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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 24, 2022 16:11:08 GMT -5
Dude went from begging to be the featured wideback in the playoffs, demanding the ball to win games, to full fledged Terrell Owens diva in the span of a month. Man has one great season under his belt. Good riddance.
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Post by bob on Apr 24, 2022 17:01:08 GMT -5
typical Jets if they do the trade
they've got Denzel Mims, a talented young WR who they refused to play at all for reasons unknown, but they want Deebo
not saying Mims is the same league as Deebo but it's just mind blowing how insane their thought process is
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 25, 2022 8:49:40 GMT -5
Draft speculation is always fun. At least if you lose Deebo, you have that to look forward to. Hopefully they don’t whiff again like DeForest for Javon Kinlaw. Now that trade was fxxxing stupid, from the moment it happened. As a Colts fan I appreciate that it happened.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 25, 2022 10:56:21 GMT -5
GO FULL JETS AND GET YOUR MAN SALEH!
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 25, 2022 12:16:50 GMT -5
GO FULL JETS AND GET YOUR MAN SALEH! That's insane. The 1st is a serious stretch, IMO. It's like their botched attempt to get a trade for Jimmy.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 25, 2022 12:23:50 GMT -5
GO FULL JETS AND GET YOUR MAN SALEH! That's insane. The 1st is a serious stretch, IMO. It's like their botched attempt to get a trade for Jimmy. Jets have 10 on the table apparently. See who blinks first.
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Post by Sicho100 on Apr 25, 2022 13:19:37 GMT -5
That's insane. The 1st is a serious stretch, IMO. It's like their botched attempt to get a trade for Jimmy. Jets have 10 on the table apparently. See who blinks first. Trading #10 for Deebo makes no sense. Tyreek Hill was traded for a late first, a second, two fours, and a sixth rounder (going off of the Jimmy Johnson Draft Chart, assuming I am using the chart correctly, the total value of that haul is smack dab between the value of the 13th and 14th overall picks. So, the value of someone who is no worse than the third best receiver in the league is a mid-first round pick.) And, here's a mindf***: Tyreek Hill is only two years older than Deebo, so it's not like Deebo being younger is a massive benefit over Hill (and any team trading for Deebo would also have to sign him to a massive extention, so the contract isn't a benefit either)
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 25, 2022 15:06:14 GMT -5
That's insane. The 1st is a serious stretch, IMO. It's like their botched attempt to get a trade for Jimmy. Jets have 10 on the table apparently. See who blinks first. Blink, SF. If there really is the 10th pick being offered take it before someone comes to their senses. Assuming that they weren’t lying about the 2 2nds that were offered for Jimmy, that’s clearly what happened there.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Apr 25, 2022 15:27:14 GMT -5
It makes absolutely zero sense for the Jets to go after Deebo which is why I’m almost certain they will.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 25, 2022 15:40:34 GMT -5
Jets have 10 on the table apparently. See who blinks first. Blink, SF. If there really is the 10th pick being offered take it before someone comes to their senses. Assuming that they weren’t lying about the 2 2nds that were offered for Jimmy, that’s clearly what happened there. That was Lynch posturing, there was no chance of that. This is someone reporting outside the scope of SF. So maybe true maybe not, but it’s not Lynch spewing Jim nonsense. For the record; I take 10 and run if it’s there.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 26, 2022 10:44:08 GMT -5
So...with the draft just around the corner how many of you have faith in the drafting capacity of your team's GM?
Me? I just looked at Chris Ballard's draft history. In a league where the average career is literally less than 3 years, Ballard's 5 years of drafting has only one player that he drafted that is no longer in the league against their will, and that was a 7th round pick (Rob Windsor was a 6th round pick who retired because of major injuries). Every other player is still signed to a team. That says something about finding quality players, though retention can sometimes be an issue. Only one of their picks from 2017 is still on the team (though a couple of them aren't with the team because they were traded away). Granted, a large part of that was that many of those players were drafted for their fit in Chuck Pagano's defense and were not good fits after the change in coaching.
