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Post by pippen94 on Nov 25, 2021 0:54:22 GMT -5
Here. You said it here. And on top of that gross comment, you've also attacked users here and somehow gotten away with it. It's really lame and you should stop. I'm not trying to dogpile here or derail the thread at hand... but how do you NOT see the issue with saying Cage has to go through his wife and that it "Says everything" and when you're challenged on it... it's everyone else's fault for either "Reading too into it" or "putting words in my mouth"? It's so tiring... doesn't matter the subject it just happens every time... YOU misinterpreted my comments which contained nothing inherently sexist. Sorry, but being triggered by the comment I made is completely on you. I explained before how i feel great after my morning surf & then have a sense of negative dread picking up my phone after - this is why
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 25, 2021 0:59:50 GMT -5
I'm not trying to dogpile here or derail the thread at hand... but how do you NOT see the issue with saying Cage has to go through his wife and that it "Says everything" and when you're challenged on it... it's everyone else's fault for either "Reading too into it" or "putting words in my mouth"? It's so tiring... doesn't matter the subject it just happens every time... YOU misinterpreted my comments which contained nothing inherently sexist. Sorry, but being triggered by the comment I made is completely on you. I explained before how i feel great after my morning surf & then have a sense of negative dread picking up my phone after - this is why Saying I'm "triggered" by your comment says everything I need to know tbh. Next time maybe actually elaborate on what your comment means. By the way you still haven't done that. Just that we're all wrong and put words in your mouth. Maybe you wouldn't have a sense of negative dread if you didn't constantly find yourself in these situations... and maybe if you didn't blame everyone else or technicalities for these situations they wouldn't be happening at all. But it's been months as I said. You may not be willing to change but people here aren't gonna let this stuff keep sliding.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Nov 25, 2021 1:02:13 GMT -5
I'm not trying to dogpile here or derail the thread at hand... but how do you NOT see the issue with saying Cage has to go through his wife and that it "Says everything" and when you're challenged on it... it's everyone else's fault for either "Reading too into it" or "putting words in my mouth"? It's so tiring... doesn't matter the subject it just happens every time... Sorry, but being triggered by the comment I made is completely on you. You just self-snitched. This community doesn't need this.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 25, 2021 1:09:17 GMT -5
I'm not trying to dogpile here or derail the thread at hand... but how do you NOT see the issue with saying Cage has to go through his wife and that it "Says everything" and when you're challenged on it... it's everyone else's fault for either "Reading too into it" or "putting words in my mouth"? It's so tiring... doesn't matter the subject it just happens every time... YOU misinterpreted my comments which contained nothing inherently sexist. Sorry, but being triggered by the comment I made is completely on you. I explained before how i feel great after my morning surf & then have a sense of negative dread picking up my phone after - this is why Let me help you avoid that dread. Just a couple of button pushes and... Done.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 25, 2021 1:10:49 GMT -5
YOU misinterpreted my comments which contained nothing inherently sexist. Sorry, but being triggered by the comment I made is completely on you. I explained before how i feel great after my morning surf & then have a sense of negative dread picking up my phone after - this is why Let me help you avoid that dread. Just a couple of button pushes and... Done. On behalf of myself and several other board users? Thank you dude. Thank you so much.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 25, 2021 1:11:13 GMT -5
I wish Joss Whedon wasn't a sex creep so I could post that 'The devil is defeated' image
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 25, 2021 1:15:32 GMT -5
I wish Joss Whedon wasn't a sex creep so I could post that 'The devil is defeated' image Here this'll work.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 25, 2021 1:40:36 GMT -5
To get this all back on topic in a slightly less toxic manner, I still think there's plenty Cage could contribute to AEW if both sides are interested in working together. Folks weren't complaining about his matches until Melissa started complaining about his booking; he looks like a beast when he gets to just go out there are wreck guys. They've found successful niches for performers who bring a lot less to the table, like Luchasaurus.
Pair Cage with the other prominent underutilized big man on the roster, Lance Archer. Let them murk each other and/or team up to murk little guys.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 25, 2021 1:54:18 GMT -5
To get this all back on topic in a slightly less toxic manner, I still think there's plenty Cage could contribute to AEW if both sides are interested in working together. Folks weren't complaining about his matches until Melissa started complaining about his booking; he looks like a beast when he gets to just go out there are wreck guys. They've found successful niches for performers who bring a lot less to the table, like Luchasaurus. Pair Cage with the other prominent underutilized big man on the roster, Lance Archer. Let them murk each other and/or team up to murk little guys. I actually agree with you (Though I think Luchasaurus brings plenty in the role he's in). I like Cage in ring and feel like if he was given the right thing to work with? He'd be fine. Hell it's why AEW was giving him spotlight moments in the first place. Also Lance got hurt so it'd all be dependent on when he's cleared. He got that neck injury in the eliminator tourney but seems to be ok thankfully. Someone suggested a big and little man team with Marko and tbh I'd love that. Especially the visual of Cage curling Marko like he's a bicep weight lol. In any case Cage isn't a lost cause... the issues have been him taking less than flattering bookings outside of AEW and this entire situation coupled with his knee injury derailing the Starks feud. I assume they'll try with him again in the future... hopefully what they do sticks but if not it is what it is.
