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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 29, 2022 21:44:45 GMT -5
Alan is a solid talent that really needed some more seasoning and touring the indies will help that tremendously, especially being as young as he is. Kid signed a deal at the right time (peak Covid) and kept himself working. Sounds like no bad blood either and ultimately sounds like why Juice Robinson left WWE. Didn't want to be pigeon holed as a jobber
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Post by eJm on Jun 30, 2022 6:51:51 GMT -5
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 30, 2022 7:07:14 GMT -5
I definitely think bouncing is probably the best move Angels has in terms of growing as a talent and finding his own niche because the most I can tell you about the guy from his time in AEW is he's the Dark Order guy that wasn't in a tag team and isn't named 10.
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Post by clifford on Jun 30, 2022 9:36:56 GMT -5
Dude is 24. Why waste some of the most formulating in-ring years of your life being in a huge stable that gets absolute zero tv time. Go off, make your name in promotions around the world, and come back in a few years as a bonafide star.
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Post by Derk! on Jun 30, 2022 10:00:19 GMT -5
Yeah, this is the best move for him. Dude is still a youngster and can only get better by traveling the world. Hell, by him simply being an AEW alumnus, he can already command a higher payrate than he did before. All the best to him....
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Post by flowercity on Jun 30, 2022 10:39:07 GMT -5
Angels should have never taken off the mask.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 30, 2022 10:56:54 GMT -5
Angels should have never taken off the mask. I do think that Angels needs to work on his look a bit... not in terms of body or anything. I mean in terms of presentation. Even 10 does the Deathstroke mask
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 30, 2022 11:29:58 GMT -5
Angels should have never taken off the mask. I admit that I made a joke in the past about him looking like Bryce Remsburg's little brother.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jun 30, 2022 16:47:44 GMT -5
Dark Order getting nothing while FTR have so many belts piled on them they can't even wear them is something I'll never understand. I mean, its probably better to say that you don't understand why FTR is as over as they are (which is fair, I'm not as huge on them as the crowd is either), because the answer to why they have two titles and will probably be getting the main ones too is "they are incredibly, unfathomably over right now." Though to be fair, their first reign came before they exploded in popularity, and I completely agree that Uno and Stu deserved to have a reign in there somewhere.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 30, 2022 17:06:57 GMT -5
Dark Order getting nothing while FTR have so many belts piled on them they can't even wear them is something I'll never understand. I mean, its probably better to say that you don't understand why FTR is as over as they are (which is fair, I'm not as huge on them as the crowd is either), because the answer to why they have two titles and will probably be getting the main ones too is "they are incredibly, unfathomably over right now." Though to be fair, their first reign came before they exploded in popularity, and I completely agree that Uno and Stu deserved to have a reign in there somewhere. It's true, they have earned a lot of their success with how over they are lately, but it was much deader first time round, and I do wonder if Dark Order could have been just as over if given the same effort, emphasise how seamless their tag offense is in the ring, give Grayson singles matches week in and week out like Harwood's had recently, get over what an absolute beast of a wrestler he is, and... Well, let them win a few matches on TV. (Also in the vein of FTR's banger of a theme, give the Dark Order a cool retro-cartoon-villain theme. With all due respect to Ruckus who's usually amazing, I still reckon the entrance music was one of the down points of the DO, quiet and moody without a defining melody or opening sting doesn't work for wrestling entrances.)
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Post by Dub H on Jun 30, 2022 17:14:11 GMT -5
Eh, Dark Order has been just as over as FTR and got squat in return.
