|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 11:59:34 GMT -5
Raptors could be playing 76ers type mind games with the league Rumors coming out they will surprise everyone and take F Scottie Barnes but everyone and their mother expects them to take Jalen Suggs. That will create a real interesting situation for Orlando if they have Suggs in their lap That sounds like a dream scenario for me. That would make my whole offseason no matter who we take at 8 I still think Toronto is taking Suggs but if he falls in Orlando lap I do think they take him Otherwise I still see Scottie Barnes and Moses Moody as the picks
|
|
|
Post by jjohns828 on Jul 29, 2021 12:06:35 GMT -5
That sounds like a dream scenario for me. That would make my whole offseason no matter who we take at 8 I still think Toronto is taking Suggs but if he falls in Orlando lap I do think they take him Otherwise I still see Scottie Barnes and Moses Moody as the picks I agree Barnes is the most likely pick at 5. I’d hate it but it’s what I’m expecting.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 12:11:57 GMT -5
I still think Toronto is taking Suggs but if he falls in Orlando lap I do think they take him Otherwise I still see Scottie Barnes and Moses Moody as the picks I agree Barnes is the most likely pick at 5. I’d hate it but it’s what I’m expecting. It's a gamble and he has risen up the board Look at it like this, Orlando is clearly in the Philly approach right now. They are going to keep swinging on these picks and tanking until they get their guy
|
|
|
Post by jjohns828 on Jul 29, 2021 12:21:27 GMT -5
I agree Barnes is the most likely pick at 5. I’d hate it but it’s what I’m expecting. It's a gamble and he has risen up the board Look at it like this, Orlando is clearly in the Philly approach right now. They are going to keep swinging on these picks and tanking until they get their guy I agree that is the approach and that’s part of my problem with Barnes. I think we need to take a big swing on both picks and I personally see him as a guy with a good floor but not a great ceiling. I would prefer taking a player I think has more upside even if there is a far greater risk of a complete bust.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 12:32:42 GMT -5
It's a gamble and he has risen up the board Look at it like this, Orlando is clearly in the Philly approach right now. They are going to keep swinging on these picks and tanking until they get their guy I agree that is the approach and that’s part of my problem with Barnes. I think we need to take a big swing on both picks and I personally see him as a guy with a good floor but not a great ceiling. I would prefer taking a player I think has more upside even if there is a far greater risk of a complete bust. Even if his ceiling isn't high, he still has value Like what Philly did, you trade them Year 2 or so if they aren't looking like superstars but are still good decent players who can contribute. Baring injury, Barnes will or should have plenty time to contribute and if he is a solid rotation player they can move him elsewhere for another pick and keep doing the process until they land the people they need It's going to be a 3 year process at least where they need to land a superstar
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 12:38:09 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 12:39:24 GMT -5
Philly told the Spurs they wanted 4 First, 3 Swaps and a young player for Ben Simmons
They def tried to get the Harden type deal. Bring it down to 2 First and 2 Swap and I think Spurs do it
|
|
|
Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 29, 2021 12:41:02 GMT -5
The Pistons have decided not to “Vlade” themselves and are going Cade.
|
|
|
Post by jjohns828 on Jul 29, 2021 12:55:15 GMT -5
I agree that is the approach and that’s part of my problem with Barnes. I think we need to take a big swing on both picks and I personally see him as a guy with a good floor but not a great ceiling. I would prefer taking a player I think has more upside even if there is a far greater risk of a complete bust. Even if his ceiling isn't high, he still has value Like what Philly did, you trade them Year 2 or so if they aren't looking like superstars but are still good decent players who can contribute. Baring injury, Barnes will or should have plenty time to contribute and if he is a solid rotation player they can move him elsewhere for another pick and keep doing the process until they land the people they need It's going to be a 3 year process at least where they need to land a superstar I really don't disagree with your overall point of the Magic's direction and what they should be doing with their picks. I just personally don't think Barnes is the right choice even in that scenario. I know I was hating the possibility of drafting Kuminga when the lottery happened and I'm still not super high on him but I'd still take him over Barnes because I can see an outside shot of him becoming a star where I personally don't see that level of upside in Barnes.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 12:57:18 GMT -5
Knicks could get Terrence Ross tonight
They got 4 picks tonight 19, 21, 32 and 58
Assuming they get the deal done I can see 21 and 32 for Ross which wouldn't be a bad deal. Allows them to lessen the blow of losing either Burks, Bullock or both. And probably cools them off on a guy like Evan Fournier who they were interested in
|
|
|
Post by jjohns828 on Jul 29, 2021 12:59:30 GMT -5
