Gus Richlen Was Wrong
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Sept 22, 2021 22:53:27 GMT -5
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 23, 2021 2:39:46 GMT -5
Hope it's an 18+ show!
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 23, 2021 2:41:55 GMT -5
Reminds me of Aron Stevens. But you know, an Aron Stevens who you should never leave your drink unattended with. uh...he didn't drug anyone That's fair. He'll just pump you full of alcohol to get you in bed, regardless of age or conflict of interest. |
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Post by Heartbreaker on Sept 23, 2021 2:43:09 GMT -5
Please keep the creep away from teen girls.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 23, 2021 2:50:19 GMT -5
How does this dude now look more like someone who'd bang drunk teenagers? Why the hell would you lean into that?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 23, 2021 5:45:54 GMT -5
f***, the Elite are gonna take this nonce back, aren't they? f***. They're yet to sign Tessa, Flair, Joey Ryan and others scumbags, they aren't going to undo their PR efforts just for him. |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 23, 2021 6:03:02 GMT -5
Like yeh I was a big fan of the guy ,but please just stay away.The only news I want to see him in is if he is doing something to make up for what he has done.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Sept 23, 2021 6:36:52 GMT -5
f***, the Elite are gonna take this nonce back, aren't they? f***. They're yet to sign Tessa, Flair, Joey Ryan and others scumbags, they aren't going to undo their PR efforts just for him. Yeah AEW has been pretty careful about this stuff. The only talent problematic in this way they’ve kept on I can think of are Sammy Guevara and Darby Allin, but those two are very different than what Scurll has admitted too. With Sammy Guevara he said something really bad on a podcast pre-AEW. I remember when it came out people thought that would cost him his career. He faced disciplinary action, but has been kept on. He hasn’t been accused of assault or anything though. With Darby Allin, he has been accused of something more severe. But it’s a Matt Riddle situation. He has been working with AEW concerning it, hasn’t admitted to anything, and hasn’t had anything proven against him. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 23, 2021 7:16:17 GMT -5
They're yet to sign Tessa, Flair, Joey Ryan and others scumbags, they aren't going to undo their PR efforts just for him. Yeah AEW has been pretty careful about this stuff. The only talent problematic in this way they’ve kept on I can think of are Sammy Guevara and Darby Allin, but those two are very different than what Scurll has admitted too. With Sammy Guevara he said something really bad on a podcast pre-AEW. I remember when it came out people thought that would cost him his career. He faced disciplinary action, but has been kept on. He hasn’t been accused of assault or anything though. With Darby Allin, he has been accused of something more severe. But it’s a Matt Riddle situation. He has been working with AEW concerning it, hasn’t admitted to anything, and hasn’t had anything proven against him. And with Darby and Sammy, their issues weren't widely known before signing. I think with Marty, it's good to remember that the bucks are close to the other notorious Marty, Jannetty. His issues are well known so he hasn't been used by AEW in any capacity, and the elite really do like helping their friends so that says it all really. |
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Sept 23, 2021 8:24:09 GMT -5
f***, the Elite are gonna take this nonce back, aren't they? f***. They're yet to sign Tessa, Flair, Joey Ryan and others scumbags, they aren't going to undo their PR efforts just for him. People need to stop panicking about AEW bringing them in every time some shindy gives these lowlives a booking. If they didn't bring in Tessa or Flair they sure as shit ain't changing their stance for this nonce. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 23, 2021 8:31:11 GMT -5
They're yet to sign Tessa, Flair, Joey Ryan and others scumbags, they aren't going to undo their PR efforts just for him. People need to stop panicking about AEW bringing them in every time some shindy gives these lowlives a booking. If they didn't bring in Tessa or Flair they sure as shit ain't changing their stance for this nonce. Yeah, like Tessa is someone who I could see maybe getting hired. Not likely, but maybe. Joey and Marty are both firmly in "not f***ing happening" territory, both because they were friends who betrayed their trust in a personal way, which resulted in BTE basically unpersoning both of them, and Joey's attempt to launch a SLAPP lawsuit directed at Penelope Ford. Cornette has a higher chance of appearing on a Dynamite than either guy combined. |
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Post by Andy Martin on Sept 23, 2021 9:13:05 GMT -5
"The Red Flag" Marty Scurll. The “Woop Woop” that you hear are the alarm bells ringing. |
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Post by Viking Hall on Sept 23, 2021 9:55:08 GMT -5
Good luck to him.
