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Post by Ringmaster on Jul 6, 2021 11:00:42 GMT -5
Welcome to the penitentiary, uso.
(I think this was used the last time he had a DUI.)
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 6, 2021 11:01:51 GMT -5
A handful of years ago, then-St. Louis Cardinals manager, and current Chicago White Sox manager, Tony LaRussa got a DUI because he fell asleep at a red light in Florida during Spring Training. I just remember being so angry about that. It's not that I judge people over DUIs very much; anyone can make a poor decision, the legal limit is lower than people realize, and I'll be the first to spend time ranting and raving about how states like Florida absolutely fail their residents and visitors by investing absolutely nothing in public transportation that might allow people to go have their fun and not endanger anyone in the process. But what I couldn't get over was that LaRussa was and is a @#$%ing multi-millionaire, yet he couldn't be bothered calling a damned cab. Like, if someone's an average worker or whatever I can get screwing up; you might be concerned about leaving your car somewhere overnight, afraid of the costs involved if you get towed, nothing that excuses making the decision to drink and drive but certainly factors that could play a role in making a poor decision. But someone as wealthy as LaRussa? What was his excuse? He could've had his car stripped for parts and it wouldn't have made a dent in his bank account. I figure Uso isn't quite as wealthy, but given his position in WWE I have to figure he's bringing in a decent pay day, certainly enough to not have to fret over what might happen to his car if he goes out and overindulges. And the fact he's been caught for this four times now is just a massive indictment of whatever thought process he's using. So yeah, dude needs help of some kind. I'm with those saying we can't fully judge whether his problem is purely a drinking one (who knows how often he gets that inebriated? I don't, so I'm not going to declare one way or another on it), but he clearly has a problem with making incredibly poor choices while inebriated, plus he's showing no responsibility or thoughts of planning ahead for times when he might get drunk. Like, if you're going to go out and getting hammered that's your business, but have a @#$%ing safe plan to get home before you start drinking. Think they might send him to .205 Live?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 11:03:38 GMT -5
Also here is the thing, I wouldn’t even fire him This is reaching Jeff Hardy territory of we have to babysit your ass and can’t allow you to have any freedom. He’s playing a dangerous game with his life and others and until I know he is in right frame of mind, he’s going to rehab and when he completes that he’s staying home permanently until I see fit Your brother and cousin don’t need you as part of their act anymore. You was supposed to get elevated and you fell all the way back. By sitting your ass on the shelf your professional career will dwindle away unless you get your shit together Yeah, you're right about this. Honestly letting him go is probably going to do him no good, he'll get worse and have more time to drink and drive. Keeping him in WWE, keeping him on a payroll and forcing him to go to rehab as his career loses light the longer he's like this is best. This is one case where WWE not letting someone go is beneficial for him and everyone involved. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 11:05:30 GMT -5
Honestly my attitude on it is forget his wellbeing, someone this actively dismissive of the danger they're causing to others deserves more than a slap on the wrist.
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Post by MrElijah on Jul 6, 2021 11:10:32 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2021 11:16:14 GMT -5
Also here is the thing, I wouldn’t even fire him This is reaching Jeff Hardy territory of we have to babysit your ass and can’t allow you to have any freedom. He’s playing a dangerous game with his life and others and until I know he is in right frame of mind, he’s going to rehab and when he completes that he’s staying home permanently until I see fit Your brother and cousin don’t need you as part of their act anymore. You was supposed to get elevated and you fell all the way back. By sitting your ass on the shelf your professional career will dwindle away unless you get your shit together Yeah, you're right about this. Honestly letting him go is probably going to do him no good, he'll get worse and have more time to drink and drive. Keeping him in WWE, keeping him on a payroll and forcing him to go to rehab as his career loses light the longer he's like this is best. This is one case where WWE not letting someone go is beneficial for him and everyone involved. This is going to be a major case of tough love and while some people may sneer and say it isn't tough love if he is still getting paid, taking him away from what he loves until he gets right is I'd rather control him and make him do what I want under the contract than release him into the wild to his own devices. Point blank, you will never wrestle again until you go to rehab and get clean and if you salty when your contract comes up, well too f***ing bad cause i'm extending it after you was off for a year with an injury He was home for a year and seemingly in a good spot but you wait until you get back wrestling to do this stupid shit. |
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Jul 6, 2021 11:17:35 GMT -5
Will he acknowledge Roman from his cell?
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Post by cosmo on Jul 6, 2021 11:17:37 GMT -5
Exactly! I even pointed that out a few posts up. But I figure if you’re too shitfaced to think to do that, you might as well make friends with somebody who’s abstaining just to be on the safe side. Oh, I'm completely with you! Sorry if it came across like I was "well actually...ing" you. I just feel like a DUI (much less multiple DUIs) is something you really can't give someone a pass for in 2021.
No offense taken. And you're right, too. After more than one DUI, you'd think Jey or Roman or Naomi or somebody would jerk a knot in Jimmy's ass and help him get his shit together.
