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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 21, 2021 23:37:36 GMT -5
I missed it did they say why he dropped Vickie? I don't think they have been explicit about it but it has been framed as Vickie being the one to bring him in rather than being a full time manager. Yeah, I kind of expect this was likely the plan, or at least an option considered. I dig it.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jul 22, 2021 0:35:12 GMT -5
I laughed at how Chavo got such a good reaction he kind of got lost in it and forgot about Andrade for a second.
Segment was clunky on behalf of both Chavo and Andrade but they’ll probably grow into it. Chavo was a great heel in LU.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 22, 2021 8:49:15 GMT -5
I missed it did they say why he dropped Vickie? I don't think they have been explicit about it but it has been framed as Vickie being the one to bring him in rather than being a full time manager. Per Meltzer on WOL live this was a change due to the negative reaction of Vickie being paired with Andrade. So this was a change made due to fan reaction and wanting someone who can talk for Andrade when needed
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Post by XIII on Jul 22, 2021 8:55:34 GMT -5
It’s pretty wild that Chavo was always kind of just there as one of the Latino wrestlers(when he wasn’t teaming with Eddie), but he’s pretty well outlasted all of them except for Rey.
Good for him.
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Post by markymark on Jul 22, 2021 10:02:34 GMT -5
Im also fine with Chavo being Andrades mouthpiece because not only he is an upgrade over Vickie but also he can eat the pins for Andrade.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 22, 2021 10:26:01 GMT -5
The response was huge. The sheer number of folks AEW has under contract is getting crazy. I'd be very curious to see what their talent payroll is looking like these days.
I also never thought Chavo was a good promo but we'll see how he does here. Lots of excitement from AEW lately.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 22, 2021 10:41:13 GMT -5
Always like Chavo, glad to see him get that reaction.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jul 22, 2021 10:52:11 GMT -5
The response was huge. The sheer number of folks AEW has under contract is getting crazy. I'd be very curious to see what their talent payroll is looking like these days. I also never thought Chavo was a good promo but we'll see how he does here. Lots of excitement from AEW lately. He's not amazing but he speaks clearly and in a good rhythm. Good for a mouth piece but not a guy who would do a money promo.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jul 22, 2021 10:54:25 GMT -5
I don't think they have been explicit about it but it has been framed as Vickie being the one to bring him in rather than being a full time manager. Per Meltzer on WOL live this was a change due to the negative reaction of Vickie being paired with Andrade. So this was a change made due to fan reaction and wanting someone who can talk for Andrade when needed Yeah, I thought so too. AEW is so good at cutting through BS negative reactions and legitimate ones. They saw that the Vickie and Andrade pairing wasn't working, and moved on it quick. Chavo has never been a great promo, but he is a guy that's very popular backstage on TV shows (at least in Lucha Underground and GLOW), and brings a lot of experience to the coaching aspects. I also hope he brings back Pepe someday.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jul 22, 2021 10:56:52 GMT -5
If this was an adjustment and not the plan, and I believe that despite my earlier surmising, then AEW moved impressively quickly. Andrade was speaking for himself with subtitles and teasing this reveal what, one show after his debut?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 22, 2021 10:59:04 GMT -5
Per Meltzer on WOL live this was a change due to the negative reaction of Vickie being paired with Andrade. So this was a change made due to fan reaction and wanting someone who can talk for Andrade when needed Yeah, I thought so too. AEW is so good at cutting through BS negative reactions and legitimate ones. They saw that the Vickie and Andrade pairing wasn't working, and moved on it quick. Chavo has never been a great promo, but he is a guy that's very popular backstage on TV shows (at least in Lucha Underground and GLOW), and brings a lot of experience to the coaching aspects. I also hope he brings back Pepe someday. I mentioned earlier I think Chavo is also a liaison to a lot of the luchadors in Mexico so he can be useful in that role. And while I don't mind Vickie, presentation wise with Andrade she didn't make sense. He is cool, suave, and above all tranquilo. Vickie's promo style does not suit him
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Post by toodarkmark on Jul 22, 2021 11:02:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought so too. AEW is so good at cutting through BS negative reactions and legitimate ones. They saw that the Vickie and Andrade pairing wasn't working, and moved on it quick. Chavo has never been a great promo, but he is a guy that's very popular backstage on TV shows (at least in Lucha Underground and GLOW), and brings a lot of experience to the coaching aspects. I also hope he brings back Pepe someday. I mentioned earlier I think Chavo is also a liaison to a lot of the luchadors in Mexico so he can be useful in that role. And while I don't mind Vickie, presentation wise with Andrade she didn't make sense. He is cool, suave, and above all tranquilo. Vickie's promo style does not suit him Yeah, she's good to get under the skin of people. Andrade is a Black Mask kind of heel. He moves in silence. She's more of a Joker/Harley Quinn type of heel. Her skill is to annoy, and he doesn't need that as part of his heel thing. He's a Four Horsemen archetype, and needed a more JJ Dillon/Ole Anderson guy.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 22, 2021 11:02:49 GMT -5
Bless Lizuka for incorporating the theme into his title because that for sure I thought about when I heard about this.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 22, 2021 11:55:30 GMT -5
I don't think they have been explicit about it but it has been framed as Vickie being the one to bring him in rather than being a full time manager. Per Meltzer on WOL live this was a change due to the negative reaction of Vickie being paired with Andrade. So this was a change made due to fan reaction and wanting someone who can talk for Andrade when needed I'm gonna assume they rethought Vickie as Andrade's manager the second she botched his debut via screaming his name incomprehensibly To AEW's credit man they definitely move fast when it comes to changing something and most of the time it is absolutely for the better.
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Post by salz4life on Jul 22, 2021 11:57:54 GMT -5
Kind of off topic..... but I assume Andrade/Chavo are going to bring a couple guys in to fight Death Triangle right.... or is a Penta/Fenix turn the endgame?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 22, 2021 12:02:28 GMT -5
Kind of off topic..... but I assume Andrade/Chavo are going to bring a couple guys in to fight Death Triangle right.... or is a Penta/Fenix turn the endgame? I'm still betting on some combo of Rush, Naoto, and La Mascara to show up
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Post by RKTaker on Jul 22, 2021 12:25:29 GMT -5
Kind of off topic..... but I assume Andrade/Chavo are going to bring a couple guys in to fight Death Triangle right.... or is a Penta/Fenix turn the endgame? I'm still betting on some combo of Rush, Naoto, and La Mascara to show up is Rush still under contract with ROH?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 22, 2021 12:37:22 GMT -5
I'm still betting on some combo of Rush, Naoto, and La Mascara to show up is Rush still under contract with ROH? He signed an extension I don't know how long it was for... someone told me it was through December but I dunno
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 22, 2021 12:39:08 GMT -5
Chavo definitely fits his aesthetic. Someone with class who can become violent when needed.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 22, 2021 13:22:06 GMT -5
Kind of off topic..... but I assume Andrade/Chavo are going to bring a couple guys in to fight Death Triangle right.... or is a Penta/Fenix turn the endgame? Have to imagine someone is coming in on Andrade's side at least in the short game. He looks like he wants to reform an American branch of LIJ pretty badly. He namedropped Tranquillo quite a lot...
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