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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 14, 2023 8:44:39 GMT -5
Random thought Mysterio isn't on Kraven's list but the 80 year old vulture (who was also dying of cancer in the first game) was... That's pretty harsh Kraven.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 14, 2023 8:56:01 GMT -5
That and killing her off to further Miles's story is the literal definition of Women in Refrigerators and being Fridged. That would not go over well with the games core audience. Who’s the game’s core audience? Comic fans? The people who grew up on that sort of thing? People who have also gone through Peter and MJ breaking up their marriage for stupid reasons? Women in Refrigerators came about because of comics and it's been a growing annoyance among a lot of comic fans since it's become more mainstream of an issue.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Nov 14, 2023 10:14:01 GMT -5
Who’s the game’s core audience? Comic fans? The people who grew up on that sort of thing? People who have also gone through Peter and MJ breaking up their marriage for stupid reasons? Women in Refrigerators came about because of comics and it's been a growing annoyance among a lot of comic fans since it's become more mainstream of an issue. The first comic I ever read was Amazing Spider-Man #308 (July, 1988) I’ve been a hardcore Spider-Man, Spider-Man marriage and especially Mary Jane as a character to this day since and I’ve never been overly bothered by something like that or paid any attention to it. The only time I ever even noticed that was when Major Force killed Kyle Rayner’s girlfriend, Alex DeWitt and literally put her into the refrigerator.
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Post by chrom on Nov 14, 2023 11:07:54 GMT -5
Trying to get the webline stealth takedown trophy so I can Platinum the game but the only crimes that happen now are Symbiote attacks.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 14, 2023 11:13:12 GMT -5
Comic fans? The people who grew up on that sort of thing? People who have also gone through Peter and MJ breaking up their marriage for stupid reasons? Women in Refrigerators came about because of comics and it's been a growing annoyance among a lot of comic fans since it's become more mainstream of an issue. The first comic I ever read was Amazing Spider-Man #308 (July, 1988) I’ve been a hardcore Spider-Man, Spider-Man marriage and especially Mary Jane as a character to this day since and I’ve never been overly bothered by something like that or paid any attention to it. The only time I ever even noticed that was when Major Force killed Kyle Rayner’s girlfriend, Alex DeWitt and literally put her into the refrigerator. It's all up to the the individual of course, and I don't want this turn into another discourse conversation on One More Day, but I'm just going off of social media, critical reviews, and personal circles where the majority of the views I hear of still blast Marvel for this almost 20 years later. Hell, the fact that Marvel to this day milks it's fanbase by teasing a reversal or some kind of resolution to that story means they know what the fanbase wants (technically). All I'm saying is killing off or doing away with romances in BS ways in comics has a negative effect to those who absorb that media. Killing Hailey off is not a great idea, in fact it's a terrible idea. The backlash of killing another significant other of a Spider-Man, this time a deaf woman of color, would not bring the creators the kind of reception they want out of this series.
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Post by chrom on Nov 14, 2023 14:47:32 GMT -5
Managed to find some Cultists and Hunters so I could get the last trophy and Platinum the game.
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Post by Raskovnik on Nov 14, 2023 16:14:57 GMT -5
My copy should be getting here on Friday. It was already half off for some reason, not that I'm complaining.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 14, 2023 16:54:18 GMT -5
Comic fans? The people who grew up on that sort of thing? People who have also gone through Peter and MJ breaking up their marriage for stupid reasons? Women in Refrigerators came about because of comics and it's been a growing annoyance among a lot of comic fans since it's become more mainstream of an issue. The first comic I ever read was Amazing Spider-Man #308 (July, 1988) I’ve been a hardcore Spider-Man, Spider-Man marriage and especially Mary Jane as a character to this day since and I’ve never been overly bothered by something like that or paid any attention to it. The only time I ever even noticed that was when Major Force killed Kyle Rayner’s girlfriend, Alex DeWitt and literally put her into the refrigerator. That's where Gail Simone coined the term from.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 14, 2023 18:11:17 GMT -5
I think one of the more blatant cases of that was Deadpool 2 where they played the cliche completely straight, when it wasn't really remotely necessary for the story they were telling, then kept bragging about how insanely revolutionary and clever their obvious lazy copout was.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Nov 15, 2023 17:31:17 GMT -5
For the Carnage DLC, we could get those who teamed with him in Maximum Carnage like Shriek, Doppelganger and Carrion. Knowing the luck, he'll turn Screwball into a Symbiote so we gotta deal with her again. Demogoblin or bust
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 15, 2023 19:47:02 GMT -5
I dunno if Carnage would be a DLC thing.... I guess it could be but my assumption is any DLC will be Miles based... and Carnage is a Pete problem.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 15, 2023 20:13:20 GMT -5
If I were to guess the sequel hook that will be used for the DLC is Chameleon.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 15, 2023 20:21:12 GMT -5
If I were to guess the sequel hook that will be used for the DLC is Chameleon. or something setting up Silk.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 15, 2023 20:51:42 GMT -5
Yeah, the Carnage shit I assume is Spiderman 3 shit that brings Pete out of his "break" though I wouldn't rule out the DLC option. They got the assets and you can do a story for Carnage in a couple of hours
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 16, 2023 10:55:33 GMT -5
Yeah, the Carnage shit I assume is Spiderman 3 shit that brings Pete out of his "break" though I wouldn't rule out the DLC option. They got the assets and you can do a story for Carnage in a couple of hours Just recolor the symbiote enemies red and do a new boss fight for Carnage and you’re set for DLC.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 16, 2023 18:05:49 GMT -5
I really want to see the aftermath of that sequel teaser where Norman's just like, "The final chapter of what? How does that answer my question?"
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 16, 2023 18:56:25 GMT -5
I really want to see the aftermath of that sequel teaser where Norman's just like, "The final chapter of what? How does that answer my question?" What the f*** are you talking about Octavius!? Just for that I'm going to break Blood Spider out of jail instead.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 16, 2023 20:27:48 GMT -5
Yeah, the Carnage shit I assume is Spiderman 3 shit that brings Pete out of his "break" though I wouldn't rule out the DLC option. They got the assets and you can do a story for Carnage in a couple of hours Just recolor the symbiote enemies red and do a new boss fight for Carnage and you’re set for DLC. Which is how I expect it to go and would be fine with I can see it being Final DLC in regards to everyone having to team up to stop him. Could feed into a way Norman tries to chase him to get his symbiote so he can help Harry
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Post by discoelysium on Nov 24, 2023 9:02:26 GMT -5
Thoroughly enjoying the game. And the Howard mission completely broke me. Floods of tears.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 24, 2023 21:14:54 GMT -5
Is this game really doable without the first one and the Miles game, or is it going to be completely incoherent?
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