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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 25, 2021 22:07:58 GMT -5
I still don't see the obsession with trading the picks + Wiseman. I'd rather let him get him some seasoning and play time as a stretch 5 and add to the team's depth with some talent by staying pat. But I'm not the Warriors' GM, so *shrug*. Because Klay 31 and coming off 2 missed seasons from an ACL and Achilles injury, Steph Curry is 33 and Draymond is 31 and he is the one that has been slowing down for a few seasons They don't have time to wait for Wiseman when his stock his high and they can get an All Star for him now Wiseman could be a Superstar 5 years from now but their core 3 either won't be the same players or probably wont be on the team during that time
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2021 9:29:28 GMT -5
Woj cleared the air on the Beal trade speculation
He said Beal has talked to the Wizards front office and has given no indication or expressed frustration in that he wants a trade
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Post by sfvega on Jul 26, 2021 13:37:23 GMT -5
Even if it isn't true that they can't get in touch with him, this is bad. Ben should be working his ass off to not f***ing embarrass himself like he JUST did to end last season. That's the difference between Giannis, who puts in work constantly and everyone roots for, and Ben who everyone makes fun of. His issues may be mental, but if you're not wanting to put in the work with the staff in Philly, then either it might not be mental or it might not only be mental. Ben has been accused of not having the drive of a champion, and it certainly feels like it rings true. They've tried to handle his FT/3 issues with baby gloves before, I'd throw that shit out and say if you're not HERE shooting 200 FTs and 150 threes a day, we're trading your ass for someone who is 1/5th the player you are tomorrow period.
Nothing is more frustrating than someone with all the talent in the world who just doesn't care to get any better.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2021 13:43:23 GMT -5
Even if it isn't true that they can't get in touch with him, this is bad. Ben should be working his ass off to not f***ing embarrass himself like he JUST did to end last season. That's the difference between Giannis, who puts in work constantly and everyone roots for, and Ben who everyone makes fun of. His issues may be mental, but if you're not wanting to put in the work with the staff in Philly, then either it might not be mental or it might not only be mental. Ben has been accused of not having the drive of a champion, and it certainly feels like it rings true. They've tried to handle his FT/3 issues with baby gloves before, I'd throw that shit out and say if you're not HERE shooting 200 FTs and 150 threes a day, we're trading your ass for someone who is 1/5th the player you are tomorrow period. Nothing is more frustrating than someone with all the talent in the world who just doesn't care to get any better. 76ers only have themselves to blame All that gaslighting and letting Ben "play his game" has bit them in the ass instead of pushing him to do what he is supposed to do. We've seen the last few offseasons of him taking 3's in practice and when the season starts nothing. I've said before I would been started fining him as a locker room leader if he wasn't taking one 3 a game
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Post by sfvega on Jul 26, 2021 14:22:18 GMT -5
Even if it isn't true that they can't get in touch with him, this is bad. Ben should be working his ass off to not f***ing embarrass himself like he JUST did to end last season. That's the difference between Giannis, who puts in work constantly and everyone roots for, and Ben who everyone makes fun of. His issues may be mental, but if you're not wanting to put in the work with the staff in Philly, then either it might not be mental or it might not only be mental. Ben has been accused of not having the drive of a champion, and it certainly feels like it rings true. They've tried to handle his FT/3 issues with baby gloves before, I'd throw that shit out and say if you're not HERE shooting 200 FTs and 150 threes a day, we're trading your ass for someone who is 1/5th the player you are tomorrow period. Nothing is more frustrating than someone with all the talent in the world who just doesn't care to get any better. 