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Post by BRV on Apr 26, 2022 11:18:10 GMT -5
So...with the draft just around the corner how many of you have faith in the drafting capacity of your team's GM? Me? I just looked at Chris Ballard's draft history. In a league where the average career is literally less than 3 years, Ballard's 5 years of drafting has only one player that he drafted that is no longer in the league against their will, and that was a 7th round pick (Rob Windsor was a 6th round pick who retired because of major injuries). Every other player is still signed to a team. That says something about finding quality players, though retention can sometimes be an issue. Only one of their picks from 2017 is still on the team (though a couple of them aren't with the team because they were traded away). Granted, a large part of that was that many of those players were drafted for their fit in Chuck Pagano's defense and were not good fits after the change in coaching. I don't have the time or energy to page through Bill Belichick's 21 years of experience helming the draft for the New England Patriots, and the results for the dozens upon dozens of players he's selected, so instead I'll stick with just the first-rounders he's chosen and how they've developed as Patriots or NFL players using the NFL's "hit, miss, meh" ratings. HIT2001: Richard Seymour, DE, Georgia - Seymour is being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame later this year, so I'd call this a hit. 2002: Daniel Graham, TE, Colorado - Graham was productive and reliable if unspectacular during his five seasons in New England, and he parlayed his tenure in Foxboro into a $30 million contract from the Broncos. 2003: Ty Warren, DE, Texas A&M - Another solid selection. Made First-team All-Pro in 2007 and was a consistent contributor in his eight seasons. 2004: Vince Wilfork, NT, Miami - Not too much needs to be said. He'll be a Patriots Hall of Famer and should garner serious consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 2005: Logan Mankins, G, Fresno State - Like Wilfork, he's destined to be a Patriots Hall of Famer and should be considered for Canton. He was arguably the Patriots' best offensive lineman ever after John Hannah. 2008: Jerod Mayo, LB, Tennessee - Injuries derailed a promising career, but when he was healthy, he was one of the best interior linebackers in the NFL. 2010: Devin McCourty, DB, Rutgers - He's been the heartbeat of the Patriots' defense during its second dynasty. A slam-dunk of a pick. 2011: Nate Solder, T, Colorado - He proved to be a reliable protector of Tom Brady's blindside before his career crumbled apart after signing with the Giants. 2012: Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse - He was great in New England, although his skillset didn't seem to mesh with what the Patriots wanted out of him, and he's excelled in Arizona as one of the best pass-rushers in the league. 2012: Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama - After a shaky first two seasons, Hightower has excelled and has become the defensive heartbeat in the same high regard as Devin McCourty. 2021: Mac Jones, QB, Alabama - He's only got one season under his belt, but he's showing all the signs of being a franchise quarterback. MEH2004: Benjamin Watson, TE, Georgia - He never found his groove in New England, and his propensity for drops was maddening, but he turned into a solid pro for 16 seasons. 2007: Brandon Meriweather, DB, Miami - I was never a fan (I thought he was a cheap shot artist whose propensity to go for the big hit led to many missed tackles and big plays by the opposition). But he did make the Pro Bowl twice as a Patriot, so I guess it's a wash. 2018: Isaiah Wynn, T, Georgia - Between injuries and inconsistent play, Wynn has been maddening to watch develop but it's too early to call him a bust. 2018: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia - He never really showed the promise of being a first-round pick, but I can't call his selection a complete bust because of how he dominated the 2018 playoffs. MISS2006: Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota - The first real miss of the Belichick Era. Wildly inconsistent and never found his footing even though he showed glimpses of star potential in his first two seasons. 2014: Dominique Easley, DT, Florida - When he wasn't hurt, he showed flashes of potential. The problem was that he was hurt fairly regularly in his two seasons in New England. 2015: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas - Drafted as the heir apparent to Vince Wilfork, Brown never showed that first-round potential. Not an outright bust but a miss for a first-rounder. 2019: N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State - Quite possibly the worst of Belichick's first-round selections, especially when you consider the glut of talented receivers that were selected after him. That's 11 hits, four meh's, and four misses. It's a long-winded way of saying I trust Bill Belichick when it comes to drafting in the first round.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 26, 2022 12:11:28 GMT -5
So...with the draft just around the corner how many of you have faith in the drafting capacity of your team's GM? Me? I just looked at Chris Ballard's draft history. In a league where the average career is literally less than 3 years, Ballard's 5 years of drafting has only one player that he drafted that is no longer in the league against their will, and that was a 7th round pick (Rob Windsor was a 6th round pick who retired because of major injuries). Every other player is still signed to a team. That says something about finding quality players, though retention can sometimes be an issue. Only one of their picks from 2017 is still on the team (though a couple of them aren't with the team because they were traded away). Granted, a large part of that was that many of those players were drafted for their fit in Chuck Pagano's defense and were not good fits after the change in coaching. I don't have the time or energy to page through Bill Belichick's 21 years of experience helming the draft for the New England Patriots, and the results for the dozens upon dozens of players he's selected, so instead I'll stick with just the first-rounders he's chosen and how they've developed as Patriots or NFL players using the NFL's "hit, miss, meh" ratings. HIT2001: Richard Seymour, DE, Georgia - Seymour is being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame later this year, so I'd call this a hit. 2002: Daniel Graham, TE, Colorado - Graham was productive and reliable if unspectacular during his five seasons in New England, and he parlayed his tenure in Foxboro into a $30 million contract from the Broncos. 