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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 20, 2021 9:36:49 GMT -5
We can debate the meaning of “casual viewer” “lapsed fan” “general audience” all we want but there’s enough people in this thread, on Reddit, on Twitter, that have said AEW is hard to get into or have had girlfriends, friends, etc say the characters are bland, or they have to know the history of six companies. These people do exist they would probably watch if AEW made their program more accessible. Saying they don’t exist then focusing on ratings threads is counterintuitive. Just comes off as “it’s the children that are wrong.” AEW is a great company and maybe they should just doing what their doing, but there are plenty of small changes if they want to take things to next level. Thanks for watching…. The problem is that people speak with some sort of authority that X will be the key to appeal to a vaguely undefined mass of basically 'everyone who isn't watching AEW'. It's not about making changes or identifying issues, it's that there is no one-size-fits-all solution that just magically makes your show more appealing. You can see it in when people say that AEW needs bigger wrestlers and that pushing Adam Cole hurts them in the eyes of 'lapsed fans' as though everyone who's dipped out of being into wrestling in the past thirty years is only concerned with dudes' sizes and not the diverse myriad of reasons from WCW going under period to WWE's creative failures to the 'eh it was cool back in 1998 but now it's kinda lame' people who straight up are never coming back. That's not to say there aren't some people who would watch the show if dudes were bigger, but that doesn't mean that it's a market they should chase, nor that it would result in notably bigger ratings. The problem is that people want to say X is the key and the best they ever have is some anecdotal case to bring to the table. There isn't some fix-it solution that'll just opens the gates up and have everything be cool, and the issue with it is that people will be super reductive in the claim that it will. They have flaws they should address, but they should address them to improve the show and not out of the hope it'll be the magic option that makes everyone like them, because that's a fantasy. Some people just aren't gonna like a show, and that's okay.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 20, 2021 11:59:00 GMT -5
We can debate the meaning of “casual viewer” “lapsed fan” “general audience” all we want but there’s enough people in this thread, on Reddit, on Twitter, that have said AEW is hard to get into or have had girlfriends, friends, etc say the characters are bland, or they have to know the history of six companies. These people do exist they would probably watch if AEW made their program more accessible. Saying they don’t exist then focusing on ratings threads is counterintuitive. Just comes off as “it’s the children that are wrong.” AEW is a great company and maybe they should just doing what their doing, but there are plenty of small changes if they want to take things to next level. Thanks for watching…. The problem is that people speak with some sort of authority that X will be the key to appeal to a vaguely undefined mass of basically 'everyone who isn't watching AEW'. It's not about making changes or identifying issues, it's that there is no one-size-fits-all solution that just magically makes your show more appealing. You can see it in when people say that AEW needs bigger wrestlers and that pushing Adam Cole hurts them in the eyes of 'lapsed fans' as though everyone who's dipped out of being into wrestling in the past thirty years is only concerned with dudes' sizes and not the diverse myriad of reasons from WCW going under period to WWE's creative failures to the 'eh it was cool back in 1998 but now it's kinda lame' people who straight up are never coming back. That's not to say there aren't some people who would watch the show if dudes were bigger, but that doesn't mean that it's a market they should chase, nor that it would result in notably bigger ratings. The problem is that people want to say X is the key and the best they ever have is some anecdotal case to bring to the table. There isn't some fix-it solution that'll just opens the gates up and have everything be cool, and the issue with it is that people will be super reductive in the claim that it will. They have flaws they should address, but they should address them to improve the show and not out of the hope it'll be the magic option that makes everyone like them, because that's a fantasy. Some people just aren't gonna like a show, and that's okay. You ate right these people are all stupid. What Im the only one that knows the key to bring back lapsed fans!Stupid marks
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Post by Dub H on Oct 20, 2021 12:00:36 GMT -5
Since we're on the page of debunking the "casual fan" and "mainstream audience" myths, I will die on the hill of believing that success is based almost entirely on hype and excitement created by fans enjoying the product. People next to the fans see this and wonder what the big deal is. It's a chain reaction that grows when a new person enjoys the product and onward. This is why I thinks it's horse shit when someone says "they are only catering to their fans!" Even before AEW and not just wrestling I always defend that before you can hit a big mainstream audience ,you need a product that pleases your core audience
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