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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 29, 2022 1:18:14 GMT -5
I mean the immediate aftermath of him winning the TNT title was them getting their asses kicked repeatedly then losing to a guy who wasn't under contract and didn't stick around afterward. They've always been pathetic. I don't even know who you're talking about in this situation. Cody? Because it's weird to connect him to that when he didn't leave AEW until months later. I might just be blacking out on this, because Brodie's TNT run was fine, just ended when Cody came back in the Dog Collar Match We literally have no idea what was going to happen next, the Hangman feud was hinted at, but Dark Order's trajectory as a whole was definitely hindered when Brodie passed. They got a few moments and celebrated with Hangman when he won the belt, but it does seem like as a group, it might be time for a new direction, new blood, and a new leader, or as you said they might just fizzle entirely. But the thought of them fizzling entirely seems weird, so I guess we'll see if Rochester's Show does anything with them or we get a surprise. I'm talking about Cardona.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 29, 2022 1:25:53 GMT -5
I don't even know who you're talking about in this situation. Cody? Because it's weird to connect him to that when he didn't leave AEW until months later. I might just be blacking out on this, because Brodie's TNT run was fine, just ended when Cody came back in the Dog Collar Match We literally have no idea what was going to happen next, the Hangman feud was hinted at, but Dark Order's trajectory as a whole was definitely hindered when Brodie passed. They got a few moments and celebrated with Hangman when he won the belt, but it does seem like as a group, it might be time for a new direction, new blood, and a new leader, or as you said they might just fizzle entirely. But the thought of them fizzling entirely seems weird, so I guess we'll see if Rochester's Show does anything with them or we get a surprise. I'm talking about Cardona. Oh yeah ... Man I forgot that entire thing happened. Cardona was so lukewarm when he first started and then just caught massive fire a bit later.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jun 29, 2022 1:40:42 GMT -5
He was no Frankie Five Angels, that's for sure.
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Post by deezy on Jun 29, 2022 2:09:40 GMT -5
I think it's pretty well past time to just put a fork in the Dark Order. Some of the guys in it could probably catch some momentum doing something else but this stable's a creative dead-end that's never been anything but a joke. Exactly 💯. They're better off being disbanded at this point. Should ended awhile back to be honest.
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Post by clifford on Jun 29, 2022 5:23:42 GMT -5
We'll always have that Fight For The Fallen video package and entrance with Hangman. And their celebration in ring with him after winning the world title. 2 of my favourite moments all time in AEW.
Btw I'm not saying the DO are done, but that iteration is. There could be a rebranding of them, or maybe Uno, Ten and Silver/Reynolds all split off and do their own stuff, as it seems Anna and Colt already have done.
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 29, 2022 6:03:09 GMT -5
I think Dark Order is one of those stables that existed and became popular purely through the force of the personalities contained within it. The DO never had a push and after /that/ horrible Dynamite in the first few months, were never intended for a push. It was only Brodie and the genuine connection they had with the crowd that has kept it together this long. It's a shame, because there's always a place in wrestling for a mid-card act/stable that is as genuinely loved as the DO are. A trios run with a combo of Silver, Reynolds, Uno, and Ten could really benefit them though, if only Khan would finally get the trios division up and running.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jun 29, 2022 7:49:26 GMT -5
This is a shame. I’m pretty annoyed at how Cabana has been pushed aside (I know he was doing some acting, but it was already happening). They just gave these dudes nothing to do after the Hangman win. It was even a small storyline that even Page was drifting from them. Then you know, now they’re being released or just taken out of the group. Hell, they barely ever sold the Creeper masks.
I dunno. AEW is doing fine, but just f***ing up the Dark Order seems like a lot of money and talent left on the table.
