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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 23, 2021 14:45:55 GMT -5
I don't think they'd take him off TV for this. Why pay a guy to sit at home? If he's under contract regardless, you might as well use him while this whole thing plays out.
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Post by pinja on Jun 23, 2021 14:59:27 GMT -5
If this is the reason he's off tv, what would prevent him to state he's healthy? More of a rethorical question. I'm all around confused and for a lack of a better word impatient or suspicious.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 15:09:54 GMT -5
I always thought there was either some mental health issues or complications from when he had Covid (has he been on TV since then?). The tweets he was sending out seemed like it was something he wanted to advocate for/raise awareness for but wasn't being allowed to discuss it at the moment. If it's just this name thing then that's actually fairly reassuring for me as I was beginning to assume something pretty negative was happening.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2021 15:36:44 GMT -5
This doesn't make sense on any level. Lee was hot when he got called up so having him sit at home is costing WWE money and costing Lee the chance to capitalize on this during one of his peak years (hes 36) overness doesn't last forever. If it was just this then both sides would have worked out a compromise by now as doing otherwise is walking away when money is on the table. Sad to say that while this certainly doesn't help I don't think its the only reason.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Jun 23, 2021 15:45:48 GMT -5
Yeah, no. Sorry. Keith got covid at the beginning of the year and was pulled from TV due to health reasons. When Keith Lee wants to come out and shut down reports that that’s not why he was sidelined, I’m happy to revisit this trademark one. But the notion that this should flood the narrative of why he’s still off TV? Haha no thanks, I’m not taking the bait. People are already reading one link and drawing conclusions that this is why he’s not being used. I hate the internet sometimes.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jun 23, 2021 16:11:11 GMT -5
What's the point in trademarking his name when we all know they're just gonna have to trademark Kathy Lee in 2022 regardless?
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Post by Thunderbolt on Jun 23, 2021 18:02:44 GMT -5
Here's the obvious "Paul Heyman solution":
Keith takes his wife's last name so he's now Keith Yim. And, just like when Mike Kanellis did that, all of Keith's future story lines involve his wife cheating on him with every dude on the roster(and returning stars like Braun Stroman and Hornswoggle). To the delight of absolutely nobody.
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Post by nm on Jun 23, 2021 19:39:10 GMT -5
If it were the FCW days he'd come back as "McArdle "Limitless" Ferguson"
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 23, 2021 20:06:43 GMT -5
WWE has one that they filed on August 27th, 2019. tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:1wo7pk.2.2Keith Lee then filed one on December 18, 2020. tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:1wo7pk.2.1Why would Keith try to trademark his own name, when WWE had trademarked his name, or attempted to, a year and a half earlier? Now an easy answer is "he wants to own his name" but that's not how WWE does business. Doing this is telling WWE you're not doing business their way. Now, let's say you're an attorney working for WWE, and you're in charge of trademarks and you run across this application, or are alerted. This happens right before Christmas and New Years, and then you let people know this happened in the new year. Keith wrestles a few times, taken off TV with the Covid issue, and then does not come back. But wasn't he rumored to have Covid before the Royal Rumble, and he wrestled on Raw on February 8th, after the Rumble? Here is when the rumor at least first started because Mia Yim legit had to pull out. www.the-sun.com/sport/2241473/wwe-mia-yim-royal-rumble-covid-19-keith-lee/And now he is cryptic about what is going on. This seems unusual because him applying to trademark his own name in late December of 2020 shows he lacks a certain amount of faith in what was going on with WWE behind the scenes. OR, he learned they didn't have long term plans for him. OR, they didn't care that he trademarked his name even though they had attempted to do so in the middle of 2019. It may all be nothing, but it is unusual because WWE likes to have their books in order when it comes to these things, and him wanting his own trademark is a huge wrench in their plans. WWE is a business first company, and Keith might be messing with their money, as they see it. Or this is all nothing, but I have a hard time seeing it that way. Is there someone else that tried to trademark their name a year and a half AFTER WWE trademarked their name, that was still with the company?
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 23, 2021 20:27:29 GMT -5
WWE has one that they filed on August 27th, 2019. tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:1wo7pk.2.2Keith Lee then filed one on December 18, 2020. tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:1wo7pk.2.1Why would Keith try to trademark his own name, when WWE had trademarked his name, or attempted to, a year and a half earlier? Now an easy answer is "he wants to own his name" but that's not how WWE does business. Doing this is telling WWE you're not doing business their way. Now, let's say you're an attorney working for WWE, and you're in charge of trademarks and you run across this application, or are alerted. This happens right before Christmas and New Years, and then you let people know this happened in the new year. Keith wrestles a few times, taken off TV with the Covid issue, and then does not come back. But wasn't he rumored to have Covid before the Royal Rumble, and he wrestled on Raw on February 8th, after the Rumble? Here is when the rumor at least first started because Mia Yim legit had to pull out. www.the-sun.com/sport/2241473/wwe-mia-yim-royal-rumble-covid-19-keith-lee/And now he is cryptic about what is going on. This seems unusual because him applying to trademark his own name in late December of 2020 shows he lacks a certain amount of faith in what was going on with WWE behind the scenes. OR, he learned they didn't have long term plans for him. OR, they didn't care that he trademarked his name even though they had attempted to do so in the middle of 2019. It may all be nothing, but it is unusual because WWE likes to have their books in order when it comes to these things, and him wanting his own trademark is a huge wrench in their plans. WWE is a business first company, and Keith might be messing with their money, as they see it. Or this is all nothing, but I have a hard time seeing it that way. Is there someone else that tried to trademark their name a year and a half AFTER WWE trademarked their name, that was still with the company? Could be as simple as. He sees where he is going with the company. Plans a future after WWE. So he wants to keep his name when he moves on.