76ers only have themselves to blame All that gaslighting and letting Ben "play his game" has bit them in the ass instead of pushing him to do what he is supposed to do. We've seen the last few offseasons of him taking 3's in practice and when the season starts nothing. I've said before I would been started fining him as a locker room leader if he wasn't taking one 3 a game I mean, it took a while for Ibaka, Lopez, Giannis, LeBron to a lesser extent, even D Wade to shoot 3s. It's more the fact that his midrange game is the same as when he was a rookie, his FTs are only slightly better than when he was a rookie, his 3s are the same as when he was a rookie. He clearly hasn't worked on his all-around game at all, and he's 25. Even dudes that come in raw as hell have progressed in 6 years. He's the same guy. He didn't need to become a consistent 3 point shooter by now. But taking them, making FT at a 70% clip (which is attainable) and being able to consistently knock down 18-20 footers is a reasonable progression by now. He's way below the floor of what he should be rn. I was fine with his lack of progression 2 years ago, he was still on track to be fine. Everyone knows about that "3rd year magic." But something should have happened by now. It isn't just that he's got issues in his head, he's not putting the work in at all. He should have been in contact with them the day after the season ended. Jordan was putting in more work on the set of Space Jam than Ben is coming off one of the bigger failures in the NBA in recent memory. That speaks to a lack of 'want' that I would not want anywhere near my franchise.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2021 14:31:45 GMT -5
76ers only have themselves to blame All that gaslighting and letting Ben "play his game" has bit them in the ass instead of pushing him to do what he is supposed to do. We've seen the last few offseasons of him taking 3's in practice and when the season starts nothing. I've said before I would been started fining him as a locker room leader if he wasn't taking one 3 a game I mean, it took a while for Ibaka, Lopez, Giannis, LeBron to a lesser extent, even D Wade to shoot 3s. It's more the fact that his midrange game is the same as when he was a rookie, his FTs are only slightly better than when he was a rookie, his 3s are the same as when he was a rookie. He clearly hasn't worked on his all-around game at all, and he's 25. Even dudes that come in raw as hell have progressed in 6 years. He's the same guy. He didn't need to become a consistent 3 point shooter by now. But taking them, making FT at a 70% clip (which is attainable) and being able to consistently knock down 18-20 footers is a reasonable progression by now. He's way below the floor of what he should be rn. I was fine with his lack of progression 2 years ago, he was still on track to be fine. Everyone knows about that "3rd year magic." But something should have happened by now. It isn't just that he's got issues in his head, he's not putting the work in at all. He should have been in contact with them the day after the season ended. Jordan was putting in more work on the set of Space Jam than Ben is coming off one of the bigger failures in the NBA in recent memory. That speaks to a lack of 'want' that I would not want anywhere near my franchise. He's comfortable, too comfortable Like I said that lies on Philly. He shouldn't be a PG, he needs to be a Draymond Green point forward type where he can make plays be he isn't dominating the ball. I see some people trying to argue Philly shouldn't be "emotional" and sell low on Ben but imo they can still get a good value for him. Someone will get on his ass about no fulfilling his potential. He should be something like Giannis and LeBron is at his size. They get in the paint at will and have a little floater or very least have something in the paint and Giannis is not afraid to take that elbow jumper Ben Simmons has MVP potential. He just needs someone to be on his back because he clearly doesn't have a drive to do it on his own
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Post by Rican on Jul 26, 2021 15:31:29 GMT -5
DRAFT WEEK LETS GO
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2021 15:38:51 GMT -5
Good trade for both sides. Adams is a better fit and Memphis can try to move Bledsoe by using that Lakers pick to someone else More importantly, NO cleared a lot of cap and it didn't cost them a lot. They are real players for Lowry now and they can move Hayes to start position and not spend a lot on a backup Center
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2021 16:04:18 GMT -5
Utah possibly looking to not pay the cap tax which I think is BS if their owner is being that cheap
They are reported to having interest in moving Ingles, Bogdonavic and O'Neale while making it a priority to retain Mike Conley
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 26, 2021 17:30:00 GMT -5
:::eating popcorn eagerly waiting to see the Kings awful win-now move(s) for Buddy / Bagley / #9 ::::
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2021 19:39:45 GMT -5
DeRozan has said he is open to playing in L.A. with Bron and AD
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Post by sfvega on Jul 26, 2021 20:14:04 GMT -5
Amazing deal for N.O. They get rid of Bledsoe who is terrible, add JV who is exactly what they need, and it only costs them #10 and a non-lottery pick. They needed a scoring stretch big in the worst way and JV is very underrated at that.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jul 26, 2021 20:43:12 GMT -5
