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Post by J is Justice on Nov 23, 2021 7:27:43 GMT -5
One of the worst gimmicks I've ever seen. Nikki deserves better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 7:43:30 GMT -5
One of the worst gimmicks I've ever seen. Nikki deserves better. It’s her gimmick. She pitched it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 23, 2021 8:09:54 GMT -5
One of the worst gimmicks I've ever seen. Nikki deserves better. It’s her gimmick. She pitched it. And they showed what they thought of her idea pretty quickly.
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Post by mistery on Nov 23, 2021 8:16:17 GMT -5
It’s her gimmick. She pitched it. And they showed what they thought of her idea pretty quickly. I mean there is no chance in hell this would get over in ANY promotion outside of Chikara (which is dead).
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 23, 2021 8:18:32 GMT -5
And they showed what they thought of her idea pretty quickly. I mean there is no chance in hell this would get over in ANY promotion outside of Chikara (which is dead). I mean, it’d have a better shot anywhere else because they’d be able to work and promote it more, I guarantee you that. Like, for as bad as it was, Super Eric at least was over. There was an arc to it and why Eric needed Super Eric. It was lousy and cheesy but it was there.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 23, 2021 9:14:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I was an early defender of the gimmick and it's obvious she's not a priority anymore. However, I still don't think you can deem a gimmick that got her a MITB run, a women's title run and a tag title run a complete failure for the performer. I suspect she'll be on the lower end of the card now, but that's still better than where she was prior to where this all started.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 23, 2021 9:17:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I was an early defender of the gimmick and it's obvious she's not a priority anymore. However, I still don't think you can deem a gimmick that got her a MITB run, a women's title run and a tag title run a complete failure for the performer. I suspect she'll be on the lower end of the card now, but that's still better than where she was prior to where this all started. I think it just comes down to how important it seems in the wider context. She won the belt in yet another fluke lucky cash in, she lost more times she won as champion and was mostly seen as a complete non-factor in the continuing Charlotte/Rhea feud and her women's tag title run was only with her because they had literally nobody else and kept firing everyone else too. So from my vantage point, the only thing that changed was that she wore yellow instead of black.
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Post by anglarite on Nov 23, 2021 9:23:48 GMT -5
I still hold into some hope that this is heading towards Nikki DSV (Definitely Super Villain) which will come with a power upgrade and plowing through the division...
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Nov 23, 2021 11:01:06 GMT -5
It’s dumbfounding how someone who won MITB, a World title and a tag title all in one year, can still seem so poorly booked. If you didn’t look at storylines and strictly results, then she’s a Women’s wrestler of the Year contender. But yet she’s still so poorly booked. That is insane to me.
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Post by Totorob101 on Nov 23, 2021 11:27:03 GMT -5
A heel turn would do a world of good for Nikki and her character,a darker more violent Nikki would be more badass and more over,but then I think Rhea needs a heel turn as well as her face persona just isn't going anywhere. Being a babyface,especially in the women's division,is a career killer and vince has made it clear that nice guys finish last in WWE now.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Nov 23, 2021 11:33:02 GMT -5
This gimmick is terrible but Nikki probably saved her job for a while with it at least. Based on the amount of people let go this year, she definitely would've at least been considered given they were doing nothing with her. Now at least she has something that they put on TV and market to kids. Now she could still be cut at some point in the next year but at least she saved herself some time in that case.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 12:28:43 GMT -5
It’s her gimmick. She pitched it. And they showed what they thought of her idea pretty quickly. Yeah, I highly doubt this is what she had in mind.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Nov 23, 2021 12:36:35 GMT -5
And they showed what they thought of her idea pretty quickly. Yeah, I highly doubt this is what she had in mind. "I wanna teach kids that if you work hard and believe in yourself, you can eek out a couple of fluke victories only to get your ass handed to you in fair competition. Then if you get a competent friend, the two of you can achieve something, but everyone will talk about how you're clinging to your friend's coattails, until you ultimately fail again."