2003: Ty Warren, DE, Texas A&M - Another solid selection. Made First-team All-Pro in 2007 and was a consistent contributor in his eight seasons. 2004: Vince Wilfork, NT, Miami - Not too much needs to be said. He'll be a Patriots Hall of Famer and should garner serious consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 2005: Logan Mankins, G, Fresno State - Like Wilfork, he's destined to be a Patriots Hall of Famer and should be considered for Canton. He was arguably the Patriots' best offensive lineman ever after John Hannah. 2008: Jerod Mayo, LB, Tennessee - Injuries derailed a promising career, but when he was healthy, he was one of the best interior linebackers in the NFL. 2010: Devin McCourty, DB, Rutgers - He's been the heartbeat of the Patriots' defense during its second dynasty. A slam-dunk of a pick. 2011: Nate Solder, T, Colorado - He proved to be a reliable protector of Tom Brady's blindside before his career crumbled apart after signing with the Giants. 2012: Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse - He was great in New England, although his skillset didn't seem to mesh with what the Patriots wanted out of him, and he's excelled in Arizona as one of the best pass-rushers in the league. 2012: Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama - After a shaky first two seasons, Hightower has excelled and has become the defensive heartbeat in the same high regard as Devin McCourty. 2021: Mac Jones, QB, Alabama - He's only got one season under his belt, but he's showing all the signs of being a franchise quarterback. MEH2004: Benjamin Watson, TE, Georgia - He never found his groove in New England, and his propensity for drops was maddening, but he turned into a solid pro for 16 seasons. 2007: Brandon Meriweather, DB, Miami - I was never a fan (I thought he was a cheap shot artist whose propensity to go for the big hit led to many missed tackles and big plays by the opposition). But he did make the Pro Bowl twice as a Patriot, so I guess it's a wash. 2018: Isaiah Wynn, T, Georgia - Between injuries and inconsistent play, Wynn has been maddening to watch develop but it's too early to call him a bust. 2018: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia - He never really showed the promise of being a first-round pick, but I can't call his selection a complete bust because of how he dominated the 2018 playoffs. MISS2006: Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota - The first real miss of the Belichick Era. Wildly inconsistent and never found his footing even though he showed glimpses of star potential in his first two seasons. 2014: Dominique Easley, DT, Florida - When he wasn't hurt, he showed flashes of potential. The problem was that he was hurt fairly regularly in his two seasons in New England. 2015: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas - Drafted as the heir apparent to Vince Wilfork, Brown never showed that first-round potential. Not an outright bust but a miss for a first-rounder. 2019: N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State - Quite possibly the worst of Belichick's first-round selections, especially when you consider the glut of talented receivers that were selected after him. That's 11 hits, four meh's, and four misses. It's a long-winded way of saying I trust Bill Belichick when it comes to drafting in the first round. Why would you want DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, or Terry McLaurin when you can have N'Keal Harry? You guys won that draft lottery!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 26, 2022 12:23:54 GMT -5
All I'm saying is the Eagles have A LOT of draft capital especially in this draft, and I don't think many fans would be upset if they gave some of it away for Deebo, who would be a ready made WR1 next to Devonta Smith who is already blossoming in his own right. Probably just gonna go and try one of the top receivers in the draft, but I mean Howie Roseman's WR draft track record is atrocious so... again, if they gave up picks for Deebo maybe it wouldn't be the worst decision
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Post by cornettesracket on Apr 26, 2022 14:35:24 GMT -5
All I'm saying is the Eagles have A LOT of draft capital especially in this draft, and I don't think many fans would be upset if they gave some of it away for Deebo, who would be a ready made WR1 next to Devonta Smith who is already blossoming in his own right. Probably just gonna go and try one of the top receivers in the draft, but I mean Howie Roseman's WR draft track record is atrocious so... again, if they gave up picks for Deebo maybe it wouldn't be the worst decision you heard the reports that JJAW is moving to TE ? I mean between him and Reagor it’s not been great. Still any eagles WR needs a QB who can actually throw the ball to them would be a plus. The amount of times last season where the eagles WR had to come back to the ball because Hurts couldn’t get the ball to them was annoying after a while. The eagles also need to address the issues with the red zone offense which seemed to get hit with the MIB zapper device and look like idiots. I recall a game against the niners which was particularly annoying.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 26, 2022 22:10:51 GMT -5
GET YOUR DIVA SALEH
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 27, 2022 10:34:36 GMT -5
Is it just me or is the draft just kinda blah this year? Not the talent but I'm usually hyped as hell for this but this year, I forgot it starting soon (tonight?). There just seems to be no buzz this year, no reason to be excited or anything.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 27, 2022 11:02:16 GMT -5
Is it just me or is the draft just kinda blah this year? Not the talent but I'm usually hyped as hell for this but this year, I forgot it starting soon (tonight?). There just seems to be no buzz this year, no reason to be excited or anything. Yeah, I think when there's no superstar QB prospect it just gets kind of boring.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 27, 2022 11:35:36 GMT -5
The "best" QB prospect is a dude that's most famous for the fake slide, a move that if he tried in the NFL he'd end up in the ER soon after because the defense will stop believing he's giving himself up.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 27, 2022 15:10:15 GMT -5
Is it just me or is the draft just kinda blah this year? Not the talent but I'm usually hyped as hell for this but this year, I forgot it starting soon (tonight?). There just seems to be no buzz this year, no reason to be excited or anything. Starts Thursday I'm excited but I'm bias, Eagles have insane draft capitol this year.
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