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Post by Dub H on Jul 10, 2021 22:01:39 GMT -5
Dub H, why do you think this train's started on you? I feel like there's not a lot to go by but the idea of using dice seems, I don't, like an exaggeration. Is there more to what you've said than hinting at a powet role? I dont want to hint more than I have to,as last game I think that was a big part of the end,I want to be clear but still have leverage in the game. But I think I can say if kept alive people will realize I have a niche that can be used for town. Smart players will be able to realize what it is. I mean so far there are two people ,not exactly a train yet, but there was not many going for my defense,more people against the idea of rolling the dice. I think the idea of justifying luck to kill one of the more active players that have show to have a plan is the perfect excuse for Scum. "oh,I didnt wanna lynch Dub H, but you know,the dice". it would pretty much be giving then a free pass.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 10, 2021 22:08:29 GMT -5
EBWOP: What would have to be gained of information from my lynch?
That people rolled the die?The most you can get was already revealed,without needing to lynch me:
Who was against the die and who was in favor? Who wanted to avoid the topic AT ALL?
RKTaker,Brad,Tyger,Cthulhu so far are all safe for me for they tried to move the topic along and not trust the dice blindly,so why are the other people waiting for more votes and not speaking up on the subject?
Zack for example has commented but gave no actual contribution to the topic,neither have Jazzman and Jonathan, Big Tony just voted to believe the die,not adding anything. For me those are the guys we should focus on.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jul 10, 2021 23:33:19 GMT -5
Big Tony is a rookie to this game he saw someone had a vote and jumped on it he could of made a rookie mistake to try and get someone lynched so the day could end and mafia can kill again.
I'm suspicious of Tony and Cthulhu, honestly I'm not real suspicious of Double H he doesn't seem to warrant any votes yet and if it was indeed a random pick I dont know what to make of it.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jul 11, 2021 10:02:37 GMT -5
I’m still a little confused as to why HH is the target.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 11, 2021 10:31:15 GMT -5
I’m still a little confused as to why HH is the target. I dont think there is much more to covery about it,it was a dice roll and honestly I will try to FOS: Jazzman since he hasnt spoken up about the situation yet.Feels like a good time for people to speak up about something else if they dont intend on lynching me,since we need to do something.
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Post by RKTaker on Jul 11, 2021 11:46:45 GMT -5
EBWOP: What would have to be gained of information from my lynch? That people rolled the die?The most you can get was already revealed,without needing to lynch me: Who was against the die and who was in favor? Who wanted to avoid the topic AT ALL? RKTaker,Brad,Tyger,Cthulhu so far are all safe for me for they tried to move the topic along and not trust the dice blindly,so why are the other people waiting for more votes and not speaking up on the subject? Zack for example has commented but gave no actual contribution to the topic,neither have Jazzman and Jonathan, Big Tony just voted to believe the die,not adding anything. For me those are the guys we should focus on. of course people will say that if you end up lynched and turn out to be town then we know that, and target who went after you etc, however when you do which obviously you can do that with a dice roll depending on who just jumps on it but even still there's not much information here
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 12:16:29 GMT -5
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jul 11, 2021 12:24:42 GMT -5
What serious are you specifying? I was serious about rolling the dice on it. When the number came up and it was HH, I put some serious thought in a justification on why I should vote for him. That's about as serious as I got. If I'm serious about believing that he's mafia, then that's where things get hazy. As much as I agree now with a day 1 lynch, part of me still thinks that it's a shot in the dark. Might as well be upfront about that and say I rolled the dice. No one was voting for anyone. Didn't check back, but from the looks of it everyone was in agreement about a day 1 lynch but no one came forward with a vote so might as well decide on it with a dice roll.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 11, 2021 12:56:24 GMT -5
What serious are you specifying? I was serious about rolling the dice on it. When the number came up and it was HH, I put some serious thought in a justification on why I should vote for him. That's about as serious as I got. If I'm serious about believing that he's mafia, then that's where things get hazy. As much as I agree now with a day 1 lynch, part of me still thinks that it's a shot in the dark. Might as well be upfront about that and say I rolled the dice. No one was voting for anyone. Didn't check back, but from the looks of it everyone was in agreement about a day 1 lynch but no one came forward with a vote so might as well decide on it with a dice roll. Well even then your justification didnt make sense,I played the same as last time,calling what I was,when I was town.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Jul 11, 2021 13:20:11 GMT -5
