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Post by Tiffany Stratton's Daddy on Dec 4, 2021 23:12:25 GMT -5
With WWE's job security as of late, I doubt many people jump from AEW to the E.
I figure most will re-sign with AEW if the atmosphere and culture remains. If they don't re-sign, they might opt to strictly work the independents... or if another promotion pops up?
Of the ones I think are gone after their current deals expire: Brian Cage, TH2, Daniels, Kazarian, Janela, Archer, Luther
That list might be longer once AEW goes shopping on the free agent market.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 4, 2021 23:16:04 GMT -5
With WWE's job security as of late, I doubt many people jump from AEW to the E. I figure most will re-sign with AEW if the atmosphere and culture remains. If they don't re-sign, they might opt to strictly work the independents... or if another promotion pops up? Of the ones I think are gone after their current deals expire: Brian Cage, TH2, Daniels, Kazarian, Janela, Archer, Luther That list might be longer once AEW goes shopping on the free agent market. Daniels at least is still Head of Talent Relations I think so I imagine he stays in that position and continues to do what he's doing now where he works select indie dates.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 4, 2021 23:20:01 GMT -5
With WWE's job security as of late, I doubt many people jump from AEW to the E. I figure most will re-sign with AEW if the atmosphere and culture remains. If they don't re-sign, they might opt to strictly work the independents... or if another promotion pops up? Of the ones I think are gone after their current deals expire: Brian Cage, TH2, Daniels, Kazarian, Janela, Archer, Luther That list might be longer once AEW goes shopping on the free agent market. Luther has a backstage role in AEW, he's riding out Chaos Project till he retires imo. SCU is too close to the EVPs, Daniels might be done soon anyway but Kaz is real solid. Daniels does backstage stuff in AEW. Cage might've done himself in, but his deal isnt officially up for awhile. People forget he signed in tbe pandemic era. Archer is the same, he signed right before it. Archer is well pushed and well over though. TH2 is a weird case where i could see Evans go, but they'd be mad to let Angelico go. All the new technical toys the got? He fits in now more than ever. Janela signed a year extension and said he doesn't want to leave and wants to earn his keep. I think he realizes it's crunch time because he's gotten into great shape lately.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 5, 2021 11:56:07 GMT -5
WWE changed their wellness policy to allow a removal of one strike if you've been clean for X amount of time specifically so they wouldn't have to fire Randy Orton when he got his third strike. It's a joke and always has been. Is that a joke, though? Doesn’t mean the policy doesn’t have teeth. Does every good athlete drug policy need to have an automatic termination as part of the policy in order to be worth anything? Also worth noting, to get the strike removed there’s also treatment by a professional for potential addiction issues that you have to undergo. It is a joke when you add that rule specifically to keep your guy. Plus all the other issues already brought up
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 5, 2021 18:03:46 GMT -5
Is that a joke, though? Doesn’t mean the policy doesn’t have teeth. Does every good athlete drug policy need to have an automatic termination as part of the policy in order to be worth anything? Also worth noting, to get the strike removed there’s also treatment by a professional for potential addiction issues that you have to undergo. It is a joke when you add that rule specifically to keep your guy. Plus all the other issues already brought up Again, there’s no law that says they need to even have a drug policy (AEW by all accounts doesn’t have one or at least doesn’t test talent even if their contracts say they can be tested). If they want to create pathways for talent to get strikes removed when the whole strike system is a self-imposed system anyway, I don’t see that as making everything a joke, especially when the rule to get strikes removed makes sense for a policy such as this. Many employers have similar disciplinary policies where a disciplinary action can be erased after a period of good conduct.
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Dec 5, 2021 19:18:14 GMT -5
Is that a joke, though? Doesn’t mean the policy doesn’t have teeth. Does every good athlete drug policy need to have an automatic termination as part of the policy in order to be worth anything? Also worth noting, to get the strike removed there’s also treatment by a professional for potential addiction issues that you have to undergo. It is a joke when you add that rule specifically to keep your guy. Plus all the other issues already brought up You are wasting your time. People lack objectivity with their WWE fandom. I think Jindar Mahal's transformation and back acne proved to everyone how "solid" their wellness policy is, and it's not like WWE is the bastion of moraltity. I would stick to AEW discussion, instead of bad faith discussions about WWE policy.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 5, 2021 20:58:36 GMT -5
It is a joke when you add that rule specifically to keep your guy. Plus all the other issues already brought up You are wasting your time. People lack objectivity with their WWE fandom. I think Jindar Mahal's transformation and back acne proved to everyone how "solid" their wellness policy is, and it's not like WWE is the bastion of moraltity. I would stick to AEW discussion, instead of bad faith discussions about WWE policy. People can be objective when it comes to WWE topics and AEW topics. Doesn’t make for helpful discussion when discussion or debate with any depth is shut down as being due to someone being biased for one company.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 5, 2021 21:42:09 GMT -5
It is a joke when you add that rule specifically to keep your guy. Plus all the other issues already brought up You are wasting your time. People lack objectivity with their WWE fandom. I think Jindar Mahal's transformation and back acne proved to everyone how "solid" their wellness policy is, and it's not like WWE is the bastion of moraltity. I would stick to AEW discussion, instead of bad faith discussions about WWE policy. Its fine,Polarpete and I disagree on a lot of stuff but he is a polite guy,at this point I think we both kinda expect to just not agree with each other but we get along
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 9:03:47 GMT -5
You are wasting your time. People lack objectivity with their WWE fandom. I think Jindar Mahal's transformation and back acne proved to everyone how "solid" their wellness policy is, and it's not like WWE is the bastion of moraltity. I would stick to AEW discussion, instead of bad faith discussions about WWE policy. I disagree with polarbearpete most of the time on WWE-related matters, including this exact topic, but he's been nothing but cordial and polite in my interactions with him. The bad faith discussion comes from the people who only ever seem to show up in ratings threads to gloat about how the company is doomed, or to kvetch about some aspect of the company's booking. He's not one of the people doing that so he's cool in my book.
