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Post by Fade on Jul 6, 2021 12:14:02 GMT -5
As others are mentioning, I don’t know what laws pertain to the state or what his track record of going to rehab/not going to rehab is or isn’t. But I see a reckless, continuous, repeated pattern. I think everyone’s in the same boat of he needs to go to rehab, the means are much more difficult. To my knowledge, he has not been through rehab and the company has not applied any pressure on him to get him into it. WWE using their leverage and babysitting him through his getting clean is what's being advocated for here. That’s one way of doing it, I suppose. Both are at blame then. Jimmy for repeatedly being an idiot and WWE for not applying pressure. The company hasn’t forced/had him go to rehab before? I’m genuinely asking. The fact that he hasn’t independently done it shows me an enabling is occurring. I think part of “forcing him” might be to release him. They haven't last I checked. I searched online to see if he had been prior but I couldn't find anything so I'm assuming he didn't go to rehab. Also, I'm not sure if it was him or his brother, but the last time one of them got in trouble WWE made a statement saying that their problems were their own problems or something like that so yeah, they've been given a lot of freedom regarding their issues. I don't even think they were depushed, last I checked they just kept them off tv but as soon as they got back on I think they were in a title picture.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 12:17:07 GMT -5
The elephant in the room is that the Usos seem, at least on the surface, to get preferential treatment from WWE due to their relation to the Rock and Reigns.
Remember, this is the same company who, within the same general window of time as the first Uso DUI fired Emma immediately over shoplifting allegations.
That’s a big part of the issue I have. It’s unconscionable that he’s managed to tally 2, much less 4, DUIs without any real intervention from his publicly traded employer.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2021 12:23:08 GMT -5
The elephant in the room is that the Usos seem, at least on the surface, to get preferential treatment from WWE due to their relation to the Rock and Reigns. Remember, this is the same company who, within the same general window of time as the first Uso DUI fired Emma immediately over shoplifting allegations. That’s a big part of the issue I have. It’s unconscionable that he’s managed to tally 2, much less 4, DUIs without any real intervention from his publicly traded employer. I mean sadly, that's life tho Paige didn't get fired when she got suspended and then got suspended again on her suspension and fought WWE in public about it |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 12:23:20 GMT -5
The elephant in the room is that the Usos seem, at least on the surface, to get preferential treatment from WWE due to their relation to the Rock and Reigns. Remember, this is the same company who, within the same general window of time as the first Uso DUI fired Emma immediately over shoplifting allegations. That’s a big part of the issue I have. It’s unconscionable that he’s managed to tally 2, much less 4, DUIs without any real intervention from his publicly traded employer. The difference is that the Rock and Reigns actually stick to the book and are perfect employees. I love The Usos in the ring but outside the ring they're like the dudes you know who clock in 10 mins after their shift starts. Jey's done his damnest to shake this stigma off, he's tried so hard and he was doing well but now because of his brother's f*** up he's going to have to pick up the slack again. Jimmy gotta get to rehab asap before it's too late. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 12:26:19 GMT -5
The elephant in the room is that the Usos seem, at least on the surface, to get preferential treatment from WWE due to their relation to the Rock and Reigns. Remember, this is the same company who, within the same general window of time as the first Uso DUI fired Emma immediately over shoplifting allegations. That’s a big part of the issue I have. It’s unconscionable that he’s managed to tally 2, much less 4, DUIs without any real intervention from his publicly traded employer. I mean sadly, that's life tho Paige didn't get fired when she got suspended and then got suspended again on her suspension and fought WWE in public about it Oh, I know, c'est la vie, but I felt that needed to be said amidst this conversation about whether or not WWE should intervene, here. |
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Post by nisidhe on Jul 6, 2021 12:28:02 GMT -5
No one should be “forced” to handle a lack of personal responsibility. It doesn’t happen. It happens independently or it doesn’t happen at all. You said it yourself: “ in the past we thought "well he's an adult, he'll get this taken care of" and what happened? Nothing.”. Something different needs to occur. He should be released. I don’t understand the gist of much of your argument considering this is a pattern. It continues to happen over and over again. You literally don't see how releasing him, putting him into a depression, giving him less time at work away from coworkers and his wife can give him more time to drink and drive? You can't see how that would be more harmful than the company keeping him on a leash and forcing him to go to rehab and facing his alcoholism? Which is something he has never done the entire time? You don't see the difference between these two?
The difference here is that he needs to go to rehab but in my scenario he's being forced to go to it and in yours he isn't because "he's an adult" and he hasn't done it in any of his adult years. I'm not letting Jimmy Uso decide he needs to go rehab when he can kill anyone anytime he steps on the road, I'm forcing him to because human lives are more important than his own decision making. This goes beyond his own thinking accountability. Sometimes you gotta force people to do what needs to be done.
