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Post by dynamitekidd on Oct 12, 2021 18:14:23 GMT -5
He’s over af which is the main thing. As long as they give him something big before his overness dies down he’ll be fine.
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Post by Muskrat on Oct 12, 2021 18:18:00 GMT -5
Dude got pinned by Adam Cole twice in a week, JB is clearly being built up to score a big win over Cole. I’m not the least bit concerned about him Just like getting pinned by MJF three times built up to, um, Luchasaurus pinning Wardlow. Jungle Boy shouldn’t have been pinning MJF yet. MJF is like the most protected dude in the company, has he ever been pinned or subbed clean in any singles match? They are absolutely in 2 different positions. Jungle Boy will have his time, and it will certainly intersect with MJF again. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Jungle Boy’s first title involves MJF and the whole “you can’t beat me” story but the MJF/JB story is clearly something they’re playing the long game on.
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Post by Blade on Oct 12, 2021 22:37:04 GMT -5
He does lose matches against a lot of top guys, but it's worth noting he also HAS a lot more matches with top guys than the other three pillars. He's also reasonably protected, rarely taking the pin when JE loses. I can understand concern, but I think they're just doing a different sort of push with him.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 13, 2021 4:18:16 GMT -5
That is a terminology that only applies in a form of wrestling AEW doesn't subscribe to.
Winning is not the only thing that gets you over and losing is not necessarily killing your heat.
This shit is fake. Good storytelling gets the winner and loser more over, and Jungle Boy is one of the most over guys they have.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 13, 2021 10:15:03 GMT -5
What I wanna know is why is Hangman not considered one of the pillars? Is he not "homegrown" enough?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 10:30:18 GMT -5
What I wanna know is why is Hangman not considered one of the pillars? Is he not "homegrown" enough? I think the concept is still "future" pillars, while Hangman challenged in the first World Title, seems to be destined to beat Omega which puts him as a main eventer now. The other four are still in the "upper midcard" which isn't a bad place to be. Hangman being a product of ROH/NJPW does make it more arguable he isn't homegrown as well. But homegrown is weird in general to me. Starks and Pillman Jr both say they are AEW homegrown instead of NWA/MLW, but which is it really? This is also why I'm fine with Jungle Boy not reaching the big one yet. AEW loves to have first title wins/ finally getting over an obstacle really mean something. Darby finally overcoming Cody for the TNT title for example. When Jungle Boy does win the big one I think it will be similar. Kid's 25, AEW sees a lot in him and will have payoff someday.
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Post by clifford on Oct 13, 2021 10:33:02 GMT -5
Winning is not the only thing that gets you over and losing is not necessarily killing your heat.This shit is fake. Good storytelling gets the winner and loser more over, and Jungle Boy is one of the most over guys they have. I think decades of shit booking with this exact mentality being the opposite has warped most of our minds when it comes to wrestling, including mine
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Post by sunnytaker on Oct 16, 2021 0:07:21 GMT -5
i think they're putting jungle boy in these spots so he can show he can hang with the top guys but just loses out due to the opponent's "veteran experience" in the end. since he's the worst promo of the 4 pillars he's the one who needs to get over on what he does in the ring more than the other 3 do. so putting him in these high profile matches all the time is passed off as his "learning curve" and in time he'll figure out how to take the next step and start winning them. which also gives him time to work more on his promos for when that time comes and he starts getting actual programs for singles titles down the road.
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