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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Jun 13, 2021 23:09:33 GMT -5
As someone that loves wrestlers who are kinda scary to watch, the huge entrance and shoot fighter vibes are absolutely soulcrushing for me when he starts actually wrestling. Karrion Katfish. I love supernatural bullshit in my wrestling ... so kinda same... at least with the Big spooky entrance and original vignettes... And Scarlett isn’t even a pyromancer anymore. Smh
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Post by SirLucas on Jun 13, 2021 23:12:48 GMT -5
Are they supposed to be modern day vampires or just goth characters?
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Jun 13, 2021 23:15:35 GMT -5
Are they supposed to be modern day vampires or just goth characters? Well one is a Big Gay Gladiator and the other is a Sex Craved Vixen
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 13, 2021 23:16:33 GMT -5
Are they supposed to be modern day vampires or just goth characters? Well one is a Big Gay Gladiator and the other is a Sex Craved Vixen Together, they fight crime.
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Post by Mecca on Jun 13, 2021 23:23:54 GMT -5
Are they supposed to be modern day vampires or just goth characters? Well one is a Big Gay Gladiator and the other is a Sex Craved Vixen So when they get horny they split up...
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Jun 14, 2021 0:02:17 GMT -5
Give Kross some damn pants and have Scarlett go back to being a redhead. I just saved the main event scene, you're welcome.
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Post by pinja on Jun 14, 2021 0:22:05 GMT -5
Despite me thinking he's garbage anyway (and I liked him in Lucha Underground's vignettes), his failings boil down to what makes a good gimmick. A good gimmick gives matches meaning - he doesn't. Combined with negative presence he's NXT's Alexa Bliss for me.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 14, 2021 0:27:57 GMT -5
Again I'm not as hard on Kross as most of FAN, but I think tonight should be a wake up call. He'd be fine as an upper midcarder, but him as champ's just not working out. Him killing the crowd dead every time he was on offense in there was super awkward. Honestly, though? It didn't matter to me who was walking out as champ, I have very little interest in NXT's main event scene right now. Yeah, I think Kross could obviously have more fan interest, that much is clear, but I kind of get the feeling most of the other options wouldn't really be setting the world on fire right now, either. Keith Lee getting called up hurt, as did Kross getting injured and losing any momentum he'd have had, but Priest getting called up might be one of the biggest blows to NXT in terms of guys that felt like a big deal. Balor kind of outliving his usefulness as part of NXT, Cole and KOR's feud being underwhelming and Cole really running out of things to do, and the former Team DIY both being guys who have been around too long, even if The Way has helped at least rejuvenate Gargano a bit, and there's just a lot of feelings of stagnation that are hard to overcome.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 14, 2021 0:35:10 GMT -5
I don't think it helped that they were going all-in on the Lesnar booking with him tonight and I don't think that's something that would EVER fly in NXT. Like just straight up, up until the bit where Dunne kicked the shit out of him everything he did was he'd come in, effortlessly destroy everyone with a bunch of suplexes, then go take a nap on the floor for a bit. It would fly if it was somebody like Lesnar. Kross for as good as he can be, is no Brock freaking Lesnar. That's not an insult, very few are in Brock's category. Brock's an uncaring piece of shit monster, that's only in it for wins and the money. That comes across in everything he did. He also backed up everything Heyman said, but would sell his ass off. Brock got everybody's attention. Well one is a Big Gay Gladiator and the other is a Sex Craved Vixen Together, they fight crime. Kross and Scarlett as the new Hurricane and Mighty Molly? Why the f*** not? Do it, WWE.
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Post by knightboat on Jun 14, 2021 4:26:49 GMT -5
It's been covered here we'll, but Kross is boring. He's not an interesting character. I guess he's a monster, but there's no motivation for him. He's got a cool entrance, big music but that's it. That's not a character. Now se people can get away with a boring character if they crush it in the ring. Sadly Cross doesn't do this either. No character, no good in ring work, he's just boring.
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Post by celtics543 on Jun 14, 2021 6:03:23 GMT -5
I watched NXT for the first time in a long time last night and I have some thoughts on the main event guys. I had seen all but Kross work before although I hadn't seen O'Reilly since the split from UE.
-Kross had a cool entrance but sometimes his facial expressions don't match his gimmick. There are times he looks great and his moveset matches his character but then there are times he makes faces that just make him look like an average bald guy walking down the street. It's like he can't stay in character all the time and it hurts him. He just kept taking me out of the moment. My assumption is that he's supposed to be the big monster and he kind of is but there are moments where he looks too human and too normal and it just didn't work for me.
I think the rest of the guys in the match have issues too though. Gargano I like but his cosplay as Shawn Michaels was a little much. Great worker but if he never wins the big one then he should probably stop being in the match. Adam Cole I think could be a star....if he was a little bit bigger. He carries himself as a star but he makes HBK and Bret look like Hogan and Andre. He's by far the most over guy in this match though. Pete Dunn I really like. He has a unique style. He's got a good look. I like his mannerisms and his selling. Kyle O'Reilly has a blah name and a blah physique plus a blah face but he can work and I can see him at an IC title level or ideally as part of a good tag team, if WWE cared about tag team wrestling.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 14, 2021 8:16:43 GMT -5
Killer Kross? More like Crowdkiller Kross. (I wasn't walking into Three Ks, heh.) Actually Kross invended killing crowds so it isn't racist at all
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 14, 2021 8:25:24 GMT -5
Meh I like him *shrugs*
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Post by michael on Jun 14, 2021 8:25:53 GMT -5
I can't unsee Keegan-Michael Key in his face, and can't take him seriously.
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Post by Derk! on Jun 14, 2021 8:47:21 GMT -5
I can't unsee Keegan-Michael Key in his face, and can't take him seriously. Damnit. Now I can't unsee that either. Screw it. Turn Kross into a sketch comic artist.
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Post by Fade on Jun 14, 2021 9:19:46 GMT -5
I can't unsee Keegan-Michael Key in his face, and can't take him seriously. I see roided-up Doug Walker.
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Post by mc74 on Jun 14, 2021 9:34:08 GMT -5
I like Kross, but I have to admit that seeing him getting the Conway pop throughout the match was very damning. He definitely needs some serious rehabbing, because him being in the main event scene is not working out at all.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 14, 2021 10:45:26 GMT -5
He's.........fine, but I just don't buy him as a top guy/main champion
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 11:04:28 GMT -5
He's.........fine, but I just don't buy him as a top guy/main champion Does he have potential to be THE GUY? yea but there is a reason every other televised company he has been apart of never pushed him to this level...he was definetly made to be a very important piece to angles and stories but never was he made to be THE GUY...and it is where NXT has made the most crucial and biggest mistake with him. He feels hand picked....and that never will ever bode well for anyone.
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 14, 2021 11:24:39 GMT -5
My hot take: Scarlett's involvement as part of Kross's gimmick is holding him back.
I used to think that she'd be a shoo-in factor for Kross being called up to the main roster, if only to split them up and to tack her to someone else. However, I don't see her as going much farther than she has. She's a Sable-bot with a Luna Vachon personality program embedded, so the cringe would be strong with her.
Kross with an MMA-type gimmick is a monster run on the main roster on a collision course with Lesnar, then a decent midcard/upper card run from then on out. Kross as this hokey gladiator type barreling through the _entire_ top tier of NXT isn't doing either him or the brand any favours. I don't think it really does Scarlett any favours, either: Lilith characters that might have been popular during the Attitude Era aren't "fashionable" in 2021.
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