Even if it isn't true that they can't get in touch with him, this is bad. Ben should be working his ass off to not f***ing embarrass himself like he JUST did to end last season. That's the difference between Giannis, who puts in work constantly and everyone roots for, and Ben who everyone makes fun of. His issues may be mental, but if you're not wanting to put in the work with the staff in Philly, then either it might not be mental or it might not only be mental. Ben has been accused of not having the drive of a champion, and it certainly feels like it rings true. They've tried to handle his FT/3 issues with baby gloves before, I'd throw that shit out and say if you're not HERE shooting 200 FTs and 150 threes a day, we're trading your ass for someone who is 1/5th the player you are tomorrow period. Nothing is more frustrating than someone with all the talent in the world who just doesn't care to get any better. I kinda think Ben Simmons is just the bball version of like a Jeff George/Jay Cutler,but I can't really blame him blowing off the organazation when they have been leaking they want to trade him since they were eliminated. If he tanks his trade value it only helps his future team
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2021 20:54:12 GMT -5
Even if it isn't true that they can't get in touch with him, this is bad. Ben should be working his ass off to not f***ing embarrass himself like he JUST did to end last season. That's the difference between Giannis, who puts in work constantly and everyone roots for, and Ben who everyone makes fun of. His issues may be mental, but if you're not wanting to put in the work with the staff in Philly, then either it might not be mental or it might not only be mental. Ben has been accused of not having the drive of a champion, and it certainly feels like it rings true. They've tried to handle his FT/3 issues with baby gloves before, I'd throw that shit out and say if you're not HERE shooting 200 FTs and 150 threes a day, we're trading your ass for someone who is 1/5th the player you are tomorrow period. Nothing is more frustrating than someone with all the talent in the world who just doesn't care to get any better. I kinda think Ben Simmons is just the bball version of like a Jeff George/Jay Cutler,but I can't really blame him blowing off the organazation when they have been leaking they want to trade him since they were eliminated. If he tanks his trade value it only helps his future team Nah he owes a lot to them For the last 2 seasons, they have defended him when his offensive game has remained the same since his rookie year. People have said him and Embiid won't work after last season and they were stubborn in their ways and it bit them Simmons has no excuses when he himself has also said smart as remarks when people talked about his offensive game
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Post by tenshi on Jul 26, 2021 23:02:46 GMT -5
DeRozan has said he is open to playing in L.A. with Bron and AD He said that he wants to compete and that he wouldn't mind playing for the Purple and Gold because that's what kids his age wanted to do when they watched Kobe play. As far as how a Spurs/Lakers trade might go down, San Antonio would aim to get #22 as part of the deal while getting the best return they can get. The Lakers are top heavy but they might have a few pieces to use on a good trade or two... just not something good enough to land a Kyle Lowry or a Damien Lillard, as some of their fans would want to happen.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 27, 2021 8:32:24 GMT -5
Knicks reportedly offered the 19 and 21 for the Warriors 14 pick and Warriors rejected it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 9:14:40 GMT -5
Lowry S&T for Simmons is probably better than anything Morey could get for Ben at this point, but he'll probably hold out for more.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 27, 2021 9:31:15 GMT -5
Lowry S&T for Simmons is probably better than anything Morey could get for Ben at this point, but he'll probably hold out for more. Highly doubt 76ers do that. That's trading in your own division and would have to see him 4 times a year
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 9:48:44 GMT -5
Lowry S&T for Simmons is probably better than anything Morey could get for Ben at this point, but he'll probably hold out for more. Highly doubt 76ers do that. That's trading in your own division and would have to see him 4 times a year Rumor was Morey was asking for Fred, Anunoby, and a pick for Simmons which Toronto turned down, so yeah, they won't accept Lowry. I'm just saying I don't think they can do better than that after the playoffs Ben had. No other team is giving up a star (Lillard, Beal) for a max player who won't shoot and not sure teams will be lining up to trade picks either.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 27, 2021 10:07:46 GMT -5
The Athletic says the Kings are exploring “Win now” moves.
I cannot wait until they shit the bed (again) and end up “Winning now” to the 11th seed, missing the playoffs, and having zero plan for the future.
Life of a Kings fan. Smh fml
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