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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 7, 2021 21:41:39 GMT -5
Honestly, while I don't hate Andromeda, it's plainly obvious that BioWare really struggled with the Frostbite engine, so moving back to Unreal seems like a positive step.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 7, 2021 23:37:06 GMT -5
Andromeda succeeded in killing my interest. It was garbage. I actually enjoyed the first hour or, there was a sense of mystery and discoveting a new system for the first time.... then that just disappeared. And I recall thr game having the most boring set of side quests.
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Post by Rave on Sept 7, 2021 23:38:53 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll see a remastered version of Andromeda without the limitations of the Frostbite engine in the future. There's a lot of potential in that setting, but EA's meddling really hampered it.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Sept 8, 2021 0:04:55 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll see a remastered version of Andromeda without the limitations of the Frostbite engine in the future. There's a lot of potential in that setting, but EA's meddling really hampered it. Are they making DA4 with FrostBite?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 8, 2021 0:46:48 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll see a remastered version of Andromeda without the limitations of the Frostbite engine in the future. There's a lot of potential in that setting, but EA's meddling really hampered it. Unlikely. There had been initial talk of making Legendary Edition with Unreal Engine 4, and that was ultimately ruled out due to the massive amount of work required porting the trilogy from one iteration of UE to another, to the point where they estimated it would require remaking about 40% of the trilogy. To port Andromeda from Frostbite to UE4 would mean remaking the entire game from scratch, and EA sure aren't going to pay more money towards a game they got burned by. Are they making DA4 with FrostBite? They are, yes. DA4 is being made using the Frostbite codebase BioWare created for Andromeda and refined prior to making Anthem.
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Post by Chiral on Sept 8, 2021 1:02:23 GMT -5
I can wait; it's not surprising that all they likely have now is the concept art, that concept trailer, and probably a general story pitch or outline right now.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Sept 8, 2021 4:13:40 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll see a remastered version of Andromeda without the limitations of the Frostbite engine in the future. There's a lot of potential in that setting, but EA's meddling really hampered it. Doubtful. I feel like EA want to chalk it up as a failed experiment, hence why they put Liara front and centre of the teaser trailer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 7:56:25 GMT -5
If that means more time for the writing and less crunch for the developers, I'm thrilled
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 7, 2021 17:26:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2021 17:43:52 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 7, 2021 17:53:01 GMT -5
Evidently so, and what looks like a Geth Prime body laying near the "eye" of the crater. Leaning towards canonising the destroy ME3 ending?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2021 17:57:32 GMT -5
I think we can guarantee the Destory ending from the initial teaser. Hell it's the only ending that allows for a sequel of any sort. Maybe some kind of quest to find and restore the Geth?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 7, 2021 20:47:10 GMT -5
yeah that's a big old Geth face.
And yeah, the Synthesis doesn't particularly lead itself to sequels.
You might be able to do something with control... but having ancient robot gods helping you would probably quickly completely change how everything works.
Destroy some stuff has to change but likely not as universe changing as the others ( especially since the updated endings didn't have literally EVERYTHING reapers helped build get destroyed too... which would have basically sent people back to pre-spaceflight civilizations)
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 7, 2021 21:49:12 GMT -5
yeah that's a big old Geth face. And yeah, the Synthesis doesn't particularly lead itself to sequels. You might be able to do something with control... but having ancient robot gods helping you would probably quickly completely change how everything works. Destroy some stuff has to change but likely not as universe changing as the others ( especially since the updated endings didn't have literally EVERYTHING reapers helped build get destroyed too... which would have basically sent people back to pre-spaceflight civilizations) I suppose it really depends on whether this game ties into Andromeda, as has been hinted at by a couple of the developers, or not. A long-standing rumour that the mysterious unknown benefactor of the Andromeda Initiative was actually the geth who, upon discovering the imminent return of the reapers set up a project that would help preserve organic life. Remember that the geth simply wanted to build a Dyson Sphere and drift off into uncharted space rather than remain in conflict with the organic races who feared them, so the idea that their parting gift might be to save each species from extinction on an intergalactic scale isn't so terribly far fetched. What if they also had their own ark, and ME5 involves finding them somewhere between the Milky Way and Andomeda?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 7, 2021 21:54:31 GMT -5