What serious are you specifying? I was serious about rolling the dice on it. When the number came up and it was HH, I put some serious thought in a justification on why I should vote for him. That's about as serious as I got. If I'm serious about believing that he's mafia, then that's where things get hazy. As much as I agree now with a day 1 lynch, part of me still thinks that it's a shot in the dark. Might as well be upfront about that and say I rolled the dice. No one was voting for anyone. Didn't check back, but from the looks of it everyone was in agreement about a day 1 lynch but no one came forward with a vote so might as well decide on it with a dice roll. Well even then your justification didnt make sense,I played the same as last time,calling what I was,when I was town. Of course it won't make any sense to you. Would be pretty silly if you just went, yep I'm mafia. I've been in mafia games with you three times now including this. ...wait, I forgot you hosted the game last time. Either way, two times including now your go-to has been declaring yourself town. I commend your honesty if you're telling the truth, but I stick by what I thought of during the previous game that had you playing... even though I was mafia then. Declaring yourself town on day 1 doesn't sit right with me. Especially if you're a vanilla townie. Just serves as a means of protection to yourself. Unless you're hiding your actual role, but claiming vanilla townie doesn't really serve much help to the rest of town. Is what I thought when I saw the results of the dice roll. For most part, I rolled the dice because no one voted aside from declaring their want for a day 1 lynch.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 11, 2021 13:22:48 GMT -5
Well even then your justification didnt make sense,I played the same as last time,calling what I was,when I was town. Of course it won't make any sense to you. Would be pretty silly if you just went, yep I'm mafia. I've been in mafia games with you three times now including this. ...wait, I forgot you hosted the game last time. Either way, two times including now your go-to has been declaring yourself town. I commend your honesty if you're telling the truth, but I stick by what I thought of during the previous game that had you playing... even though I was mafia then. Declaring yourself town on day 1 doesn't sit right with me. Especially if you're a vanilla townie. Just serves as a means of protection to yourself. Unless you're hiding your actual role, but claiming vanilla townie doesn't really serve much help to the rest of town. Is what I thought when I saw the results of the dice roll. For most part, I rolled the dice because no one voted aside from declaring their want for a day 1 lynch. the move is less about declaring that I am town but what about my role in the game is. I have no big role in this game I wint be making crazy game changing night actions ,unlike last time that I was a doctor.That is all that is meant to hint at ,as Tyger seemed to pick up the context. Make no mistake,if I drop a hint about myself it isnt just to make myself look like town.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 11, 2021 13:25:02 GMT -5
EBWOP: I also think it is a good idea to give the town a talking point. So the existence of a role by itself is a great talking bout to start a thread to a lynch and discover how everyone else reacts to it
Or who doesnt react in some cases
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 13:34:09 GMT -5
Declaring yourself as a vanilla townie does have strategic value, though. If you are telling the truth, you're one less person that Town has to investigate, roleblock, etc. You're also less of a target early on, so the doctor doesn't have to heal you.
That said, it's also a good ruse, especially if you're the Godfather.
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Post by Jazzman on Jul 11, 2021 13:46:01 GMT -5
Look, I'm going to answer directly to Double H for his request that u comment on the dice roll scenario.
One, I woild never take it seriously, it's an opening vote done in a random situation.
Two, discussing it has done nothing but give the scum a chance to hide. We've been discussing something that by it's very nature was random and now we sit here 24 hours to lynch in the same spot we were.
Three, although this might been an instance of Cthulhu being Cthulhu, doing something so random to spin communication is a solid scum play, so it is suspicious. It also may have gained him a scape goat in the new guy voting along with it so that way he can pass the blame. Also, the amount of time discussing this makes the people pushing that discussion, namely you Double H, makes me suspicious of you as well.
