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Post by RKTaker on Sept 13, 2021 11:53:22 GMT -5
Omega and the Bucks are awful. I'm so happy to see CM Punk back and happy as ever, but I'm beyond excited for more snarky pissed off Punk. We got a little bit of it when Tazz interrupted him. I still been liking AEW, but it feels extra hard to critique them without people jumping on you to defend their honor. Or accusing everything of being a "bad-faith" argument, whatever that's supposed to mean. If WWE did a former women's champion like AEW has with Shida, people would be all over them. Where tf has she been? I miss seeing her on Dynamite lol! I "get" Orange Cassidy. But I still think it's a stupid character. Maybe not an unpopular opinion, but besides CM Punk and Bryan Danielson, Team Tazz is probably my favorite thing going on AEW TV. Powerhouse Hobbs is gonna be a huge star imo. this might be proving one of your points but people have been on AEW for not having Shida on Dynamite since losing the belt
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Post by Terry McConkey on Sept 13, 2021 11:53:48 GMT -5
Every opinion I have of AEW is unpopular.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Sept 13, 2021 11:56:36 GMT -5
As someone who’s listened to a lot of What Happened When, the idea that Tony Schivone is some sort of like protective father figure to the girls is laughable. Tony is seemingly an enormous creep and has made way to many sexual comments about almost any women he’s talked about in wrestling on his show. Unpopular opinion but I knew he was too good to be true. WHW is my least favorite of the Conrad empire of podcasts because he legit acted pissed at Conrad on one episode and it was off-putting to me.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Sept 13, 2021 11:56:37 GMT -5
I don't buy Riho's offense. Like, at all.
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Post by RKTaker on Sept 13, 2021 11:57:14 GMT -5
Mark Henry and Big Show add nothing to the company and have no business being in AEW. Gallows and Anderson are the drizzling shit's everywhere they've been and have been riding the Bullet Club hype train since 2015. Nobody cares about them and they're only in The Elite to be 2 extra bodies. They don't actually add anything to the group. Eddie Edwards might be decent on the mic but no casual fan would be leaving the TV on to see this guy who looks like he manages his local KFC. Jake Hager is one of the most pointless signings they ever made. Nobody wants to see this guy. All of Cody's "students" or whatever have no business being on TV until they find themselves an actual gimmick and personality. There's too many wrestlers in the company with no gimmick or personality. I get they want to go for an 80s wrestling kinda feel where everyone was a "normal guy in trunks" but you need more than that in 2021. QT Marshall and The Revival especially are complete channel changers. And the amount of "flippy guys in tights" they have is crazy. These guys need a distinctive look at the very least if they want to break through the ceiling. Overall, I love the company and think it's miles better than WWE right now. But there is a few things they're doing that makes me think "Well, I wish they did this instead..." - It's nowhere close to how I feel when I'm watching WWE but it's still there. i know you mean Eddie Kingston but the idea of the sight of Eddie Edwards being a manager at KFC is hilarious to me for some reason
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Post by markymark on Sept 13, 2021 11:59:26 GMT -5
Mark Henry and Big Show add nothing to the company and have no business being in AEW. Gallows and Anderson are the drizzling shit's everywhere they've been and have been riding the Bullet Club hype train since 2015. Nobody cares about them and they're only in The Elite to be 2 extra bodies. They don't actually add anything to the group. Eddie Edwards might be decent on the mic but no casual fan would be leaving the TV on to see this guy who looks like he manages his local KFC. Jake Hager is one of the most pointless signings they ever made. Nobody wants to see this guy. All of Cody's "students" or whatever have no business being on TV until they find themselves an actual gimmick and personality. There's too many wrestlers in the company with no gimmick or personality. I get they want to go for an 80s wrestling kinda feel where everyone was a "normal guy in trunks" but you need more than that in 2021. QT Marshall and The Revival especially are complete channel changers. And the amount of "flippy guys in tights" they have is crazy. These guys need a distinctive look at the very least if they want to break through the ceiling. Overall, I love the company and think it's miles better than WWE right now. But there is a few things they're doing that makes me think "Well, I wish they did this instead..." - It's nowhere close to how I feel when I'm watching WWE but it's still there. Henry was the main reason Giannis appeared in AEW(due to his connections to the sports world), Henry is also helps recruiting talent(Imo specially the POC as people in the other thread were talking about AEW still needing to improve in the diversity aspect)
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Sept 13, 2021 12:14:28 GMT -5
CM Punk doing his "aw shucks, it's just so great to be back in front of fans who appreciate me, hi April!" schtick is getting old real fast. Dude badly needs to go back to being a heel or find something interesting to say as a face. Seriouslyyyyy. What kind of crystallized all of this for me was Danielson saying “Punk wants to help all these rookies, I want to beat them up”. Punk needs character direction STAT other than “hey, I’m C.M Punk, Welcome to AEW!”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 12:23:34 GMT -5
No one in the IWC was breaking down numbers like "key demos" until AEW showed up, and a huge reason they're doing it is because Meltzers primary sources are in AEW and they're hyping themselves up. The numbers people used to talk about in the wrestling community were raw viewership and ratings. You'd only see demo numbers in company press releases. But in the last two years, we're all about the "key demos."
