chiral on Jun 2, 2021 17:05:57 GMT -5
Punker ain't wrong. If there's something that really sticks out to me about WWE compared with most of the other promotions going right now, even smaller ones like GCW, it just feels like they couldn't be much further away from the pulse of where a lot of the viewing public is at right now, which is kind of how I interpret the whole "in a language no one understands now" line since WWE is so rigid in how it presents storylines, characters, and feuds. I mean, it is literally in a language nobody really understands too. Regular viewers may take the buzzwords in their stride but as someone who only watches a WWE show once in a blue moon it's amazingly jarring at just how nonsensical a lot of the WWE language is. I was watching WWE in the back and they said "Listen. I'm not out here just to knock off my opponents, entertain the WWE Universe by havin' fun and stealing the show, inflict punishment upon other WWE superstars to potentially send them to a local medical facility, trend on Twitter with the hashtag #WWE, or obtain and potentially gain victory in championship opportunities. I'm here to, well, make an impact in Thunderdome."
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jun 2, 2021 17:08:11 GMT -5
I mean, it is literally in a language nobody really understands too. Regular viewers may take the buzzwords in their stride but as someone who only watches a WWE show once in a blue moon it's amazingly jarring at just how nonsensical a lot of the WWE language is. "Knocked off" and "championship opportunity" are two of the dumbest phrases I've ever heard on TV. Especially when you consider “knocking someone off” also means to f*** them.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 2, 2021 17:08:22 GMT -5
Speaking of released talent, Drake Wuertz did his first interview since being released (transcription is from Fightful): Speaking on Fireside Chat, Wuertz opened up about his release. "I was expecting it. My heart had not been in it for the past six months. It got to the point where I didn't feel right about the atmosphere and I was just coming to work for the paycheck. When it gets to that point, it's time to step away. I went into work to go to Terry Taylor's class and was called into the office. Canyon Ceman let me know I was being let go. It wasn't surprising. They let me go say goodbye to the coaches I was closest with, Terry Taylor and Matt Bloom. It was bittersweet because I spent more time there than I did my own family," he said. "It wasn't my performance. My performance never wavered and the trust in the ring never wavered. I was frequently requested by top talent." Wuertz worked the NXT show the day before his release and made sure to note that he wasn't wearing a mask when he entered the Performance Center the day of his release. When asked when he started to feel a shift in how those in WWE looked at him, Wuertz replied, "November, right around the election. It all started with woke cancel culture that just wants to attack people because they have views they don't agree with. It started specifically with me and WWE was when David Bixenspan started attacking me. That's when the ball got rolling." Bixenspan wrote an in-depth article looking at Wuertz' outside activities in WWE, which you can read by clicking here. Wuertz stated he is not part of QAnon, never endorsed QAnon, doesn't believe in conspiracy theories, has no affiliation with the Proud Boys. After his release, Fightful reported Wuertz was "either formally or informally suspended earlier in 2021 and was not permitted at the Performance Center for several weeks." Wuertz explained his suspension, saying, "A month before WrestleMania, I get a call from my department head, Scott Armstrong, who says, 'Somebody tested positive at work, we're asking everyone to quarantine.' I called him back and was like, 'I have stuff to do. I'm not sick. I tested negative. I haven't been around anyone.' I told him I had church, the Walk For Life, and I coach my son's baseball team. Those responsibilities were more important to me than pleasing WWE. I told him, 'No, I'm not staying home.' I got a call saying, 'You're off TV for two weeks, you violated quarantine.' 'For going to church?' They refused to answer." Wuertz said he is not a COVID denier and admitted that he tested positive for COVID, but didn't experience any symptoms. "Of course I believe in COVID. My grandparents have both had it. I caught it for a little bit. A whole chunk of the roster caught it. I didn't have any symptoms, the only reason I knew I had it is because they stick the stick up our nose two times a week," he said. When asked about his future, Wuertz said, "I wouldn't say that my time in wrestling business is done, but the days of that being my entire existence is behind me." Wuertz is scheduled to return to the ring under his Independent name Drake Younger on June 26. It isn’t “cancel culture” that made you attend a virtual board of education meeting and going on an unhinged, snot-nosed rant about masks and pedophilia while dressed in company gear. YOU did that.
