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Post by Wardlow on Wardlow 54 on Jun 22, 2021 13:47:56 GMT -5
Said it last night, talented as f***, but still a garbage human. It's funny, I got eviscerated in the YouTube comments section (yeah, I know) for calling him a piece of shit. Apparently "he and Gabe Sapolski and Vince McMahon said it didn't happen" is a valid criminal defense. Who knew?? Don’t believe this is a pending criminal matter. Which was the other big defense used on YT lol seriously, nobody waste their time arguing about anything on YouTube, you will get eaten alive, right or wrong lol This isn't even the most frustrating fight I had in there 😂
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 22, 2021 14:05:37 GMT -5
Don’t believe this is a pending criminal matter. Which was the other big defense used on YT lol seriously, nobody waste their time arguing about anything on YouTube, you will get eaten alive, right or wrong lol This isn't even the most frustrating fight I had in there 😂 Well yeah I wouldn’t look for intelligent discussion in YouTube comments.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 22, 2021 14:06:43 GMT -5
If I had to hate wrestlers that were shitheads IRL I think there are only like 4 wrestlers I'd be allowed to like. Probably about the same ratio as with pro athletes. It's best not to meet your heroes... especially if they are pro athletes.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 22, 2021 14:19:37 GMT -5
His interactions with Orton last night were hilarious, especially the "stash of Whoppers" and acting like a sad puppy when Orton refused to talk to him on the stage.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jun 22, 2021 14:43:06 GMT -5
His interactions with Orton last night were hilarious, especially the "stash of Whoppers" and acting like a sad puppy when Orton refused to talk to him on the stage. “Talk to me, you can talk to me Randy” 💔
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Post by Clutchhausen on Jun 22, 2021 14:49:31 GMT -5
Nah he sucks.
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Jun 22, 2021 14:50:08 GMT -5
He's basically like Sasuke to me. A shitty person who's great at what he does. I wish he wasn't such a shitty person because if not then yeah I'd be singing his praises. And Sasuke's not real so yeah. Thought this was about Great Sasuke at first and was braced for major disappointment to find out he's a terrible person lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 15:08:59 GMT -5
I don't know if Riddle's guilty of what he's been accused of, but he's clearly a f***ing idiot. I don't think even his defenders can really deny that.
RKBro are great.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jun 22, 2021 17:24:37 GMT -5
I’ll admit I haven’t watched the current product in eons, but I’ve heard and read that Matt Riddle kicks much ass. Is it true?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 17:26:29 GMT -5
I’ll admit I haven’t watched the current product in eons, but I’ve heard and read that Matt Riddle kicks much ass. Is it true? (If we're leaving real life stuff out of it) If someone wanted to call him the best wrestler in the company, I wouldn't argue. Even his biggest haters admit he's an amazing wrestler. It's his character that people either love or hate.