FTR is good but at some point enough is enough,you can share the glory around.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 30, 2022 17:59:38 GMT -5
Eh, Dark Order has been just as over as FTR and got squat in return. FTR is good but at some point enough is enough,you can share the glory around. Nah, I love Dark Order, but FTR have been getting god tier pops since their face turn. Dark Order are over, but the only one who gets a pop even close to that on the team is Silver. The Dark Order Pop compared to the pop when the crowd realizes Johnny Hungiee is wrestling is very distinct.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 30, 2022 18:02:57 GMT -5
Eh, Dark Order has been just as over as FTR and got squat in return. FTR is good but at some point enough is enough,you can share the glory around. Nah, I love Dark Order, but FTR have been getting god tier pops since their face turn. Dark Order are over, but the only one who gets a pop even close to that on the team is Silver. The Dark Order Pop compared to the pop when the crowd realizes Johnny Hungiee is wrestling is very distinct. Peak Dark Order has been just as over as FTR if not more and they didnt even get a single win.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jun 30, 2022 18:20:40 GMT -5
Nah, I love Dark Order, but FTR have been getting god tier pops since their face turn. Dark Order are over, but the only one who gets a pop even close to that on the team is Silver. The Dark Order Pop compared to the pop when the crowd realizes Johnny Hungiee is wrestling is very distinct. Peak Dark Order has been just as over as FTR if not more and they didnt even get a single win. Yeah - we're talking 2021 Dark Order, Dark Order going into those Elite matches. Crowd has been absolutely white hot for the lot of them at times, and it's been squandered with ill-timed major losses, every time. FinalGwen made the point well: FTR were getting hot, and AEW kept pushing them and it paid off huge. Dark Order have been hot, from the Hangman association, from the Brodie tribute stuff, from the reconciliation in Rochester, and it has never paid off in a push the way FTR's heat has, and they have never gotten the same sustained attention even when they were breaking out. Even John Silver loses every time he's on Dynamite or Rampage.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Jun 30, 2022 19:02:03 GMT -5
Yeah I will say I don’t think losing Angels is a particularly big deal in as of itself. No disrespect intended to the guy but he’s probably bottom of the pecking order in terms of DO guys but I’ve said before that AEW blew it big time with Dark Order in terms of having them do something
A while back I was heavily invested in the Dark Order being a big deal but once I realised AEW not gonna do anything with them it became harder and harder to care
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 30, 2022 20:06:05 GMT -5
Peak Dark Order has been just as over as FTR if not more and they didnt even get a single win. Yeah - we're talking 2021 Dark Order, Dark Order going into those Elite matches. Crowd has been absolutely white hot for the lot of them at times, and it's been squandered with ill-timed major losses, every time. FinalGwen made the point well: FTR were getting hot, and AEW kept pushing them and it paid off huge. Dark Order have been hot, from the Hangman association, from the Brodie tribute stuff, from the reconciliation in Rochester, and it has never paid off in a push the way FTR's heat has, and they have never gotten the same sustained attention even when they were breaking out. Even John Silver loses every time he's on Dynamite or Rampage. Dark Order was screwed over by Hangman taking time off, but also when they got a chance against the Good Bros, they basically got squashed (Impact apparently didn't want Good Bros losing)
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 30, 2022 20:47:25 GMT -5
Yeah - we're talking 2021 Dark Order, Dark Order going into those Elite matches. Crowd has been absolutely white hot for the lot of them at times, and it's been squandered with ill-timed major losses, every time. FinalGwen made the point well: FTR were getting hot, and AEW kept pushing them and it paid off huge. Dark Order have been hot, from the Hangman association, from the Brodie tribute stuff, from the reconciliation in Rochester, and it has never paid off in a push the way FTR's heat has, and they have never gotten the same sustained attention even when they were breaking out. Even John Silver loses every time he's on Dynamite or Rampage. Dark Order was screwed over by Hangman taking time off, but also when they got a chance against the Good Bros, they basically got squashed (Impact apparently didn't want Good Bros losing) Did Impact also not want to borrow Uno and Grayson for some reason? That would have been interesting.
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Post by clifford on Jul 1, 2022 3:22:43 GMT -5
Peak Dark Order has been just as over as FTR if not more and they didnt even get a single win. Yeah - we're talking 2021 Dark Order, Dark Order going into those Elite matches. Crowd has been absolutely white hot for the lot of them at times, and it's been squandered with ill-timed major losses, every time. FinalGwen made the point well: FTR were getting hot, and AEW kept pushing them and it paid off huge. Dark Order have been hot, from the Hangman association, from the Brodie tribute stuff, from the reconciliation in Rochester, and it has never paid off in a push the way FTR's heat has, and they have never gotten the same sustained attention even when they were breaking out. Even John Silver loses every time he's on Dynamite or Rampage. I really don't think losses has anything to do with it- DO were insanely over whether they won or not. The issue was that since Danielson used them to get at Hangman for their first match they've been given absolutely nothing on tv, save for a couple more team ups with Hangman for Silver & Reynolds, and one week where it looked like they might start feuding with the House of Black, but that was dropped. They didn't have to be on tv every week, but only appearing on Elevation in a never ending match series with the Factory that would've made Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler blush, has made them completely irrelevant. Funny thing is, if the effort was to be put back into them, they absolutely would become one of the most over acts in the company again within like, a month.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 3, 2022 16:52:48 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Jul 3, 2022 17:18:32 GMT -5
Angels has already found work as he was at the Impact tapings last night
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