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Post by Mecca on Jun 2, 2021 17:08:40 GMT -5
Something had to have happened with Braun. There's dozens of people I would've predicted to be let go before him. Hell there are title holders right now that I could've seen let go before him. I don't like him as a wrestler or as a man with opinions on twitter but this makes absolutely zero sense. He negotiated a contract where he made to much money.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 17:08:52 GMT -5
I know he bought the XFL but I wonder how much capital his investment firm has because I would have to believe if WWE is on the block then The Rock is most definetly hopping the line to try and buy it and really I think of all potential suitors I think he would be the best choice.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 2, 2021 17:12:48 GMT -5
WWE: We need you to quarantine for two weeks. Drake: I'm not doing that. WWE: You've been suspended for two weeks for violating quarantine. Drake: What the f***?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 17:12:50 GMT -5
Speaking of released talent, Drake Wuertz did his first interview since being released (transcription is from Fightful): Speaking on Fireside Chat, Wuertz opened up about his release. "I was expecting it. My heart had not been in it for the past six months. It got to the point where I didn't feel right about the atmosphere and I was just coming to work for the paycheck. When it gets to that point, it's time to step away. I went into work to go to Terry Taylor's class and was called into the office. Canyon Ceman let me know I was being let go. It wasn't surprising. They let me go say goodbye to the coaches I was closest with, Terry Taylor and Matt Bloom. It was bittersweet because I spent more time there than I did my own family," he said. "It wasn't my performance. My performance never wavered and the trust in the ring never wavered. I was frequently requested by top talent." Wuertz worked the NXT show the day before his release and made sure to note that he wasn't wearing a mask when he entered the Performance Center the day of his release. When asked when he started to feel a shift in how those in WWE looked at him, Wuertz replied, "November, right around the election. It all started with woke cancel culture that just wants to attack people because they have views they don't agree with. It started specifically with me and WWE was when David Bixenspan started attacking me. That's when the ball got rolling." Bixenspan wrote an in-depth article looking at Wuertz' outside activities in WWE, which you can read by clicking here. Wuertz stated he is not part of QAnon, never endorsed QAnon, doesn't believe in conspiracy theories, has no affiliation with the Proud Boys. After his release, Fightful reported Wuertz was "either formally or informally suspended earlier in 2021 and was not permitted at the Performance Center for several weeks." Wuertz explained his suspension, saying, "A month before WrestleMania, I get a call from my department head, Scott Armstrong, who says, 'Somebody tested positive at work, we're asking everyone to quarantine.' I called him back and was like, 'I have stuff to do. I'm not sick. I tested negative. I haven't been around anyone.' I told him I had church, the Walk For Life, and I coach my son's baseball team. Those responsibilities were more important to me than pleasing WWE. I told him, 'No, I'm not staying home.' I got a call saying, 'You're off TV for two weeks, you violated quarantine.' 'For going to church?' They refused to answer." Wuertz said he is not a COVID denier and admitted that he tested positive for COVID, but didn't experience any symptoms. "Of course I believe in COVID. My grandparents have both had it. I caught it for a little bit. A whole chunk of the roster caught it. I didn't have any symptoms, the only reason I knew I had it is because they stick the stick up our nose two times a week," he said. When asked about his future, Wuertz said, "I wouldn't say that my time in wrestling business is done, but the days of that being my entire existence is behind me." Wuertz is scheduled to return to the ring under his Independent name Drake Younger on June 26. It isn’t “cancel culture” that made you attend a virtual board of education meeting and going on an unhinged rant about masks and pedophilia while dressed in company gear. YOU did that. Dude claims people are trying to "cancel" him because they can't tolerate other people's views, yet he's the one who was said to throw a hissy fit when HHH said people of all religions were welcome in NXT. Clown.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 2, 2021 17:13:36 GMT -5
So now we can chalk up "coward willing to pull away from his views for damage control rather than at least commit to his beliefs" to the list of Wuertz's failings, neat.
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Post by lionheart21 on Jun 2, 2021 17:14:09 GMT -5
Wuertz stated he is not part of QAnon, never endorsed QAnon, doesn't believe in conspiracy theories, has no affiliation with the Proud Boys. Oh cool, so that speech you made at a town hall, the charity you raised money for with QAnon connections and the anti-mask rhetoric you said in the past year were all just coincidences I guess. Good to know. Not to mention, he flat-out stated that he is a Proud Boy in his Instagram bio. This guy is just pure scum, and refuses to take personal responsibility for his actions.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jun 2, 2021 17:15:02 GMT -5
"Knocked off" and "championship opportunity" are two of the dumbest phrases I've ever heard on TV. Especially when you consider “knocking someone off” also means to f*** them. I thought it meant to kill them mafia style?
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Post by Mecca on Jun 2, 2021 17:17:31 GMT -5
I know he bought the XFL but I wonder how much capital his investment firm has because I would have to believe if WWE is on the block then The Rock is most definetly hopping the line to try and buy it and really I think of all potential suitors I think he would be the best choice. He would have to be backed by an entity, the Rock doesn't have 3 billion.
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Post by Gremlin on Jun 2, 2021 17:17:47 GMT -5
I mean, it is literally in a language nobody really understands too. Regular viewers may take the buzzwords in their stride but as someone who only watches a WWE show once in a blue moon it's amazingly jarring at just how nonsensical a lot of the WWE language is. I was watching WWE in the back and they said "Listen. I'm not out here just to knock off my opponents, entertain the WWE Universe by havin' fun and stealing the show, inflict punishment upon other WWE superstars to potentially send them to a local medical facility, trend on Twitter with the hashtag #WWE, or obtain and potentially gain victory in championship opportunities. I'm here to, well, make an impact in Thunderdome." To the spine!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 17:18:36 GMT -5
I mean, it is literally in a language nobody really understands too. Regular viewers may take the buzzwords in their stride but as someone who only watches a WWE show once in a blue moon it's amazingly jarring at just how nonsensical a lot of the WWE language is. "Knocked off" and "championship opportunity" are two of the dumbest phrases I've ever heard on TV. "Knocked off" is one of those things you hear from announcers in team sports as well.