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Post by ANuclearError on Nov 23, 2021 12:39:23 GMT -5
And they showed what they thought of her idea pretty quickly. I mean there is no chance in hell this would get over in ANY promotion outside of Chikara (which is dead). Granted, I'm only casually familiar with the promotions, but I could definitely see room for this type of gimmick in both Stardom and TJPW. I wouldn't suspect it would work in AEW, but I reckon that Nikki is self-aware enough to stick to her old Best in the Galaxy motif from the indie days in that environment anyway.
She wanted to do a gimmick aimed specifically at kids in a promotion catering to a 70 year old man. Is it really a surprise it ended up this way?
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Post by mistery on Nov 23, 2021 12:48:45 GMT -5
I mean there is no chance in hell this would get over in ANY promotion outside of Chikara (which is dead). Granted, I'm only casually familiar with the promotions, but I could definitely see room for this type of gimmick in both Stardom and TJPW. I wouldn't suspect it would work in AEW, but I reckon that Nikki is self-aware enough to stick to her old Best in the Galaxy motif from the indie days in that environment anyway.
She wanted to do a gimmick aimed specifically at kids in a promotion catering to a 70 year old man. Is it really a surprise it ended up this way?
I don't think it would fit in with STARDOM at all. TJPW maybe, but only really a midcard gimmick at best. And while its not surprising it ended up this way, even younger kids weren't interested in this gimmick. Even characters like Peppa Pig have more edge to them than whatever Nikki ASH is.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Nov 23, 2021 12:54:50 GMT -5
I mean there is no chance in hell this would get over in ANY promotion outside of Chikara (which is dead). Granted, I'm only casually familiar with the promotions, but I could definitely see room for this type of gimmick in both Stardom and TJPW. I wouldn't suspect it would work in AEW, but I reckon that Nikki is self-aware enough to stick to her old Best in the Galaxy motif from the indie days in that environment anyway.
She wanted to do a gimmick aimed specifically at kids in a promotion catering to a 70 year old man. Is it really a surprise it ended up this way?
This gimmick basically already worked in TJPW. Hyper Misao was also a dork who wanted to be a superhero, was all aspirational about it. Big differences included not getting rocketed to the top only to tumble, and getting some substantial moral victories (like getting a death match legend to regret agreeing to a death match with her) before going dark and evil for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2021 16:51:20 GMT -5
She's a real loser after last week's show, getting dunked on by a 70+ year old pervert.
And probably turning heel soon.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 14, 2021 18:44:12 GMT -5
She's a real loser after last week's show, getting dunked on by a 70+ year old pervert. And probably turning heel soon. The sad part is, that description could apply to so many people involved in wrestling,I dont even know who you are refering too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2021 19:18:19 GMT -5
She's a real loser after last week's show, getting dunked on by a 70+ year old pervert. And probably turning heel soon. The sad part is, that description could apply to so many people involved in wrestling,I dont even know who you are refering too. Last week, after losing to Zelina Vega, they did this spot where some random woman went "You're my favorite person!" and Rhea Ripley goes, "See, Nikki? People still like you", only for the person to go "Who the f*** are you?! I'm talking about Jerry Lawler." And then Jerry goes "You want an autograph, too?" The fact that Nikki ended up costing Rhea a victory against Vega this week did no favors.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 14, 2021 19:29:21 GMT -5
Granted, I'm only casually familiar with the promotions, but I could definitely see room for this type of gimmick in both Stardom and TJPW. I wouldn't suspect it would work in AEW, but I reckon that Nikki is self-aware enough to stick to her old Best in the Galaxy motif from the indie days in that environment anyway.
She wanted to do a gimmick aimed specifically at kids in a promotion catering to a 70 year old man. Is it really a surprise it ended up this way?
This gimmick basically already worked in TJPW. Hyper Misao was also a dork who wanted to be a superhero, was all aspirational about it. Big differences included not getting rocketed to the top only to tumble, and getting some substantial moral victories (like getting a death match legend to regret agreeing to a death match with her) before going dark and evil for a while. I mean wannabe superhero got over IN the WWE too... they just have to like... try... but WWE can't even get straight forward characters over anymore... anything that needs any kinda nuance is doomed.
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