yeah that's a big old Geth face. And yeah, the Synthesis doesn't particularly lead itself to sequels. You might be able to do something with control... but having ancient robot gods helping you would probably quickly completely change how everything works. Destroy some stuff has to change but likely not as universe changing as the others ( especially since the updated endings didn't have literally EVERYTHING reapers helped build get destroyed too... which would have basically sent people back to pre-spaceflight civilizations) I suppose it really depends on whether this game ties into Andromeda, as has been hinted at by a couple of the developers, or not. A long-standing rumour that the mysterious unknown benefactor of the Andromeda Initiative was actually the geth who, upon discovering the imminent return of the reapers set up a project that would help preserve organic life. Remember that the geth simply wanted to build a Dyson Sphere and drift off into uncharted space rather than remain in conflict with the organic races who feared them, so the idea that their parting gift might be to save each species from extinction on an intergalactic scale isn't so terribly far fetched. What if they also had their own ark, and ME5 involves finding them somewhere between the Milky Way and Andomeda? I guess it could be possible. But with how Andromeda was received I'm not sure that they're going to want to reference that... also I mean Andromeda wouldn't have happened yet... due to how long the Arcs were supposed to take to get there... Unless they do a thing where the new Warp drives are even better than the Arcs... but then there's the question of why the Alliance didn't beat the Arcs to Andromeda... I think even referencing Andromeda raises more narrative questions than it could solve.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 7, 2021 22:24:46 GMT -5
I guess it could be possible. But with how Andromeda was received I'm not sure that they're going to want to reference that... also I mean Andromeda wouldn't have happened yet... due to how long the Arcs were supposed to take to get there... Unless they do a thing where the new Warp drives are even better than the Arcs... but then there's the question of why the Alliance didn't beat the Arcs to Andromeda... I think even referencing Andromeda raises more narrative questions than it could solve. With Liara looking visibly aged in the teaser I'm still leaning towards this taking place far enough into the future to make the crossover possible. Mac Walters, the game's director, was very coy when asked about it and basically said fans of both the OT and Andromeda should be very happy. There's also this: Also coy, since one could interpret the trailer as "we moving the story back to the Milky Way", but they're definitely not ignoring Andromeda.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 7, 2021 22:36:26 GMT -5
I mean it's possible she would be 706 in Andromeda times... but on the looking older the Asari Matriarchs don't really seem to age that much either.
I mean Samara is 600 years old in ME 2 and doesn't look particularly older than the other Asaris around.
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Post by darbus alan on Nov 7, 2021 23:32:48 GMT -5
yeah that's a big old Geth face. And yeah, the Synthesis doesn't particularly lead itself to sequels. You might be able to do something with control... but having ancient robot gods helping you would probably quickly completely change how everything works. Destroy some stuff has to change but likely not as universe changing as the others ( especially since the updated endings didn't have literally EVERYTHING reapers helped build get destroyed too... which would have basically sent people back to pre-spaceflight civilizations) I suppose it really depends on whether this game ties into Andromeda, as has been hinted at by a couple of the developers, or not. A long-standing rumour that the mysterious unknown benefactor of the Andromeda Initiative was actually the geth who, upon discovering the imminent return of the reapers set up a project that would help preserve organic life. Remember that the geth simply wanted to build a Dyson Sphere and drift off into uncharted space rather than remain in conflict with the organic races who feared them, so the idea that their parting gift might be to save each species from extinction on an intergalactic scale isn't so terribly far fetched. What if they also had their own ark, and ME5 involves finding them somewhere between the Milky Way and Andomeda? The telescope technology they used to scout out potential golden worlds in Andromeda without it being instantly millions of years obsolete was also based on geth tech. So the possibility of the Benefactor having some connection with the geth definitely makes some sense.
One of the people near the ship also looks like they're wearing an Initiative-style helmet.
I also think it's weird that it's being called Mass Effect 5 when IMO Andromeda felt way more like a spinoff than a true Mass Effect 4. I'd rather see Andromeda spin off to its own series while the numbered games are based in the Milky Way.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 7, 2021 23:43:04 GMT -5
I also think it's weird that it's being called Mass Effect 5 when IMO Andromeda felt way more like a spinoff than a true Mass Effect 4. I'd rather see Andromeda spin off to its own series while the numbered games are based in the Milky Way. I've seen it referred to as ME4 and ME5 in the fandom and game press, while BioWare is sticking with "The Next Mass Effect". For the purposes of the thread I picked 5 because it's the fifth game (ignoring the mobile games, obviously).
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Post by Duke Cameron on Nov 8, 2021 0:51:14 GMT -5
Andromeda is a Mass Effect game and has connection to the original trilogy. It’s Mass Effect 4.
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