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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 24, 2021 13:51:57 GMT -5
Cage has one of the most shocking and iconic moments in the history of AEW when he powerbombed Sting beyond that he's just been sort of there and injury prone That's been the story of Cage since he won the Impact title. Gain momentum then get hurt. Heck his debut in AEW was delayed because of an injury.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 24, 2021 14:00:29 GMT -5
Saying Billy Gunn's had more TV time in the last six months than Cage has had his entire AEW run is a flat out lie.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 24, 2021 14:42:56 GMT -5
Saying Billy Gunn's had more TV time in the last six months than Cage has had his entire AEW run is a flat out lie. Yeah, Cage has 16 TV matches for AEW since his debut. Billy has 2 TV matches in the last 6 months.
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Post by dpg on Nov 24, 2021 15:42:05 GMT -5
Cage has one of the most shocking and iconic moments in the history of AEW when he powerbombed Sting beyond that he's just been sort of there and injury prone That's been the story of Cage since he won the Impact title. Gain momentum then get hurt. Heck his debut in AEW was delayed because of an injury. His run was stop start because of injuries, he'd just gain momentum then be out for a few weeks.
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Nov 24, 2021 16:05:48 GMT -5
I know its an unpopular opinoin on this thread to disagree with anything AEW does, but i 100% agree with her. Dude is a unicorn...in pro wrestling you need people to stand out, someone you can look at it and say " i dont know him, but i can tell theres something special about him" pro wrestling today doesnt have that. Most wrestlers today are 6 foot 215lb dudes who look like the type you'd see at a college frat party and then maybe in the gym. Cage is a unicorn- dude has it all you want in a wrestler. The fact they cant find SOMETHING for him to do, yet a 60 year old Billy Gunn has had more matches and tv time in 6 months than Cage has his whole time in AEW--says alot Also, if your gonna joke about steroids/needles etc...........i would bet 60% of AEW'S contracted stars who are on tv on a regular basis are on something. Look at some of the early AEW matches and some of the body types, now look at those same dudes 2 years later. no wellness/steroid policy I mean, he's only been off TV since October which isn't that long of a period and he was dealing with some recurring issues around that time anyway. And Billy Gunn definitely has not had more TV time than him in the past six months. Plus a lot of guys in AEW get circled out every so often anyway which is fine. But he's had plenty to do during his run, more than most actually. - Was a surprise entrant and won his first match - Was given one of the best managers in wrestling and then given his old title - Had a world title match where he was protected - Had a well built feud with Darby where he main evented a special edition of Dynamite - Was in Sting's big return match - Was the only guy to pin Hangman in singles competition this year - Had a big singles match at Double or Nothing - Had one of the big featured feuds for when they returned to the road I'm also curious who you believe might be using steroids based on their body transformations over the past two years. lets begin with the obvious 1. Billy Gunn-admitted steroid abuser/ also proven. 2. Cage-do i even have to say why? 3. Vance-dude has the exact same Orton puffy look going during his time with Rated RKO. take a look at his back and his chest/nipples... 4. Miro- yall can hate cause you love Miro- but the dudes had more changes in his body over the last 5 years then anyone I can recall. Dude is bigger than ever and you can tell its not all natural. 5. Luchsaurus-= again another favorite, but look at his body change, the dude is super thick and looks un natural. now the below guys are guys that aren't as obvious- its usually the dudes you wouldn't expect to be on anything, that are... but again judging by how their bodies have changed since joining AEW- IN MY OPINION- they aren't clean 1. MJF, Cody, Sammy, Fish, The Blade, Ricky Starks, Fuego, Griff, Alan Angels
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Nov 24, 2021 16:07:50 GMT -5
i could name more to, but those just popped up. You can include Billy Gunns sons to... the "chubby" one got into great shape super quick. just go back and compare alot of the "smaller" guys you see from 2 years ago, to today.
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Post by eJm on Nov 24, 2021 16:10:45 GMT -5
I like how you're not addressing any of the other points besides the steroid one, the one that honestly doesn't even matter in the wider scope of the discussion about Cage.
Also...not really a place for baseless accusations unless you have proof besides hunches. Doesn't really help in the "not getting ProBoards to shut us down" thing.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Nov 24, 2021 16:17:46 GMT -5
It turns out Fuego just joined the Vlog Crew for the steroids.
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Post by pinja on Nov 24, 2021 16:25:20 GMT -5
I like how you're not addressing any of the other points besides the steroid one, the one that honestly doesn't even matter in the wider scope of the discussion about Cage. Also...not really a place for baseless accusations unless you have proof besides hunches. Doesn't really help in the "not getting ProBoards to shut us down" thing. Is that a new policy? Because Jinder Mahal seemingly gets the accusations all the time - for obvious reasons.
