khali
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Post by khali on Aug 1, 2021 12:16:01 GMT -5
I totally get it if it’s because of the due date. I’m just surprised how much we’re running with that since it’s just speculation. We know he’s having a kid, but to my knowledge no one has said that’s actually the reason.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 1, 2021 12:34:52 GMT -5
I totally get it if it’s because of the due date. I’m just surprised how much we’re running with that since it’s just speculation. We know he’s having a kid, but to my knowledge no one has said that’s actually the reason. Yeah it's odd. There has been no reports on it at all. Like Meltzer just said the match isn't happening because this how they are doing the story now.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Aug 1, 2021 13:22:22 GMT -5
If it's because of the due date of his kid... why even go there? Why tease?
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 1, 2021 13:26:25 GMT -5
Hangman posted an ultrasound pic on his Instagram when he made the announcement. I'm no expert, but it looked like your typical three-month ultrasound. If it was, (and that makes sense, as that's typically the all-clear time to announce a pregnancy) then the baby isn't due until the end of the year.
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Post by flowercity on Aug 1, 2021 15:03:29 GMT -5
All this baby stuff is pure conjecture because people don’t want to face the music. It was planned for Hangman but then Punk and Danielson signed and it threw a wrench into everything. So now they’re stuck.
I still hope Tony isn’t planning on giving the match to Christian. That is an absolute buzzkill of a title match. Has to be Punk at this point, so we’ll see.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 1, 2021 15:34:51 GMT -5
All this baby stuff is pure conjecture because people don’t want to face the music. It was planned for Hangman but then Punk and Danielson signed and it threw a wrench into everything. So now they’re stuck. I still hope Tony isn’t planning on giving the match to Christian. That is an absolute buzzkill of a title match. Has to be Punk at this point, so we’ll see. That could seriously be dreadful, because in that scenario it won't just be Hangman getting sacrificed at the Altar of Punk, it'd also be Darby (who, yeah, is going to lose, but if Punk is to be rocketed up into title contention immediately, then he's going to have to beat Darby in decisive "never-any-doubt" fashion...).
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Aug 1, 2021 15:42:42 GMT -5
I think the result was even more of a downer for me on the back of those entrances, you have the Dark Order with Adam Page all finally as a united force, with that great pre-tape then the Elite joking around with basketballs (their's fell a bit flat with me in the UK).
It just really felt like this was the time to pull the trigger not just on Adam Page but also Dark Order as tag title challengers and I'm not sure it will have that same fire next time.
Omega and Co. could have fallen back on your typical silly heel excuses e.g. not wearing proper gear (full gear?!), didn't take Dark Order seriously etc.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong and Page still gets his crowning moment at All Out with the reaction I was hoping for.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 1, 2021 15:50:34 GMT -5
I think the result was even more of a downer for me on the back of those entrances, you have the Dark Order with Adam Page all finally as a united force, with that great pre-tape then the Elite joking around with basketballs (their's fell a bit flat with me in the UK). It just really felt like this was the time to pull the trigger not just on Adam Page but also Dark Order as tag title challengers and I'm not sure it will have that same fire next time. Omega and Co. could have fallen back on your typical silly heel excuses e.g. not wearing proper gear ( full gear?!), didn't take Dark Order seriously etc. Fingers crossed I'm wrong and Page still gets his crowning moment at All Out with the reaction I was hoping for. I always thought this meant wrestling in PAC-style tiny speedo-trunks and boots and nothing else.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Aug 1, 2021 15:53:08 GMT -5
I think the result was even more of a downer for me on the back of those entrances, you have the Dark Order with Adam Page all finally as a united force, with that great pre-tape then the Elite joking around with basketballs (their's fell a bit flat with me in the UK). It just really felt like this was the time to pull the trigger not just on Adam Page but also Dark Order as tag title challengers and I'm not sure it will have that same fire next time. Omega and Co. could have fallen back on your typical silly heel excuses e.g. not wearing proper gear ( full gear?!), didn't take Dark Order seriously etc. Fingers crossed I'm wrong and Page still gets his crowning moment at All Out with the reaction I was hoping for. I always thought this meant wrestling in PAC-style tiny speedo-trunks and boots and nothing else. I honestly haven't a clue though in that sense or the literal sense it works so I'll go with it!