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Post by Fade on Jul 6, 2021 11:24:12 GMT -5
He may be no bitch, but he is certainly a complete moron. Oh no, this makes him a bitch as well. Also here is the thing, I wouldn’t even fire him This is reaching Jeff Hardy territory of we have to babysit your ass and can’t allow you to have any freedom. He’s playing a dangerous game with his life and others and until I know he is in right frame of mind, he’s going to rehab and when he completes that he’s staying home permanently until I see fit Your brother and cousin don’t need you as part of their act anymore. You was supposed to get elevated and you fell all the way back. By sitting your ass on the shelf your professional career will dwindle away unless you get your shit together Yeah, you're right about this. Honestly letting him go is probably going to do him no good, he'll get worse and have more time to drink and drive. Keeping him in WWE, keeping him on a payroll and forcing him to go to rehab as his career loses light the longer he's like this is best. This is one case where WWE not letting someone go is beneficial for him and everyone involved. This is ridiculous thinking and I thought the same when ascribed to Jeff’s situation. These are adults. Not children. Adults. Making repeated offenses when they are endangering the lives of complete innocent strangers, endangering their own lives, and showing no remorse or thought to those that may love or depend on them. This kind of mentality is backwards and leans on enabling and making it worse. Personal accountability needs to occur. On their own accord. Or else it may never be. He does have a problem, I can get that but there becomes a time you stop feeling sorry for somebody. I can have compassion that the dude might not be able to stop himself from drinking but he does still have the ability to stop himself from driving while doing so. He’s endangering other people, being reckless and he’s going to get someone killed… In situations like this, closest thing to compassion comes in not “feeling bad for him” but expecting him to take accountability. This is a pattern. Something different needs to occur. |
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Post by nm on Jul 6, 2021 11:26:36 GMT -5
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Post by Ozman on Jul 6, 2021 11:29:19 GMT -5
I really hope Uce gets his shit together because alcoholism is nothing to play with.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jul 6, 2021 11:30:18 GMT -5
What is this, the third time? f*** this dude.
Mandatory in-patient rehab or release.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2021 11:34:06 GMT -5
Think they might send him to .205 Live? You got it with this You can change your name to anything you want now |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 6, 2021 11:34:21 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right about this. Honestly letting him go is probably going to do him no good, he'll get worse and have more time to drink and drive. Keeping him in WWE, keeping him on a payroll and forcing him to go to rehab as his career loses light the longer he's like this is best. This is one case where WWE not letting someone go is beneficial for him and everyone involved. This is ridiculous thinking and I thought the same when ascribed to Jeff’s situation. These are adults. Not children. Adults. Making repeated offenses when they are endangering the lives of complete innocent strangers, endangering their own lives, and showing no remorse or thought to those that may love or depend on them. This kind of mentality is backwards and leans on enabling and making it worse. Personal accountability needs to occur. On their own accord. Or else it may never be. Putting your foot down and saying "Get your ass into rehab" is not enabling. A lot of addicts are incapable of having personal accountability in this state, and need to get a certain amount of help with ultimatums and external pressure before they can regain any. That's how a lot of addicts end up trapped in the cycle of never getting help and repeatedly doing stuff like this. Being an adult doesn't make it easier to make these decisions. Denial is powerful. Addiction is very powerful, and not everyone is equopped to step back and realize they've gone too far. Even here. "It was an accident, I won't make the mistake again". "Nothing went wrong, I didn't hit anyone." A lot of addicts need those closest to them or those with some manner of power and leverage over them to force them into getting treatment; that's not nanny state shit, that's just the reality of how some addicts are wired. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 11:34:54 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right about this. Honestly letting him go is probably going to do him no good, he'll get worse and have more time to drink and drive. Keeping him in WWE, keeping him on a payroll and forcing him to go to rehab as his career loses light the longer he's like this is best. This is one case where WWE not letting someone go is beneficial for him and everyone involved. This is ridiculous thinking and I thought the same when ascribed to Jeff’s situation. These are adults. Not children. Adults. Making repeated offenses when they are endangering the lives of complete innocent strangers, endangering their own lives, and showing no remorse or thought to those that may love or depend on them. This kind of mentality is backwards and leans on enabling and making it worse. Personal accountability needs to occur. On their own accord. Or else it may never be. It's the exact opposite of ridiculous thinking. The whole point of my comment is them forcing him to go to rehab and to get help rather than letting him go and letting him wallow in his alcoholism. He's an adult but it's clear that he needs to be forced in order to get this handled and in the past we thought "well he's an adult, he'll get this taken care of" and what happened? Nothing. Now there's no more time to play around, we cannot let any innocents die by his stupidity so you force him. If anything your entire mindset's the idea that because he's an adult he needs to take responsibility with his actions but that's actually pretty stupid given he hasn't done it yet. If you let him go then he's got more time to drink and drive rather than keeping him on a leash and going to rehab which forces him to see what everyone else sees.