Knicks could get Terrence Ross tonight They got 4 picks tonight 19, 21, 32 and 58 Assuming they get the deal done I can see 21 and 32 for Ross which wouldn't be a bad deal. Allows them to lessen the blow of losing either Burks, Bullock or both. And probably cools them off on a guy like Evan Fournier who they were interested in I’d hate to lose Ross as he’s a great locker room veteran that gets along with our current young players, and you need some of those even with a full rebuild, but if I deal like that is available the Magic have to take it.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 13:03:05 GMT -5
Even if his ceiling isn't high, he still has value Like what Philly did, you trade them Year 2 or so if they aren't looking like superstars but are still good decent players who can contribute. Baring injury, Barnes will or should have plenty time to contribute and if he is a solid rotation player they can move him elsewhere for another pick and keep doing the process until they land the people they need It's going to be a 3 year process at least where they need to land a superstar I really don't disagree with your overall point of the Magic's direction and what they should be doing with their picks. I just personally don't think Barnes is the right choice even in that scenario. I know I was hating the possibility of drafting Kuminga when the lottery happened and I'm still not super high on him but I'd still take him over Barnes because I can see an outside shot of him becoming a star where I personally don't see that level of upside in Barnes. Only reason I think they don't go Kuminga is because they may feel they could grab him at 8 as well since he is sliding Barnes just fits better in their current direction but I don't disagree that Kuminga has high upside but it is the weird thing of choosing upside and "sure thing". Barnes will fit as a defensive piece and a good passer and if he develops an offensive game he will be a great contributor but he doesn't have that superstar factor that Kuminga could possibly tap into so I don't disagree with you there You want the bigger risk for the bigger reward
|
|
Rican
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
July 17, 2011 - HHHe called it
Posts: 16,420
|
Post by Rican on Jul 29, 2021 14:07:34 GMT -5
Interesting. I'm cool with getting Kuzma and a pick.
|
|
Rican
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
July 17, 2011 - HHHe called it
Posts: 16,420
|
Post by Rican on Jul 29, 2021 14:10:28 GMT -5
Some good NBA stuff from the Onion today lmao
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 14:15:20 GMT -5
Interesting. I'm cool with getting Kuzma and a pick. Spurs would def take something for nothing Hield to Lakers seems more likely tho since they need the shooting tho that's there one big piece to move and Hield has a high salary so Lakers must believe he can be that starter or sixth man to help them
|
|
tenshi
Patti Mayonnaise
Probably more memorable than a Charlotte title reign
Posts: 33,744
|
Post by tenshi on Jul 29, 2021 14:19:42 GMT -5
Interesting. I'm cool with getting Kuzma and a pick. Spurs would def take something for nothing Hield to Lakers seems more likely tho since they need the shooting tho that's there one big piece to move and Hield has a high salary so Lakers must believe he can be that starter or sixth man to help them Kuzma and #22 for DeRozan? Because Atlanta is supposedly shopping #20 and Can Reddish for a late lottery pick and San Antonio has #12...
|
|
Rican
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
July 17, 2011 - HHHe called it
Posts: 16,420
|
Post by Rican on Jul 29, 2021 14:24:45 GMT -5
Spurs would def take something for nothing Hield to Lakers seems more likely tho since they need the shooting tho that's there one big piece to move and Hield has a high salary so Lakers must believe he can be that starter or sixth man to help them Kuzma and #22 for DeRozan? Because Atlanta is supposedly shopping #20 and Can Reddish for a late lottery pick and San Antonio has #12... I’d do that if Sengun and Kai are both gone and someone I like is still available at 20. Hield to the Lakers is probably more likely since it doesn’t hard cap the Lakers, but if DeMar really wants to go there I don’t see another way it happens if not via sign and trade. He may be willing to take a paycut but he’s not taking the MLE.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 29, 2021 15:47:05 GMT -5
Spurs would def take something for nothing Hield to Lakers seems more likely tho since they need the shooting tho that's there one big piece to move and Hield has a high salary so Lakers must believe he can be that starter or sixth man to help them Kuzma and #22 for DeRozan? Because Atlanta is supposedly shopping #20 and Can Reddish for a late lottery pick and San Antonio has #12... Kuzma and KCP with the 22 for DeRozan is more ideal Pop would love two rotation players and a pick but I think they take the Hield deal. They need shooting. I don't see DeRozan taking an MLE either, he is worth more unless he really wants to win Plus I don't even think Lakers have a MLE this year anyway
|
|
|
Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 29, 2021 15:54:15 GMT -5
Lmao the Sixers asking price for Simmons. They tried Wiseman/Wiggins and FOUR FIRSTS from the Warriors.
|
|
|
Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 29, 2021 16:07:27 GMT -5
Looks like Buddy for Kuzma and Montrezl.
Meh… I wanted the pick most.
—
LOL NVM they’re getting Westbrook instead!
|
|