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Post by flowercity on Aug 1, 2021 16:45:10 GMT -5
All this baby stuff is pure conjecture because people don’t want to face the music. It was planned for Hangman but then Punk and Danielson signed and it threw a wrench into everything. So now they’re stuck. I still hope Tony isn’t planning on giving the match to Christian. That is an absolute buzzkill of a title match. Has to be Punk at this point, so we’ll see. That could seriously be dreadful, because in that scenario it won't just be Hangman getting sacrificed at the Altar of Punk, it'd also be Darby (who, yeah, is going to lose, but if Punk is to be rocketed up into title contention immediately, then he's going to have to beat Darby in decisive "never-any-doubt" fashion...). Punk having a competitive back and forth match with the established #3 ranked contender is absolute justification for a title match. That’s how real fighting works. Christian nor Jungle Boy (the top 2) do not have near the win that Punk would.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 1, 2021 18:21:50 GMT -5
The dates probably won't match up for Hangman's partner to be due at All Out, so I doubt that's anything. However, if they do go the logical path and Page wins at All Out, how long does his reign last? Would he lose the belt at Full Gear (which likely would coincide with his child being born or at least his partner's last trimester)? AEW's shown a particular fondness for making their World Championship reigns long, but life circumstances would demand either a short first reign for their long-term top babyface project or an absentee World Champion for who knows how long. If anything, I think this would make him winning at Full Gear even less likely than All Out. At least if it's All Out, he'd have at least a few months' reign.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Aug 1, 2021 19:48:59 GMT -5
All this baby stuff is pure conjecture because people don’t want to face the music. It was planned for Hangman but then Punk and Danielson signed and it threw a wrench into everything. So now they’re stuck. I still hope Tony isn’t planning on giving the match to Christian. That is an absolute buzzkill of a title match. Has to be Punk at this point, so we’ll see. I really am stunned if this is accurate. With WWE, I’d think nothing of it but with Tony/AEW I’m actually surprised. It just seemed like “All Out” was a perfect opportunity for the company as a whole to blow a proverbial huge load (sorry) I.e Punk debut/match, Hangman winning the title, MJF/Jericho etc..it just seemed like the perfect “conclusion” to a bunch of things and a wonderful “peak” in order to start anew and from scratch. Then again..punk has said story/material would be paramount in his return. And maybe that involves shifting stuff around with the title shot. And I don’t know how to feel about that.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 1, 2021 20:16:57 GMT -5
Hangman's latest sighting since the 5v5 match from one of his Instagram stories:
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Post by markymark on Aug 1, 2021 20:21:27 GMT -5
If it's because of the due date of his kid... why even go there? Why tease? AEW kinda did the same thing when they did a Brandi vs Jade feud when they knew Brandi was already pregnant..
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Post by Chiral on Aug 1, 2021 20:27:03 GMT -5
All this baby stuff is pure conjecture because people don’t want to face the music. It was planned for Hangman but then Punk and Danielson signed and it threw a wrench into everything. So now they’re stuck. I still hope Tony isn’t planning on giving the match to Christian. That is an absolute buzzkill of a title match. Has to be Punk at this point, so we’ll see. I really am stunned if this is accurate. With WWE, I’d think nothing of it but with Tony/AEW I’m actually surprised. It just seemed like “All Out” was a perfect opportunity for the company as a whole to blow a proverbial huge load (sorry) I.e Punk debut/match, Hangman winning the title, MJF/Jericho etc..it just seemed like the perfect “conclusion” to a bunch of things and a wonderful “peak” in order to start anew and from scratch. Then again..punk has said story/material would be paramount in his return. And maybe that involves shifting stuff around with the title shot. And I don’t know how to feel about that. Yeah like barring things out of their hands delaying it...this wouldn't make sense in a way AEW hasn't so far for their storytelling. Plotting wise they've been pretty A to B to C straightforward, so going from A to B to P would just feel so off. It would feel like narratively derailing for no reason other than to drag out a storyline (that they already teased the day before All Out to sell tickets to it which would be a bait and switch in a way) or around a big signing which...eh....