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Post by joeiscool on Jun 22, 2021 17:47:02 GMT -5
Just curious, why does everyone say he’s a piece of trash human? Becuase he cheated on his wife? Because he smokes pot? Im generally intrigued why people say this? If you say that because of the allegations against Him, all that was proven was that he had cheated on his wife, which I’m sure 90% of wrestlers have at some point in time. Outside of the u proven allegations, why do u say he’s a terrible person? From what I’ve heard, if you take away all that unproven noise, everyone who’s ever met him in person I have read about say he’s cool as hell and great with their kids The issue is that there's an alleged sexual assault somewhere in all of this, which I believe is still in the courts or something. I think I've said this before, but you have to treat these things in such a specific way and hear out the accusations to their fullest extent, almost to a point of "guilty before proven innocent" against the accused (in this case, Riddle), because casting doubt upon the alleged victim too hard can deter any future victims of sexual assault from stepping forward and trying to bring other scumbags to justice. Yes, it does end up smearing the names of some who turn out to be innocent, and that sucks, but sexual assault allegations are such a sensitive and traumatic issue that there's no real other way to approach it. Either way, Riddle is a bit of a dickhead. A talented dickhead, but still a dickhead. I feel like this approach is well intentioned I still don't think it's the right approach in a discussion about his work in wrestling. I get if you believe that he's guilty it will taint your perception, but the end of the day we aren't watching him rape people we're watching him play a wrestling character. I don't think every post about riddle needs a comment about the maybe pending charges..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 17:51:03 GMT -5
I view Matt Riddle as the American Will Ospreay - extremely talented but, if the allegations are true, such a piece of shit human being that I can't enjoy watching him. And given the nature of the charges against him, I can't in good conscience go to the "innocent until proven guilty" well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 17:54:58 GMT -5
I view Matt Riddle as the American Will Ospreay - extremely talented but, if the allegations are true, such a piece of shit human being that I can't enjoy watching him. And given the nature of the charges against him, I can't in good conscience go to the "innocent until proven guilty" well. He and his douchebag wife have definitely not helped themselves.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 22, 2021 17:57:05 GMT -5
I view Matt Riddle as the American Will Ospreay - extremely talented but, if the allegations are true, such a piece of shit human being that I can't enjoy watching him. And given the nature of the charges against him, I can't in good conscience go to the "innocent until proven guilty" well. In fairness, I don't think Will Ospreay's been accused of committing sexual assault himself, so much as being a complete scumbag about covering for his buddy who was accused of it. Unless I missed a big revelation from SpeakingOut.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 18:02:47 GMT -5
In fairness, I don't think Will Ospreay's been accused of committing sexual assault himself, so much as being a complete scumbag about covering for his buddy who was accused of it. Unless I missed a big revelation from SpeakingOut. No you're correct as far as I know, but trying to blackball an alleged rape victim because the alleged rapist is your friend is an incredibly scummy move.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 22, 2021 18:58:33 GMT -5
He's in the Osprey lane for me
A f***ing idiot at best in real life but holy shit is he a phenominal wrestler
I couldnt stand his character until RK-Bro either. But ever since he just seems like he's clicking with what he wants to do. I actually felt something when he was standing there saying "Randy... you can talk to me" while Randy looked seconds away from killing him. Riddle just has this childlike buffoonery about him as a character that paired with someone like Randy becomes genuinely endearing in presentation. It will be super over with crowds I can guarantee it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 0:23:33 GMT -5
I still don't get how the Velveteen Dream match never led to Riddle turning into a bloodthirsty heel because he absolutely killed it in that capacity.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 23, 2021 2:08:26 GMT -5
I still don't get how the Velveteen Dream match never led to Riddle turning into a bloodthirsty heel because he absolutely killed it in that capacity. There have also been slight teases of Riddle getting more vicious with Randy vs New Day. But I think they like the contrasting Dynamic too much to fully lean into either one fully embracing the others side so to speak. And to be fair I don't think they need to I however really want to see Randy on the scooter just one time...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 14:35:49 GMT -5
As someone whose favourite wrestler was Shawn Michaels for a very long time, I have to believe that people can change and become good people. I've seen it happen but I don't believe it can in an environment where the accused is insulted and thought the worst of constantly. I think that's sort of creating a self fulfilling cycle at that point.
I think the idea of believing the victim is absolutely correct; we need to support people when they come forward with these things in order to make others feel like they can as well. It is an important step in making them feel heard. That doesn't mean I don't still believe in innocent until proven guilty. The two can both be true and I completely disagree that you need to sacrifice one to gain the other.
What I think is despicable, is when people decide they know what happened, and attack a person whom they do not know in the name of justice. Many people I know and respect, some on this very forum, are guilty of going too far with those sort of things. You can believe the victim without attacking the accused. I don't know what you have to gain besides some type of schadenfreude in that respect anyways. Even if he is guilty and is a piece of shit, what do you gain from insulting him on twitter? It just seems like a way to allow more hatred into your life.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jun 23, 2021 14:53:58 GMT -5
Riddle is part of why I refuse to watch RAW because in addition to being a shit person he's so unbearable on screen that you'd think he'd just stepped out of a stage production of Jack & Jill.
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