Forcing any alcoholic into rehab will _not_ help. They have to want sobriety for recovery to succeed. It can't be the responsibility of Jimmy's coworkers, employer, brother or wife to keep him healthy and sober. Putting that on them a) removes from him his autonomy and dignity as an adult, b) shelters him from the consequences of his own actions, something he needs to experience before he can gain insight, and c) potentially foments growing resentment in those people because he's a grown-ass man whose disease is in his grasp alone (that and his Higher Power, for those who speak 12-Step). Maybe being given the choice of rehab or release will be his rock bottom; the prospect of some losses can be enough to scare him more than drinking will. Yes, the speculation of where that bottom is can be frightening af, and seeing it in public spaces is frustrating as hell. But, we didn't cause it; we can't control it; we can't cure it. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 6, 2021 12:28:04 GMT -5
Shouldn't this dickhead have a mandatory ignition interlock by now?
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Post by chaosschoolproject on Jul 6, 2021 12:51:46 GMT -5
Simply put, he's a moron. Its cheap to make comparisons from other countries but over here, on the first offence you are banned from driving for up to a year and can face imprisonment with an unlimited fine. All he gets is a slap on the wrist. He's been lucky that nothing tragic has happened. Would a tragedy fix his tune? If so, he really does have a major problem. This might be an issue WWE have to intervene as they can't have any further issues especially with them going back on the road. If he can't handle being at home working one show a week, how's he going to deal with the added pressure of the tour.
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Jul 6, 2021 12:52:09 GMT -5
I wonder what Naomi feels about all this? She trying to help him? She part of his problem? If I recall last time this happened she stuck by his side and got crappy with fans who would mention him needing rehab and to be fired etc….she has to have some say in all this
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 6, 2021 12:54:10 GMT -5
It’s one thing to be so f***ing stupid when you’re tag team filler, but when you’re in the middle of the biggest push you’re ever going to get?
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Post by koreycaskets on Jul 6, 2021 12:57:40 GMT -5
Maby not fire him but shelf him for 6 months to a year and make him do rehab. He has a serious real problem that if he was flat out released could and probably will get much worse.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 6, 2021 13:13:38 GMT -5
I have sympathy for someone dealing with substance problems, but you falling off the wagon doesn't necessarily mean falling off the wagon and into the driver's seat of a car. You can still get sloshed and give someone your car keys, or cab/uber to the bar so that you have to cab/uber home. Whatever problems someone has with substances deserves understanding and the proper help, but the fact that he hasn't figured out the driving part yet tells me he deserves to be fired. WWE can and will still help him in therapy, rehab, etc. But at some point, you have to punish significantly the decision-making in continuing to put himself in these scenarios. Hell, a lot of jobs will peace you out after one. This shit he's pulling is inexcusable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 13:16:00 GMT -5
He likely isn't get anything more than the usual slap on the wrist sadly.
It being his 5th DUI he should be fired without hesitation.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 6, 2021 13:19:03 GMT -5
Maby not fire him but shelf him for 6 months to a year and make him do rehab. He has a serious real problem that if he was flat out released could and probably will get much worse. Last time he got caught in 2019, he got put on the shelf for 6 months This time it needs to be a year and you hope you can get him to go to rehab in that time |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2021 13:20:17 GMT -5
You have to take him off tv or release him at this point. He is so lucky he hasn’t killed anyone or died.
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Post by madness50 on Jul 6, 2021 13:21:00 GMT -5
After this many DUI’s, he should never have a license again. He’s honestly going to get himself killed or someone else if this mess continues. Just a sad and infuriatingly irresponsible situation all around.
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Jul 6, 2021 13:27:02 GMT -5
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Post by Sigma: Current SRW Champ! on Jul 6, 2021 13:30:01 GMT -5
Jimmy Uso needs help. This is the fourth DUI in a short period of time. There has to be an ultimatum this time by WWE Brass where he goes to rehab, gets himself clean or he gets released before he hurts anybody, including himself.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 6, 2021 13:35:23 GMT -5
This better not be brought up again by John Cena like the last time he feuded with Roman.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 6, 2021 13:41:08 GMT -5
I have sympathy for someone dealing with substance problems, but you falling off the wagon doesn't necessarily mean falling off the wagon and into the driver's seat of a car. You can still get sloshed and give someone your car keys, or cab/uber to the bar so that you have to cab/uber home. Whatever problems someone has with substances deserves understanding and the proper help, but the fact that he hasn't figured out the driving part yet tells me he deserves to be fired. WWE can and will still help him in therapy, rehab, etc. But at some point, you have to punish significantly the decision-making in continuing to put himself in these scenarios. Hell, a lot of jobs will peace you out after one. This shit he's pulling is inexcusable. Right; I have no idea how much Jimmy drinks, how often, whether he feels he needs alcohol as a full physical addiction, etc., but what we clearly know is that he far too frequently goes out, drinks to excess, and has no plan whatsoever to responsibly deal with travel to and from wherever he's going that night. It's really just a level beyond; again, it can happen to just about anybody once, but if you've hit four times with this it just shows you have no intention of getting smarter about things. |
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