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Post by pinja on Nov 25, 2021 4:06:25 GMT -5
I think the "money" in Marko lies within a heel X-Pac role. Let him be obnoxious, hiding behind Cage. Let them feud with Jurassic Express, let him get his come-uppance against Luchasaurus.
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Post by eJm on Nov 25, 2021 6:59:12 GMT -5
The thing is, I want them to find a spot for Cage. In the ring, he's a guy you can guarantee at least a really fun match from and again, the Cage/Page matches were dynamic and really fun to watch. So I just want them to find something that all sides can be happy to try.
And again, it's not like this hasn't been a problem anywhere else for him (besides LU) and I can only see Brian Cage in WWE going the Karrian Kross/Keith Lee route of saying they get the guy but they don't.
Like, even something as simple as have him be AEW's 911 and just come out to wreck annoying midcard heels from time to time would be at least fun to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 8:10:08 GMT -5
Brian Cage, for all his muscles, has the personality of a doorknob.
You needed 19 pages to say that?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 25, 2021 9:26:30 GMT -5
The thing is, I want them to find a spot for Cage. In the ring, he's a guy you can guarantee at least a really fun match from and again, the Cage/Page matches were dynamic and really fun to watch. So I just want them to find something that all sides can be happy to try. And again, it's not like this hasn't been a problem anywhere else for him (besides LU) and I can only see Brian Cage in WWE going the Karrian Kross/Keith Lee route of saying they get the guy but they don't. Like, even something as simple as have him be AEW's 911 and just come out to wreck annoying midcard heels from time to time would be at least fun to watch. Thing is Lance Archer with EVERYBODY DIES fits the 911 role much better IMO. Maybe getting away from Team Taz when he's back will help a bit. I actually liked him and Ricky as a team to start but once they started the face turn I felt that Ricky (and even Taz) really outclassed Brian. Honestly I'd consider pairing him with someone like Lethal
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Post by eJm on Nov 25, 2021 9:31:12 GMT -5
Thing is Lance Archer with EVERYBODY DIES fits the 911 role much better IMO. Yeah, that's fair, putting it that way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 9:53:42 GMT -5
I actually really dug the Cage/Taz pairing - they were a bit of an odd couple duo but Taz could cover Cage's poor mic skills and let Cage focus on just doing cool moves and looking like a meat golem. I dunno who wanted them to split but I'm guessing it was Cage, given the comments he's made about wanting to get more promo time.
I think ultimately what sinks Cage, more than his bad mic skills, is his sheer dearth of charisma. The dude, for all his muscles and acrobatics, simply doesn't have the "it" factor the way Lance and Hobbs do. He looks larger than life and is a great wrestler for his style but just kinda fades into the background if he doesn't have an all-time great like Taz speaking for him and hyping him up.
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Post by lucas_lee on Nov 25, 2021 10:54:52 GMT -5
Oh that's cute. This little game where you keep saying something misogynistic and then yanking back at the last second like The Assumption Song without the cleverness is really worn out. "Yeah he needs his wife to speak for him what a... boring wrestler who can't cut a promo." It's tired. Having a personality doesn't even have anything to do with saying in real life that he should be higher on the card, this is a weak excuse. Where the f.. did I say anything misogynistic?! Said Cage has the personality of a coat rack. I know what game you're playing. Just yank the chain back already the schtick isn't funny
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Nov 25, 2021 13:04:18 GMT -5
That Cage is using his wife to filter his opinions through her and not that Santos is saying this stuff of her own free will. Cage has made allusions to agreeing with her but nothing about this has said Cage told Santos to say what he's feeling while he hides behind her. You read too much into comments. I think cage's wife probably is more opinionated & has more to say about his career than cage himself. Maybe she should be his manager?!Oddly enough, I think this idea could actually work, His wife used to be an announcer or something for Impact right? They should bring her in as his manager/mouth piece and just have her constantly giving promos about how her husband is being underutilized and then getting into backstage spats with random lower card guys leading to Cage MURDERING them in the ring. I doubt the crowd will get behind Cage as a face, but having his wife be a Nancy Sullivan like heel could become a heat magnet
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Post by eJm on Nov 25, 2021 13:08:19 GMT -5
Let’s not quote to the poster who can’t respond to the topic.
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Post by Captain Patren Fenderbaum-X on Nov 25, 2021 13:26:03 GMT -5
The thing that IMO kind of hurts Cage in AEW is that lance Archer is doing what Cage SHOULD be doing.
But it gets redundent having two guys doing the samething unless they end up in a tag team which would be the route I think would work best for him.
And if that is not something on the idea table then IMO he doesn't really have a place in AEW.
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Nov 26, 2021 8:42:30 GMT -5
I don't think Brian Cage's talent, or even awful promos, is why he stopped getting AEW bookings. Sometimes people are just bad fits, and I believe TK picks up on that. Sometimes things don't work out.
Whatever moments he could get, I don't see why Wardlow shouldn't get them instead.
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