So to sum it up, I'm suspicious of Vthulhu and Double H for very different reasons about this dice thing, the only.person I'm certain of as town besides myself is Brad, he's been hinting heavily at a couple of important roles that match up town.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 14:01:40 GMT -5
Of course it won't make any sense to you. Would be pretty silly if you just went, yep I'm mafia. I've been in mafia games with you three times now including this. ...wait, I forgot you hosted the game last time. Either way, two times including now your go-to has been declaring yourself town. I commend your honesty if you're telling the truth, but I stick by what I thought of during the previous game that had you playing... even though I was mafia then. Declaring yourself town on day 1 doesn't sit right with me. Especially if you're a vanilla townie. Just serves as a means of protection to yourself. Unless you're hiding your actual role, but claiming vanilla townie doesn't really serve much help to the rest of town. Is what I thought when I saw the results of the dice roll. For most part, I rolled the dice because no one voted aside from declaring their want for a day 1 lynch. the move is less about declaring that I am town but what about my role in the game is. I have no big role in this game I wint be making crazy game changing night actions ,unlike last time that I was a doctor.That is all that is meant to hint at ,as Tyger seemed to pick up the context. Make no mistake,if I drop a hint about myself it isnt just to make myself look like town. You've given enough info that you're not one of the main six and, given the options in the write-up, you're one of two characters. Now, if you aren't the one I initially thought of, then I buy that you're vanilla. The other character you could be would be less likely to have a power role but it's not impossible. It does solidify you in my eyes as Town, though.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jul 11, 2021 14:50:56 GMT -5
I dont know much to say I agree let's not focus on the dice roll it was a ballsy move doing that on this game but it shouldn't be the focal point how people reacted to it should be more of a focal point.
I'm going to flip flop a little I'm not entirely suspicious of Cthulu anymore yeah that was a crazy move but it did get people talking and reacting to his craziness.
We have Big Tony who went along with it and voted with Cthulu which could just be him being new.
We got Double H who I think did a good job defending himself
Tyger is being Tyger he seems to be trying to get answers
And the current MVP in Mafia games Jazzman, just something I came up since he was very big in getting the town the win I the last two games, anyway after his track record in the last games I hope he is town.
I think I might be most suspicious of the ones who are not saying much a good mafia strategy let everyone else go at it while you stay in the background.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jul 11, 2021 17:50:26 GMT -5
To me, the dice roll vote is either aka being scum and knowing Double H is town and trying to get others to vote as a “Day 1 Random vote” or a truly random vote.
But, in a way it might have hurt us as I read it as a soft power role claim by Double H. So I’m not going to jump on that lynch train.
Also, my thinking could be totally wrong.
The only thing I have to go on is that so many people have agreed that a lynch is needed, but we haven’t made any progress on one. I’m probably guilty of that too. I’m going to reread the thread and see if there’s enough information to make a case anywhere.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jul 11, 2021 17:57:27 GMT -5
Ebwop aka Chutulu staying with his vote after all that does rub me the wrong way.
FOS: aka Chutulu
I’m positing from a phone so hopefully that code works
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Post by Dub H on Jul 11, 2021 18:01:30 GMT -5
To me, the dice roll vote is either aka being scum and knowing Double H is town and trying to get others to vote as a “Day 1 Random vote” or a truly random vote. But, in a way it might have hurt us as I read it as a soft power role claim by Double H. So I’m not going to jump on that lynch train. Also, my thinking could be totally wrong. The only thing I have to go on is that so many people have agreed that a lynch is needed, but we haven’t made any progress on one. I’m probably guilty of that too. I’m going to reread the thread and see if there’s enough information to make a case anywhere. While it could be,I dont think scum would try to be the first vote,it brings too much attention.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jul 11, 2021 18:10:03 GMT -5
To me, the dice roll vote is either aka being scum and knowing Double H is town and trying to get others to vote as a “Day 1 Random vote” or a truly random vote. But, in a way it might have hurt us as I read it as a soft power role claim by Double H. So I’m not going to jump on that lynch train. Also, my thinking could be totally wrong. The only thing I have to go on is that so many people have agreed that a lynch is needed, but we haven’t made any progress on one. I’m probably guilty of that too. I’m going to reread the thread and see if there’s enough information to make a case anywhere. While it could be,I dont think scum would try to be the first vote,it brings too much attention. I agree with you. Which is probably causing me even more confusion. Why wouldn’t he unvote you once people gave their insight? ——— Ok, hopefully this formatting works, since I cannot draw any other conclusions here. Post counts for the thread so far. This should give us insight on just exactly who has been active and who isn’t: Post Count As of 7-11 @ 4:05pm pst; Tyger Sabbath 23 Double H 16 RKTaker 13 The Brad 9 Zack Morris is Insane. 7 Jazzman 6 aka Cthulhu 6 Big Tony 6 Jonathan Michaels Still Exists 3 ——— I feel that with a game this size we probably have an inactive player and an active player as scum. Any thoughts?
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