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Post by markymark on Dec 7, 2021 11:04:31 GMT -5
Well he is a goner for the looks of it
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 7, 2021 11:20:12 GMT -5
Well he is a goner for the looks of it I love Jack. But it is a dog-eat-dog world.
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Dec 7, 2021 11:49:46 GMT -5
Well he is a goner for the looks of it I love Jack. But it is a dog-eat-dog world. Jack Evans wasn't booked from mid February until mid March of 2020, before the pandemic. He also wasn't booked mid August until mid October of 2020. He is often quoted as saying how he didn't propose enough storylines to Tony Khan, and therefore wasn't getting booked. He's gotten shots here and there, but it's never been consistent. If AEW had signed 100 people or just 2 since 2020, I think Jack would have not been re-newed. It's also very telling that he's taken zero bookings outside of AEW in 2020 and 2021, even though he was used sparingly.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 7, 2021 11:55:36 GMT -5
Although I think Angelico may leave as well, I often got the impression that Tony was more interested in Angelico as a singles guy than TH2 as a team but they brought Evans in as a favor. They always seemed to treat Angelico with respect and treated Evans like a goober.
Still wouldn't be shocked if both leave or Angelico decides to stay solo
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Dec 7, 2021 12:00:59 GMT -5
Although I think Angelico may leave as well, I often got the impression that Tony was more interested in Angelico as a singles guy than TH2 as a team but they brought Evans in as a favor. They always seemed to treat Angelico with respect and treated Evans like a goober. Still wouldn't be shocked if both leave or Angelico decides to stay solo Angelico is an amazing talent, and could really work well in something like a Team Taz. They did give him a small push, then he wasnt given any dates in October or November, until the recent Dark taping. But he did work the Jericho Cruise, so he was healthy. He worked regularly through the summer into September, and then just stopped. I have to imagine something must of happened, but who knows what. I'd like to see him re-signed and getting a push. I thought he was a goner, but the Dark taping made me think maybe not.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Dec 7, 2021 12:13:32 GMT -5
If it were possible to keep Angelico, that’s the one from TH2 I’d keep. Jack Evans is great, but Angelico has the style that ages better. You could put him in the stable that Bryan would want to build, to keep him relevant with a major star.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 7, 2021 12:53:27 GMT -5
Although I think Angelico may leave as well, I often got the impression that Tony was more interested in Angelico as a singles guy than TH2 as a team but they brought Evans in as a favor. They always seemed to treat Angelico with respect and treated Evans like a goober. Still wouldn't be shocked if both leave or Angelico decides to stay solo A lot of the early signees seemed to be "really good guys with potential to either flop or be amazing". But it was really obvious they didnt have the clout to get ALL the big hirings they are getting now Guys like Janela ,TH2,Kip,Swole kinda dropped over time. some guys like Sammy,Darby, OC ,JB ,LuchaSaurus,Dark Order,Riho went to be big deals. Some guys like Private Party,Nyla, The Bunny exist,they do things but dont exactly move up or down the totem pole. And then There Scorpio Sky which they keep trying to make a thing
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 7, 2021 13:15:52 GMT -5
Although I think Angelico may leave as well, I often got the impression that Tony was more interested in Angelico as a singles guy than TH2 as a team but they brought Evans in as a favor. They always seemed to treat Angelico with respect and treated Evans like a goober. Still wouldn't be shocked if both leave or Angelico decides to stay solo A lot of the early signees seemed to be "really good guys with potential to either flop or be amazing". But it was really obvious they didnt have the clout to get ALL the big hirings they are getting now Guys like Janela ,TH2,Kip,Swole kinda dropped over time. some guys like Sammy,Darby, OC ,JB ,LuchaSaurus,Dark Order,Riho went to be big deals. Some guys like Private Party,Nyla, The Bunny exist,they do things but dont exactly move up or down the totem pole. And then There Scorpio Sky which they keep trying to make a thing Ya gonna happen. I know Joey has kind of been his own worst enemy with some of his social media antics. Others it's just bad luck (like Kip) Some just don't click. It'll happen
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 7, 2021 13:57:25 GMT -5
Tweeting this out doesn't necessarily help Jack's case. It makes it seem like he's given up.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Dec 7, 2021 16:43:58 GMT -5
Tweeting this out doesn't necessarily help Jack's case. It makes it seem like he's given up. Jack seems to be way too honest and forthcoming for his own good. This and the whole "I didn't get booked because I didn't propose storylines" thing, it's more than a lot of people would say in public. At least he's aware of it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 7, 2021 16:56:24 GMT -5
Tweeting this out doesn't necessarily help Jack's case. It makes it seem like he's given up. Jack seems to be way too honest and forthcoming for his own good. This and the whole "I didn't get booked because I didn't propose storylines" thing, it's more than a lot of people would say in public. At least he's aware of it. He should be making some sort of effort tough, like Janela has been public be needs to do more and he's gotten into great shape and turned heel with a cool muscle valet in Rossi. Evans could be doing something even on tbe DARKs, but since he got his head shaved he's had one match. He's not even appearing with HFO I hope Angelico can stick around even if Jack doesn't, despite the names coming into AEW, Angelico and his style still stand out incredibly well
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