I also miss Chuckie T
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 29, 2022 7:55:01 GMT -5
Dark Order getting nothing while FTR have so many belts piled on them they can't even wear them is something I'll never understand.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 29, 2022 8:01:38 GMT -5
It's very clearly just the Brodie Lee Tribute Society at this point but it stands as AEW's biggest creative fumble because there was so much that could have been done and consistently the answer was just "Nothing, nothing will be done"
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 29, 2022 8:41:43 GMT -5
A lot of these wrestlers falling by the wayside is a casualty in the signing spree TK went on. A lot of day one folks either justifiably or unjustifiable will get ignored in favor of bigger names. Its just the vicious cycle of the business. At least being in AEW they can command higher rates when they book indy shows. Although the DO being a group of jobbers after Brodie died was baffling. They could've been a great babyface group. That was a misfire IMO.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 29, 2022 9:09:47 GMT -5
Dark Order basically falls into Tony and Co only seemingly liking Uno, 10, and Silver. Angels may have had that great match with Kenny but unlike with Vance where they had long term interest in him, they never seemed to have much interest in 5
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Post by markymark on Jun 29, 2022 9:13:37 GMT -5
Dark Order basically falls into Tony and Co only seemingly liking Uno, 10, and Silver. Angels may have had that great match with Kenny but unlike with Vance where they had long term interest in him, they never seemed to have much interest in 5
I feel 10 is safe because Negative 1 likes him otherwise he wouldve met the same fate as Angels.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 29, 2022 9:14:26 GMT -5
Dark Order basically falls into Tony and Co only seemingly liking Uno, 10, and Silver. Angels may have had that great match with Kenny but unlike with Vance where they had long term interest in him, they never seemed to have much interest in 5 I honestly got number 10 and Angels mixed up. But honestly thats the fault of the company for not featuring them more especially if folks can't watch the YouTube shows
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Post by chrom on Jun 29, 2022 9:23:01 GMT -5
If any of them are still around by next year, it'll likely be Vance.
Them getting squashed by The Elite has killed their careers
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 29, 2022 9:24:21 GMT -5
I liked both of Angels' matches with Omega, and it's going to be weird not seeing him on Sammy's Vlog anymore.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 29, 2022 9:24:23 GMT -5
If any of them are still around by next year, it'll likely be Vance. Them getting squashed by The Elite has killed their careers I dunno why they didn't get a victory over the Elite. That whole monthly storyline IMO shouldn't have happened and they shouldve just wrote off Page by having him getting attacked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 9:36:14 GMT -5
I dunno why they didn't get a victory over the Elite. That whole monthly storyline IMO shouldn't have happened and they shouldve just wrote off Page by having him getting attacked. They did end up winning over the Elite, though, in the Halloween tag match. The trouble with Dark Order was that they were totally directionless after Hangman won the belt. AEW could've had Hangman join them full-time, or they could've revisited the inter-group schism that had been teased previously...shit, at the very least they could've given us Uno and Stu vs the Young Bucks before Stu's contract was up. They just did nothing of note once the Hangman and Bryan feud was over with.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jun 29, 2022 11:06:25 GMT -5
shit, at the very least they could've given us Uno and Stu vs the Young Bucks before Stu's contract was up. That match did happen, it was a Daily's Place bit with one of the most aggravating Young Bucks finishes of all time. Which kinda feeds into DO being booked as jobbers no matter how over they got or how interesting their character dynamics were.
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Post by sushiburrito on Jun 29, 2022 11:16:09 GMT -5
Dark Order basically falls into Tony and Co only seemingly liking Uno, 10, and Silver. Angels may have had that great match with Kenny but unlike with Vance where they had long term interest in him, they never seemed to have much interest in 5
I feel 10 is safe because Negative 1 likes him otherwise he wouldve met the same fate as Angels.
That's all it takes to not get released? Angels should've been nicer to the kid then.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jun 29, 2022 11:25:24 GMT -5
I feel like Dark Order was put into a difficult position. After Brodie passed, there was no way they could be heels again. On the other hand the stable size was more suited towards a heel stable, since it's hard to get heat on them without them seeming like doofs or dumbasses, which is kind of what happened. Every match they'd all come out but then just leave the one DO member to fight someone they know has heel stablemates. So when the inevitable happened and the person would get jumped, the DO would have to wait a bit and then come out for the save. Think they could have gotten around this issue if they had gone with the civil war aspect and just split the group in a heel and face factions. One group, probably the heels, rename themselves and the faces are a much more manageable size for their alignment.
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