I don't know about you but I'm not letting Jimmy Uso decide if he needs to get help, I'm forcing him to get help whether he likes it or not. I don't care if you want him to decide, I'm not waiting till he runs over a kid in a road.
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Post by WIENERS=$$$ on Jul 6, 2021 11:35:21 GMT -5
Seriously, people saying this may OR MAY NOT be a drinking problem is insane!
There's a reason you go to jail for DUIs. Number one reason; IT ENDANGERS PEOPLE'S LIVES!
This has all the makings of another Benoit situation, and if WWE actually gave a damn they would permanently suspend this asshole until he fully completes AA and other forms of rehabilitation, including mandatory drug tests until he is done with the company. Christ, dock this moron's pay, maybe his bank account being thinner might help?
Guy gets FIVE DUIs, and people claiming it's not a drinking problem ffs.
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Post by thetower52 on Jul 6, 2021 11:38:24 GMT -5
f***ing fire this ass clown. 4 f***ing DUIs is absurd
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Post by cosmo on Jul 6, 2021 11:40:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 11:42:33 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right about this. Honestly letting him go is probably going to do him no good, he'll get worse and have more time to drink and drive. Keeping him in WWE, keeping him on a payroll and forcing him to go to rehab as his career loses light the longer he's like this is best. This is one case where WWE not letting someone go is beneficial for him and everyone involved. This is going to be a major case of tough love and while some people may sneer and say it isn't tough love if he is still getting paid, taking him away from what he loves until he gets right is I'd rather control him and make him do what I want under the contract than release him into the wild to his own devices. Point blank, you will never wrestle again until you go to rehab and get clean and if you salty when your contract comes up, well too f***ing bad cause i'm extending it after you was off for a year with an injury He was home for a year and seemingly in a good spot but you wait until you get back wrestling to do this stupid shit. Yeah they need to put the breaks on this. I don't wanna see him back on TV till he's finished rehab. It's clear he's got demons that he cannot handle so whatever it takes to cleanse them, do that. We can't waste anymore time. |
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Post by Fade on Jul 6, 2021 11:43:23 GMT -5
This is ridiculous thinking and I thought the same when ascribed to Jeff’s situation. These are adults. Not children. Adults. Making repeated offenses when they are endangering the lives of complete innocent strangers, endangering their own lives, and showing no remorse or thought to those that may love or depend on them. This kind of mentality is backwards and leans on enabling and making it worse. Personal accountability needs to occur. On their own accord. Or else it may never be. It's the exact opposite of ridiculous thinking. The whole point of my comment is them forcing him to go to rehab and to get help rather than letting him go and letting him wallow in his alcoholism. He's an adult but it's clear that he needs to be forced in order to get this handled and in the past we thought "well he's an adult, he'll get this taken care of" and what happened? Nothing. Now there's no more time to play around, we cannot let any innocents die by his stupidity so you force him. If anything your entire mindset's the idea that because he's an adult he needs to take responsibility with his actions but that's actually pretty stupid given he hasn't done it yet. If you let him go then he's got more time to drink and drive rather than keeping him on a leash and going to rehab which forces him to see what everyone else sees.
I don't know about you but I'm not letting Jimmy Uso decide if he needs to get help, I'm forcing him to get help whether he likes it or not. I don't care if you want him to decide, I'm not waiting till he runs over a kid in a road.
No one should be “forced” to handle a lack of personal responsibility. It doesn’t happen. It happens independently or it doesn’t happen at all. You said it yourself: “ in the past we thought "well he's an adult, he'll get this taken care of" and what happened? Nothing.”. Something different needs to occur. He should be released. I don’t understand the gist of much of your argument considering this is a pattern. It continues to happen over and over again. This is ridiculous thinking and I thought the same when ascribed to Jeff’s situation. These are adults. Not children. Adults. Making repeated offenses when they are endangering the lives of complete innocent strangers, endangering their own lives, and showing no remorse or thought to those that may love or depend on them. This kind of mentality is backwards and leans on enabling and making it worse. Personal accountability needs to occur. On their own accord. Or else it may never be. Putting your foot down and saying "Get your ass into rehab" is not enabling. A lot of addicts are incapable of having personal accountability in this state, and need to get a certain amount of help with ultimatums and external pressure before they can regain any. That's how a lot of addicts end up trapped in the cycle of never getting help and repeatedly doing stuff like this. Being an adult doesn't make it easier to make these decisions. Denial is powerful. Addiction is very powerful, and not everyone is equopped to step back and realize they've gone too far. Even here. "It was an accident, I won't make the mistake again". "Nothing went wrong, I didn't hit anyone." A lot of addicts need those closest to them or those with some manner of power and leverage over them to force them into getting treatment; that's not nanny state shit, that's just the reality of how some addicts are wired. Sounds like enabling to me. |
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