It's goalpost moving. It's interpreting the data in the way we care about most to act like our "team" is killing it. I'm not an advertiser, I don't care about the demographics of the show.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Sept 13, 2021 12:25:36 GMT -5
Mark Henry and Big Show add nothing to the company and have no business being in AEW. Gallows and Anderson are the drizzling shit's everywhere they've been and have been riding the Bullet Club hype train since 2015. Nobody cares about them and they're only in The Elite to be 2 extra bodies. They don't actually add anything to the group. Eddie Edwards might be decent on the mic but no casual fan would be leaving the TV on to see this guy who looks like he manages his local KFC. Jake Hager is one of the most pointless signings they ever made. Nobody wants to see this guy. All of Cody's "students" or whatever have no business being on TV until they find themselves an actual gimmick and personality. There's too many wrestlers in the company with no gimmick or personality. I get they want to go for an 80s wrestling kinda feel where everyone was a "normal guy in trunks" but you need more than that in 2021. QT Marshall and The Revival especially are complete channel changers. And the amount of "flippy guys in tights" they have is crazy. These guys need a distinctive look at the very least if they want to break through the ceiling. Overall, I love the company and think it's miles better than WWE right now. But there is a few things they're doing that makes me think "Well, I wish they did this instead..." - It's nowhere close to how I feel when I'm watching WWE but it's still there. Henry was the main reason Giannis appeared in AEW(due to his connections to the sports world), Henry is also helps recruiting talent(Imo specially the POC as people in the other thread were talking about AEW still needing to improve in the diversity aspect) That's fine but also see how Mark Henry handled a Q&A recently where he was berating the fans.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Sept 13, 2021 12:26:56 GMT -5
CM Punk doing his "aw shucks, it's just so great to be back in front of fans who appreciate me, hi April!" schtick is getting old real fast. Dude badly needs to go back to being a heel or find something interesting to say as a face. Seriouslyyyyy. What kind of crystallized all of this for me was Danielson saying “Punk wants to help all these rookies, I want to beat them up”. Punk needs character direction STAT other than “hey, I’m C.M Punk, Welcome to AEW!” Well, he did just get there after a 7 year hiatus in pro wrestling. It's gotta be leading somewhere. Maybe not a full blown heel turn (hard to boo him at this point) but a tweener?
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Post by markymark on Sept 13, 2021 12:33:57 GMT -5
Henry was the main reason Giannis appeared in AEW(due to his connections to the sports world), Henry is also helps recruiting talent(Imo specially the POC as people in the other thread were talking about AEW still needing to improve in the diversity aspect) That's fine but also see how Mark Henry handled a Q&A recently where he was berating the fans. Probably he still had that WWE mentality of how to treat fans(Miro was also bashing fans back when he had the gamer gimmick and fans didnt like it), he should be fine long term.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 13, 2021 12:36:13 GMT -5
I don't mind people who worked at other promotions dropping references to them in their promos, it's not 'bush league', it's wrestling tradition and you know that for all the corporate veneer the WWE try to put on, all the ridiculous assertions they're not a wrestling company, they will start to make digs at AEW should they manage to poach talent or should their ratings continue to climb.
