Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 9, 2021 15:42:26 GMT -5
Cage is a WWE developmental guy, he can do moves, I don't think Cage knows when to do said moves to really tell a story in the ring. He's basically a modern day Natural Born Thriller, big, athletic but lacking that 'it' factor.
I will say, I think getting beaten cleanly by Mox via a submission no less (sure Taz threw in the towel but commentary sold it that if Taz didn't Cage would be crippled) in the very first big match of his first AEW feud did him no favors. That is not a good look for an (at the time) monster heel.
They did the same thing to Archer and Brodie those guys were feed to Cody and/or Mox quickly after coming in. Cage just doesnt have the talent or the aura of those two to really rebound from it.
Perhaps, it did take Archer a long time to regain his relevancy. His early booking did him no favors.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Sept 9, 2021 16:13:12 GMT -5
I mean, Cage is cool but there are so many more interesting dudes than him. He's impressive AF in the ring no doubt, but he's just missing something character wise. I mean, if he found that something I would be all for him taking the title from Miro. Other than that, I just don't see room for him in the world title picture since they seem to do long reigns for that title.
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Post by Hangman PEE-ST: CHAMPION on Sept 9, 2021 16:13:33 GMT -5
The biggest problem with Cage I think isn't anything with the man himself. It's just the timing of when he joined the company, right as things were getting hot again after the lockdown and the fact that you already had Archer and Brodie filling the big man role, plus Eddie Kingston and Miro were right around the corner. He got lost in the shuffle, then when Starks became part of Team Taz, he quickly became the star of the team. It's not that they haven't given him a chance, so much as there just aren't enough chances to go around, especially with how fast the company has grown since his debut. They went from having three or four new big names to getting new faces to feature on a weekly basis. He's not the only one to suffer from this, though, and they've turned other guys around (Lucha Bros are a big example of this), so really, it's just a matter of being patient, because with his look and his style, his time will come.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 9, 2021 16:28:55 GMT -5
Cage seems like a Jindrak type, who'll no doubt become a legend in Mexico should he go there full tome, post AEW. He'll seem huge by comparison to most guys and his iffy storytelling won't really matter. He won't go to the WWE as there's zero chance he can pass wellness, people in the crowds have to triple mask to make sure they don't pack on 10 pounds of muscle from the fumes.
He’s definitely lost in the shuffle right now, but there are SO many people in the company right now who can play a similar role but way more entertainingly. He was pretty much f***ed when Miro’s 90 days were up.
Post by Captain Fenderbaum on Sept 9, 2021 16:38:42 GMT -5
Cage was always going to have a glass ceiling here because while AEW has characters IMO that is not their bread and butter or honestly focus from what I have seen and like I pointed out that is where he has excelled in places that put the emphasis on focus in the direction.
And this is probably just the start of it in AEW because they are super dense at the very top of the company so some talents just as a result are gonna start fallen by the preverbial wayside.
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Archer's been the furthest from misused. I know he lost his TNT and World title matches but he GOT those matches. He is and has been heavily featured on cards. He beat Moxley in the Texas Deathmatch to win the IWGP US Title. Then he defended it successfully vs Hikuleo. He's main evented multiple Dynamite's.
Cage as others have said has also had big moments and wins. He's also main evented multiple Dynamites. He has shortcomings in the promo and charisma department and would do better with a mouthpiece. I just wouldn't call him "misused". Hell his last two match losses are due to him getting clocked in the face with a belt.
Post by rnrk supports BLM on Sept 9, 2021 16:45:59 GMT -5
It's sort of the reverse of Karrion Kross's problem on the other channel: Kross is a guy with a lot of personality and interest in cultivating a unique, dark character, which he's incapable of conveying in the ring because he wrestles like a generic FCW trainee. Cage is amazing in the ring when he gets to do what he does best-- he comes off on Brock's level as a devastating destroyer, but with lucha-esque acrobatics on top of it-- but withers away when he's not in a position where he can be doing cool moves.
Putting Cage with Team Taz was a mistake, because he wasn't capable of projecting anything interesting or intimidating about himself while being one of the four guys standing behind Taz during his promos. Ricky Starks was in the same spot and was absolutely able to project a douchebag energy that made you want to see him get in the ring and get his ass kicked, hence why he's only gotten more over from this grouping while Cage has faded into the background.
And this isn't a "Haw haw, Cage should shut up and be grateful for what he's got because he sucks" post, because Melissa's right: They ARE misusing Cage. He's in a role that highlights rather than covers his weaknesses. They should keep him offscreen as much as possible except when he shows up like a Brock Lesnar-type natural disaster who wrecks everything in his wake.