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Post by spagett on Jun 2, 2021 17:20:43 GMT -5
Punker ain't wrong. If there's something that really sticks out to me about WWE compared with most of the other promotions going right now, even smaller ones like GCW, it just feels like they couldn't be much further away from the pulse of where a lot of the viewing public is at right now, which is kind of how I interpret the whole "in a language no one understands now" line since WWE is so rigid in how it presents storylines, characters, and feuds. I mean, it is literally in a language nobody really understands too. Regular viewers may take the buzzwords in their stride but as someone who only watches a WWE show once in a blue moon it's amazingly jarring at just how nonsensical a lot of the WWE language is. I'm convinced the bizarre way they have everyone on their shows speak is a major reason for the ratings collapse and the dire state of the quality of Raw and Smackdown. They all sound like Vince, who is one of the oddest men to ever live. So few of them sound like real normal people,the amount of nonsensical sentences and buzzwords they use is just so off putting. It all comes across robotic weird and fake.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jun 2, 2021 17:23:14 GMT -5
I mean, it is literally in a language nobody really understands too. Regular viewers may take the buzzwords in their stride but as someone who only watches a WWE show once in a blue moon it's amazingly jarring at just how nonsensical a lot of the WWE language is. I'm convinced the bizarre way they have everyone on their shows speak is a major reason for the ratings collapse and the dire state of the quality of Raw and Smackdown. They all sound like Vince, who is one of the oddest men to ever live. So few of them sound like real normal people,the amount of nonsensical sentences and buzzwords they use is just so off putting. It all comes across robotic weird and fake. Add in nearly every promo being spoken in everyone's best imitation of Vince's cadence, and the effect becomes overpowering.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jun 2, 2021 17:23:55 GMT -5
More from Fightful on Braun: "Braun Strowman's release was likely the most surprising to fans, but to talent close to the situation, it didn't seem to be. Several that we spoke to said that Strowman's contract, signed in 2019, was a monster deal, and that he very much knew his worth when negotiating with the company. His contract came down to the wire in the summer of 2019, and he was signed well into 2023, for what WWE sources claim was over $1 million per year. Strowman was said to have been very private about negotiating the deal until it was finalized" Almost like signing every talent under the sun to big ass multi million dollar contracts when AEW was just starting up in a panic move was a f***ing stupid idea. Shit, who’s actually left from that bunch of people who signed those huge contracts that summer anyway? Sasha? Orton?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 2, 2021 17:27:07 GMT -5
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Post by Chiral on Jun 2, 2021 17:29:04 GMT -5
I mean, it is literally in a language nobody really understands too. Regular viewers may take the buzzwords in their stride but as someone who only watches a WWE show once in a blue moon it's amazingly jarring at just how nonsensical a lot of the WWE language is. I'm convinced the bizarre way they have everyone on their shows speak is a major reason for the ratings collapse and the dire state of the quality of Raw and Smackdown. They all sound like Vince, who is one of the oddest men to ever live. So few of them sound like real normal people,the amount of nonsensical sentences and buzzwords they use is just so off putting. It all comes across robotic weird and fake. It comes out super strong whenever documents leak.
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Post by Corre.222 on Jun 2, 2021 17:29:14 GMT -5
With Tony Khan coming very hard at Nick Khan in his promo, I can see Tony Khan relishing the FEUD between the two companies just as much as WWE & Vince is petty.
Therefore, I believe there will be a bidding war for cream of the crop of these firings (plus Andrade). Tony Khan will want the optics to play out where WWE just handed AEW the talent (by these firings) to close the gap & inch it's way closer to WWE's prestige by WWE's own mistakes.
I hope WWE unwittingly helps AEW & competition with this.
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Post by Mecca on Jun 2, 2021 17:30:05 GMT -5
I mean, it is literally in a language nobody really understands too. Regular viewers may take the buzzwords in their stride but as someone who only watches a WWE show once in a blue moon it's amazingly jarring at just how nonsensical a lot of the WWE language is. I'm convinced the bizarre way they have everyone on their shows speak is a major reason for the ratings collapse and the dire state of the quality of Raw and Smackdown. They all sound like Vince, who is one of the oddest men to ever live. So few of them sound like real normal people,the amount of nonsensical sentences and buzzwords they use is just so off putting. It all comes across robotic weird and fake. It's more brand over talent stuff. Make everyone the same, give them buzzwords that promote the company etc.
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