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Post by cjh on Jun 23, 2021 21:34:52 GMT -5
WWE has one that they filed on August 27th, 2019. tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:1wo7pk.2.2Keith Lee then filed one on December 18, 2020. tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:1wo7pk.2.1Why would Keith try to trademark his own name, when WWE had trademarked his name, or attempted to, a year and a half earlier? Now an easy answer is "he wants to own his name" but that's not how WWE does business. Doing this is telling WWE you're not doing business their way. Now, let's say you're an attorney working for WWE, and you're in charge of trademarks and you run across this application, or are alerted. This happens right before Christmas and New Years, and then you let people know this happened in the new year. Keith wrestles a few times, taken off TV with the Covid issue, and then does not come back. But wasn't he rumored to have Covid before the Royal Rumble, and he wrestled on Raw on February 8th, after the Rumble? Here is when the rumor at least first started because Mia Yim legit had to pull out. www.the-sun.com/sport/2241473/wwe-mia-yim-royal-rumble-covid-19-keith-lee/And now he is cryptic about what is going on. This seems unusual because him applying to trademark his own name in late December of 2020 shows he lacks a certain amount of faith in what was going on with WWE behind the scenes. OR, he learned they didn't have long term plans for him. OR, they didn't care that he trademarked his name even though they had attempted to do so in the middle of 2019. It may all be nothing, but it is unusual because WWE likes to have their books in order when it comes to these things, and him wanting his own trademark is a huge wrench in their plans. WWE is a business first company, and Keith might be messing with their money, as they see it. Or this is all nothing, but I have a hard time seeing it that way. Is there someone else that tried to trademark their name a year and a half AFTER WWE trademarked their name, that was still with the company? Could be as simple as. He sees where he is going with the company. Plans a future after WWE. So he wants to keep his name when he moves on.Keith Lee is his real name. They can't stop him from using it after he leaves, especially since he already established it working the indies.
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Post by mrtuesday on Jun 23, 2021 21:45:00 GMT -5
Could be as simple as. He sees where he is going with the company. Plans a future after WWE. So he wants to keep his name when he moves on.Keith Lee is his real name. They can't stop him from using it after he leaves, especially since he already established it working the indies. Could he use "Keith Lee" on merchandise with WWE having the trademark? Maybe. Maybe not. But it's best to have all of that in order, regardless.
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Post by cjh on Jun 23, 2021 21:50:58 GMT -5
Keith Lee is his real name. They can't stop him from using it after he leaves, especially since he already established it working the indies. Could he use "Keith Lee" on merchandise with WWE having the trademark? Maybe. Maybe not. But it's best to have all of that in order, regardless. Yes, he could. WWE has lost in the past when they tried to claim ownership of IP that was established by the performer outside the company. Honky Tonk Man being "Honky Tonk Wayne" in Stampede Wrestling prior to coming to WWE was enough to get him the name.
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Post by Andee9001 on Jun 23, 2021 22:24:48 GMT -5
Have they ever taken someone off TV for trying to trademark their name before? Rhetorical question because we all know the answer - Keith Lee
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Post by No One on Jun 23, 2021 22:27:03 GMT -5
His name will just be 'Lee' soon enough anyway.
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Post by Kyn on Jun 23, 2021 22:32:17 GMT -5
Watch Vince rename him "Keith" now. Nah, Kelly Kelly it. We're calling him "Keith Keith" from now on.
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 23, 2021 22:40:22 GMT -5
Nope. WWE has no reason to keep in a pissing contest with one of its hottest up-and-coming stars when it can simply give him a new name and tell him "take it or stay home."
I think he's got long-haul COVID-19 which can last months and may even cause permanent issues. They can't legally release him so long as he's ill, until at least the contract period ends; and probably won't release him if he recovers fully enough to get back in the ring.
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Post by ARI WOW WOW on Jun 23, 2021 23:10:00 GMT -5
Watch Vince rename him "Keith" now. Nah, Kelly Kelly it. We're calling him "Keith Keith" from now on. Or Lee Lee... Leelee..Lilly. OMG!!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 23, 2021 23:14:01 GMT -5
Better than it being health issues. I’m…going to go on record and saying this doesn’t explain his time off TV. Mostly because they likely would have just given him a new name a long time ago. Going off Lee's cryptic tweets if this was simply about trademarking his name I would be absolutely stunned.
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Post by Muskrat on Jun 23, 2021 23:19:06 GMT -5
While I’ve been surprised by their incompetence with stuff like this in the past, I have to believe that this would directly be addressed in his contract
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