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Aug 1, 2021 20:29:59 GMT -5
I really am stunned if this is accurate. With WWE, I’d think nothing of it but with Tony/AEW I’m actually surprised. It just seemed like “All Out” was a perfect opportunity for the company as a whole to blow a proverbial huge load (sorry) I.e Punk debut/match, Hangman winning the title, MJF/Jericho etc..it just seemed like the perfect “conclusion” to a bunch of things and a wonderful “peak” in order to start anew and from scratch. Then again..punk has said story/material would be paramount in his return. And maybe that involves shifting stuff around with the title shot. And I don’t know how to feel about that. Yeah like barring things out of their hands delaying it...this wouldn't make sense in a way AEW hasn't so far for their storytelling. Plotting wise they've been pretty A to B to C straightforward, so going from A to B to P would just feel so off. It would feel like narratively derailing for no reason other than to drag out a storyline (that they already teased the day before All Out to sell tickets to it which would be a bait and switch in a way) or around a big signing which...eh.... MmHmm. It’s ironic: one of my biggest internal criticisms of Tony’s booking has been he rarely seems to throw a curve ball. It’s always logical, long term booking. But I’ve also come to appreciate it and recognize the benefits of it. And now it may be happening and I’m like WAT.
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Post by Chiral on Aug 1, 2021 20:50:51 GMT -5
Yeah like barring things out of their hands delaying it...this wouldn't make sense in a way AEW hasn't so far for their storytelling. Plotting wise they've been pretty A to B to C straightforward, so going from A to B to P would just feel so off. It would feel like narratively derailing for no reason other than to drag out a storyline (that they already teased the day before All Out to sell tickets to it which would be a bait and switch in a way) or around a big signing which...eh.... MmHmm. It’s ironic: one of my biggest internal criticisms of Tony’s booking has been he rarely seems to throw a curve ball. It’s always logical, long term booking. But I’ve also come to appreciate it and recognize the benefits of it. And now it may be happening and I’m like WAT. RIGHT like I'd love them to incorporate more twists, especially some shock title wins now and then, but this is making me realize too the comfort food of a simple story playing out the way they tell them regularly lol. The only things that'd make sense to me is they found out Delta's gonna pick up and All Out's gonna be moved to Daily's or something (please no) or Hangman's injured/baby stuff/whatever (then why tease it, why still have him in the All Out ads, etc.)
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 1, 2021 20:52:35 GMT -5
If it's because of the due date of his kid... why even go there? Why tease? It still plays into the story - of failing and getting back up. I'd rather they do this and it culminates at Full Gear than Hangman spins his wheels with the Factory for the summer or something to that effect.
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Post by mattyy on Aug 1, 2021 21:13:33 GMT -5
MmHmm. It’s ironic: one of my biggest internal criticisms of Tony’s booking has been he rarely seems to throw a curve ball. It’s always logical, long term booking. But I’ve also come to appreciate it and recognize the benefits of it. And now it may be happening and I’m like WAT. RIGHT like I'd love them to incorporate more twists, especially some shock title wins now and then, but this is making me realize too the comfort food of a simple story playing out the way they tell them regularly lol. The only things that'd make sense to me is they found out Delta's gonna pick up and All Out's gonna be moved to Daily's or something (please no) or Hangman's injured/baby stuff/whatever (then why tease it, why still have him in the All Out ads, etc.) And if they planned on moving All Out to Daily's, you wouldn't be getting the Punk teases, and they wouldn't have booked the United Center THIS WEEK for a show in two weeks. You'd play a little closer to the vest and a lot safer.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 1, 2021 21:54:37 GMT -5
All this baby stuff is pure conjecture because people don’t want to face the music. It was planned for Hangman but then Punk and Danielson signed and it threw a wrench into everything. So now they’re stuck. I still hope Tony isn’t planning on giving the match to Christian. That is an absolute buzzkill of a title match. Has to be Punk at this point, so we’ll see. If Punk's plan is to debut at Rampage on August 20th and just confront Darby? Then the All Out match is Punk/Darby. I don't think Punk is gonna go for the world title at this particular juncture. And Bryan has been rumored to debut at Arthur Ashe. Christian was only speculated by Meltzer for a potential TV Title match and not the PPV. Essentially Christian isn't even in the picture due to being sidetracked with the HFO/Jurassic Express angle. The only way we're gonna know is watching this Wednesday and seeing for ourselves. Untill then we're spinning in circles and driving ourselves crazy
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