I'm slightly afraid AEW are getting topheavy. They have a hell of a lot of main eventers and main eventers in waiting, it's going to be a difficult juggling act.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Sept 13, 2021 12:36:24 GMT -5
That's fine but also see how Mark Henry handled a Q&A recently where he was berating the fans. Probably he still had that WWE mentality of how to treat fans(Miro was also bashing fans back when he had the gamer gimmick and fans didnt like it), he should be fine long term. I'm still not convinced that they need him. Guys like him and Wight are just looking for that one last big payday before they take off the boots for good (Wight at least).
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 13, 2021 12:36:40 GMT -5
probably one that will get some heat but as much as i get people wanting to see more women wrestlers on Dynamite I don’t think every faction needs a female wrestler in it some factions it just doesn’t fit The suggestion of a woman in every stable is one many of us make because it would be at least a fair minimum. If women were represented well across the board then there would be mixed, male and female only stables without any concerns.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 13, 2021 12:37:03 GMT -5
The specific brand of discourse AEW generates internet wide is generally depressing to me and makes me consider just watching it and not engaging online as much with the fanbase. :/ Edit: OK this got a lot of likes so it may not be unpopular so feel free to disregard here lol I think the funny thing is a number of people liking the posts are the ones actually contributing to the depressing discourse lol.
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Post by markymark on Sept 13, 2021 12:39:34 GMT -5
Probably he still had that WWE mentality of how to treat fans(Miro was also bashing fans back when he had the gamer gimmick and fans didnt like it), he should be fine long term. I'm still not convinced that they need him. Guys like him and Wight are just looking for that one last big payday before they take off the boots for good (Wight at least). Wight hiring is a weird one, but Mark is actually a big help backstage, if he was only for the paycheck he wouldve put no effort in his commentary and be as bad as TNA Taz.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 13, 2021 12:40:07 GMT -5
Seriouslyyyyy. What kind of crystallized all of this for me was Danielson saying “Punk wants to help all these rookies, I want to beat them up”. Punk needs character direction STAT other than “hey, I’m C.M Punk, Welcome to AEW!” Well, he did just get there after a 7 year hiatus in pro wrestling. It's gotta be leading somewhere. Maybe not a full blown heel turn (hard to boo him at this point) but a tweener? I don't know if it'll happen due to how bad their falling out was, but I would like to see a Punk/Cabana feud in AEW if they can agree to it. Cabana needs something to put him back in the spotlight again like he was during the Brodie Lee angle.
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Post by RKTaker on Sept 13, 2021 12:40:07 GMT -5
CM Punk doing his "aw shucks, it's just so great to be back in front of fans who appreciate me, hi April!" schtick is getting old real fast. Dude badly needs to go back to being a heel or find something interesting to say as a face. Seriouslyyyyy. What kind of crystallized all of this for me was Danielson saying “Punk wants to help all these rookies, I want to beat them up”. Punk needs character direction STAT other than “hey, I’m C.M Punk, Welcome to AEW!” hopefully that’s what this feud with team taz is, direction
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Post by Cyno on Sept 13, 2021 12:40:13 GMT -5
my unpopular opinions are that unpopular opinion threads are dumb and generally are asking for trouble >_> we’ve, so far, maintained an air of respectability with no one openly disrespecting another persons opinion. Other than your use of ‘dumb’ no one has yet to have a single pejorative thing to say about anyone or their opinions. You’re a mod - aren’t you supposed to help maintain that, instead of actively disrupting it? He's also a poster like anyone else and allowed to have an opinion. We've had an influx of "unpopular opinion" threads in short time and it gets tiring when you've got a bunch of copycat threads that tend to be negative in tone.
If he felt that strongly about it, he would've closed the thread. But he hasn't.
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Post by Chiral on Sept 13, 2021 12:42:55 GMT -5
The specific brand of discourse AEW generates internet wide is generally depressing to me and makes me consider just watching it and not engaging online as much with the fanbase. :/ Edit: OK this got a lot of likes so it may not be unpopular so feel free to disregard here lol I think the funny thing is a number of people liking the posts are the ones actually contributing to the depressing discourse lol. Metallica's *Sad But True* suddenly blasts through my speakers. (And yeah when I say "internet wide" that includes this section)
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