Personally, I really don't have a problem with him being 'back' but it's certainly going to be interesting to see where he ends up.
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Post by pinja on Sept 23, 2021 9:59:52 GMT -5
He looks like Steven Seagal cosplaying as Cliff Compton / Domino.  |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 23, 2021 10:03:41 GMT -5
He looks like the hipster son of Bruiser Brody.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 23, 2021 10:56:35 GMT -5
People need to stop panicking about AEW bringing them in every time some shindy gives these lowlives a booking. If they didn't bring in Tessa or Flair they sure as shit ain't changing their stance for this nonce. Yeah, like Tessa is someone who I could see maybe getting hired. Not likely, but maybe. Joey and Marty are both firmly in "not f***ing happening" territory, both because they were friends who betrayed their trust in a personal way, which resulted in BTE basically unpersoning both of them, and Joey's attempt to launch a SLAPP lawsuit directed at Penelope Ford. Cornette has a higher chance of appearing on a Dynamite than either guy combined. Hangman Page seems to like, outright hate Marty Scurll now, too. |
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Post by salz4life on Sept 23, 2021 11:02:57 GMT -5
Can anyone post the image from the OP again? It's not showing up for me. (maybe it's just me)
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Post by pinja on Sept 23, 2021 11:07:28 GMT -5
Can anyone post the image from the OP again? It's not showing up for me. (maybe it's just me) There you go! |
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Sept 23, 2021 11:07:48 GMT -5
Good luck to him. Personally, I really don't have a problem with him being 'back' but it's certainly going to be interesting to see where he ends up. I wonder if he might end up in NOAH or AJPW or something, since I believe a wrestler's exploits outside of Japan aren't really seen as especially important there. They don't have the interest in expanding into the West that NJPW did when they canned him immediately after bringing him back, and I know of a couple of Japanese promotions (albeit much smaller ones) who've booked some very dodgy people in the past. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 23, 2021 11:28:00 GMT -5
I'm not fully against Scurll eventually working his way back into the industry given that there's no indication that he's a serial perpetrator that someone like Joey Ryan was outed for being. I do think parts of the story seem to get missed in translation sometimes: for example, Scurll didn't drug anybody, the girl wasn't "his student", and I believe he and the girl he slept with were both already inebriated before their separate groups convened at the bar where he did what he did. None of that takes away from the fact that he did something flat-out wrong and deserves to have faced consequences for it, but just from my own perspective (which is obviously all this is, just my own take) I've never put him on that tier of scumbag that we learned Joey Ryan and David Starr were, where it's 100% clear they can never be trusted around the wrestling industry again...or hell, in the case of those two pretty much about women again, full stop.
However, even with me probably being more charitable than most on that, I don't really want to see him making some kind of grand comeback until he demonstrates some actions that make clear he appreciates how bad what he did really was; for example, I'd feel better about it if we were hearing about him making public statements fully owning up to what he did and how he's tried to grow since, maybe offering free talks to other men in pro wrestling about the importance of realizing what proper boundaries are and about owning your own misdeeds and accepting the consequences, etc. The fact is, even if Scurll's sins here aren't on the level of Ryan and Starr they're still part and parcel of why Speaking Out was so important: they were reflective of a wrestling industry where the seeming baked-in expectation was that backstage and parties were just the wild west, that sex with women in the industry would just be a given, that all of it was "just having fun" or whatever. It's important that the people who were outed for doing something wrong be held to account, to send an industry-wide message "we don't do this anymore, accept the consequences for your actions, grow up or get out", and while Scurll has faced some notable consequences it would still feel wrong if he just waltzed back in like "Hey, a year's passed, let's just move on without addressing the super obvious elephant in the room."
I even get it if some of his peers in the industry are happy to see him back, but I'm sure not everybody is (see: the reported backstage reaction to him appearing at a NJPW Strong taping a number of months ago), and it's important for the paying audience to be addressed, too.
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