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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Oct 8, 2021 22:50:08 GMT -5
Idk if TK knew about SD about to clash with Rampage, by putting matches like Ruby vs Bunny or Punk vs Sydal. ...I almost want Smackdown to win the head-to-head for a half hour just because the hubris of this makes me roll my eyes.
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Post by markymark on Oct 8, 2021 22:54:44 GMT -5
Khan shouldve booked Shida vs Ruby to counter Becky vs Sasha
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 8, 2021 22:58:19 GMT -5
Khan shouldve booked Shida vs Ruby to counter Becky vs Sasha I mean he had no idea about any of that when he set the card. He could load the card up more now but they should be fine.
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Post by raymondo316 on Oct 8, 2021 23:27:45 GMT -5
Idk if TK knew about SD about to clash with Rampage, by putting matches like Ruby vs Bunny or Punk vs Sydal. Smackdown's on FS1. Half their viewing audience if not more literally can't watch the product next week live so I doubt AEW's worried about an overlap. Last time Smackdown was moved to FS1 they did over a million, Tony Khan probably should've kept his mouth shut here.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 8, 2021 23:28:35 GMT -5
...I almost want Smackdown to win the head-to-head for a half hour just because the hubris of this makes me roll my eyes. WWE are the ones doing a half hour runover on a satellite channel. Yet AEW "isn't competition". So I don't mind Khan with a snappy comeback. If Rampage somehow wins that half hour over a go-home show to a Saudi Arabia blood money PPV I can't say I'm gonna be upset. Nor am I rolling my eyes at the prospect. Even if they don't win I think it's better not to flinch when WWE are clearly trying to undercut without addressing it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 8, 2021 23:32:59 GMT -5
Smackdown's on FS1. Half their viewing audience if not more literally can't watch the product next week live so I doubt AEW's worried about an overlap. Last time Smackdown was moved to FS1 they did over a million, Tony Khan probably should've kept his mouth shut here. Should note I didn't even know Khan wrote a tweet about it when I made that post. I still dont think AEW's worried about an overlap. WWE and AEW fans dont intersect much and the "War" proved that
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 8, 2021 23:43:10 GMT -5
Meltzer noted when Rampage first started that the crossover from SmackDown to Rampage was incredibly small. They're two different audiences. If you were to make a prediction, there's a lot going on here. For starters, I think Tony was referring to that half hour overlap. Rampage shouldn't be beating SmackDown no matter what channel it's one given the different timeslots. He also views victory as the 18-49 number which makes sense and WWE likely does the same as well (keep in mind SmackDown is often #1 in 18-49 for the night but last in total viewership so that metric benefits them as well). So if you're only focusing on 18-49 and that 30 minute slot, they have a real shot. SmackDown on FS1 did a .30 the last time I checked. Given the unfamiliar time slot on top of the unfamiliar channel, I don't see those 30 minutes doing better and likely they'll do worse no matter what you put on (see Lashley and Big E's cage match being a low point with how late it was). Rampage will also have a live factor and CM Punk is almost certainly stating the show and he's been a ratings mover on Rampage thus far. It will be competitive.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 9, 2021 2:18:11 GMT -5
Meltzer noted when Rampage first started that the crossover from SmackDown to Rampage was incredibly small. They're two different audiences. If you were to make a prediction, there's a lot going on here. For starters, I think Tony was referring to that half hour overlap. Rampage shouldn't be beating SmackDown no matter what channel it's one given the different timeslots. He also views victory as the 18-49 number which makes sense and WWE likely does the same as well (keep in mind SmackDown is often #1 in 18-49 for the night but last in total viewership so that metric benefits them as well). So if you're only focusing on 18-49 and that 30 minute slot, they have a real shot. SmackDown on FS1 did a .30 the last time I checked. Given the unfamiliar time slot on top of the unfamiliar channel, I don't see those 30 minutes doing better and likely they'll do worse no matter what you put on (see Lashley and Big E's cage match being a low point with how late it was). Rampage will also have a live factor and CM Punk is almost certainly stating the show and he's been a ratings mover on Rampage thus far. It will be competitive. All they really have to do imo is be competitive. Win or Lose I'm more curious how baseball might dig into both of them by that time since that's the whole reason Smackdown moved... but by 10PM it might be less of an issue at least on Rampage's end
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Post by stoptheclocks on Oct 9, 2021 2:32:58 GMT -5
All Tony has done is ensure a week or so of tedious chat about ratings.