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Post by eJm on Nov 24, 2021 16:28:11 GMT -5
I like how you're not addressing any of the other points besides the steroid one, the one that honestly doesn't even matter in the wider scope of the discussion about Cage. Also...not really a place for baseless accusations unless you have proof besides hunches. Doesn't really help in the "not getting ProBoards to shut us down" thing. Is that a new policy? Because Jinder Mahal seemingly gets the accusations all the time - for obvious reasons. I mean, I remember us addressing it but I could be wrong. And if I am, hey, I can't make it a policy as much as say "Take a think before you do something that can potentially go back to wrestlers" since by all accounts, a lot of different sources read this place. The Cease and Desist towards ProBoards from WWE didn't come out of nowhere is what I'm saying.
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Post by pinja on Nov 24, 2021 16:35:43 GMT -5
Is that a new policy? Because Jinder Mahal seemingly gets the accusations all the time - for obvious reasons. I mean, I remember us addressing it but I could be wrong. And if I am, hey, I can't make it a policy as much as say "Take a think before you do something that can potentially go back to wrestlers" since by all accounts, a lot of different sources read this place. The Cease and Desist towards ProBoards from WWE didn't come out of nowhere is what I'm saying. It's a slippery slope of a topic because, based on where you are, where you live and where you work, you either act in illegality or you don't. I get the board doesn't want to die on mole hills, but sometimes it's hard to notice you're standing on one. Never knew there was a Cease and Desist by the WWE and only was aware of the rules regarding politics, religion, Cornette and relatively newly accusations against potential sexual offenders.
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Post by eJm on Nov 24, 2021 16:37:42 GMT -5
I mean, I remember us addressing it but I could be wrong. And if I am, hey, I can't make it a policy as much as say "Take a think before you do something that can potentially go back to wrestlers" since by all accounts, a lot of different sources read this place. The Cease and Desist towards ProBoards from WWE didn't come out of nowhere is what I'm saying. It's a slippery slope of a topic because, based on where you are, where you live and where you work, you either act in illegality or you don't. I get the board doesn't want to die on mole hills, but sometimes it's hard to notice you're standing on one. Never knew there was a Cease and Desist by the WWE and only was aware of the rules regarding politics, religion, Cornette and relatively newly accusations against potential sexual offenders. Basically, the rule about WWE videos only coming from official sources? There's a reason that was in place.
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Post by pinja on Nov 24, 2021 16:40:22 GMT -5
It's a slippery slope of a topic because, based on where you are, where you live and where you work, you either act in illegality or you don't. I get the board doesn't want to die on mole hills, but sometimes it's hard to notice you're standing on one. Never knew there was a Cease and Desist by the WWE and only was aware of the rules regarding politics, religion, Cornette and relatively newly accusations against potential sexual offenders. Basically, the rule about WWE videos only coming from official sources? There's a reason that was in place. Ah, got it.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 24, 2021 17:34:17 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't see many on AEW being on steroids. It's not so much "I'm an AEW homer" thing so much as the fact that this generation of wrestler is a lot smarter than previous ones and there always seem to be new ways to get fit. Honestly, it's a lot easier for a lot of these guys to maintain muscle mass with the reduced schedule and travel of yesteryear. I'm sure there are a few in the locker room that do it, but I'd put it at a low number.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 24, 2021 18:22:36 GMT -5
Outside of McMahon, a lot of modern American wrestling promoters also aren't as obsessed with that super-cut, Modern Adonis-esque physique these days. Not that there aren't guys on the juice outside WWE, but there isn't nearly as much peer or employer pressure to do it.
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Post by CeilingFan on Nov 24, 2021 18:25:33 GMT -5
Let's be honest here. If he left next week, would anyone miss Cage?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 24, 2021 18:47:46 GMT -5
You know your arguments are the only thing harder than your majestic wang when you ignore most everything in the response to you to just make wild, speculative accusations of people in ways that don't even help support your claims.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2021 18:57:45 GMT -5
I imagine right now, Khan is possibly waiting for Cage's contract to run out or for Brian to just quit. I do think Brian has had some highlights and decent feuds, but he has some problems that just kind of make him someone that I think has peaked. Outside of maybe teaming him with a tag team to do a quick Team Taz feud again, I can't really think of much I'd use him for, and even that wouldn't exactly be the most inspired choice.
I know Khan has said that he'd much prefer to simply not re-sign certain wrestlers, rather than firing them, barring something when Jimmy Havoc presumably didn't get treatment to AEW's satisfaction, and maybe we're seeing that in action right now.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2021 19:03:21 GMT -5
You know your arguments are the only thing harder than your majestic wang when you ignore most everything in the response to you to just make wild, speculative accusations of people in ways that don't even help support your claims. Majestic Wang was gonna be the second choice for Jimmy Wang Yangs WWE Gimmick.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Nov 24, 2021 19:07:59 GMT -5
You know your arguments are the only thing harder than your majestic wang when you ignore most everything in the response to you to just make wild, speculative accusations of people in ways that don't even help support your claims. Majestic Wang was gonna be the second choice for Jimmy Wang Yangs WWE Gimmick. There has to be an instance of Vince saying "majestic wang" somewhere.
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