Like, if Rampage beats a Smackdown preempted to a channel nobody watches in a specific demographic for half an hour... what does that prove exactly? It'll then go back to being 2m vs 600k every week thereafter.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 9, 2021 2:41:41 GMT -5
All Tony has done is ensure a week or so of tedious chat about ratings. Like, if Rampage beats a Smackdown preempted to a channel nobody watches in a specific demographic for half an hour... what does that prove exactly? It'll then go back to being 2m vs 600k every week thereafter. You could argue WWE did that anyway with the half hour overrun too. In terms of the discourse I think you could find guilt in both sides. In the end though... it was probably gonna happen anyway. Especially on Twitter.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 9, 2021 2:42:39 GMT -5
Khan shouldve booked Shida vs Ruby to counter Becky vs Sasha I mean he had no idea about any of that when he set the card. He could load the card up more now but they should be fine. Yeah I imagine they won't need to do anything. I also think people are undercutting how good Punk vs Sydal could really be... Punk's looking more and more solid in ring and Sydal's just... Sydal.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Oct 9, 2021 5:45:24 GMT -5
All Tony has done is ensure a week or so of tedious chat about ratings. Like, if Rampage beats a Smackdown preempted to a channel nobody watches in a specific demographic for half an hour... what does that prove exactly? It'll then go back to being 2m vs 600k every week thereafter. You could argue WWE did that anyway with the half hour overrun too. In terms of the discourse I think you could find guilt in both sides. In the end though... it was probably gonna happen anyway. Especially on Twitter. I mean, you can't really though, can you? Like, come on. Guilt is too strong a term, it's just baiting people on the internet to have an argument that literally has no purpose. And there's enough of that around to begin with.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 9, 2021 5:51:11 GMT -5
You could argue WWE did that anyway with the half hour overrun too. In terms of the discourse I think you could find built in both sides. In the end though... it was probably gonna happen anyway. Especially on Twitter. I mean, you can't really though, can you? Like, come on. Guilt is too strong a term, it's just baiting people on the internet to have an argument that literally has no purpose. And there's enough of that around to begin with. They were gonna argue about it anyway. And really WWE are the ones who start the shit in the first place to me. A singular tweet in a vacuum doesn't seem like a huge deal to me. But I dont put stock into those internet arguments either.
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Post by chrom on Oct 9, 2021 16:59:32 GMT -5
Why can't we get Leyla or KiLynn against Ruby? Stop trying to make Allie a star, she's just not any good.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 9, 2021 17:25:44 GMT -5
Why can't we get Leyla or KiLynn against Ruby? Stop trying to make Allie a star, she's just not any good. She's a midcard heel. She's perfectly fine in that role and she's more than likely not winning this match. The notion that Allie is useless from FAN will continue to baffle me. You NEED midcard heels in a division. I don't care if Allie's not a workhorse. She plays that role perfectly and they aren't positioning her as a lead of the division. But be the fall girl for other big faces while sometimes cheating to win. And I get that some people are miffed because this might go head to head with Sasha/Becky? But AEW didn't know that at the time and frankly WWE being that desperate is on them.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 9, 2021 17:34:52 GMT -5
Getting this thread back on track... quite a few matches I'm already very excited for
Malakai vs Dante could rule. Just let Dante cut loose and Malakai be Malakai. He's also gonna wrestle in the same venue he debuted in just a few months ago which I think is appropriate.
Danielson vs Fish should also be a banger. I knew with him signing that was going to be a match. Glad to see it happening so soon too. Twi great grappler/strikers. Could be a classic if given enough time.
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Post by chrom on Oct 9, 2021 21:30:08 GMT -5
Lucha Bros retained the AAA Tag Titles tonight at Heroes Immortales.
Meaning the AAA Tag Title Match is a go next Saturday.
They were confronted post match by Dragon Lee and Dralistico
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Oct 9, 2021 21:36:25 GMT -5
We'll probably get some sort of promo from Hangman on Saturday, perhaps confirming the Full Gear match.
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Post by markymark on Oct 9, 2021 21:38:43 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 10, 2021 0:21:34 GMT -5
I wonder if it was gonna be RUSH and Dragon Lee before the knee injury. All signs pointed to that.
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