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Post by Jindrak Mark on Dec 3, 2021 18:13:32 GMT -5
I don't think there's going to be many if any jumps in the near future.
It would be pointless even trying to negotiate with any of the Elite guys. They're literally vice presidents of the company. It would be like a rival wrestling company trying to tempt HHH/Stephanie/Shane. They're not going to go from top stars and helping found/run the company to just being regular talent elsewhere.
The tag teams like Lucha Bros/PNP would be insane to even consider going to WWE. They'll have feuds with the Usos and New Day but beyond that WWE doesn't care about having a full, thriving tag division.
If the women's division doesn't start getting more than one match per Dynamite in the next year or two then I can maybe see some of them (Ford, Hogan, Hayter) looking to make a move.
Vince willingly let Christian/Big Show/Mark Henry go and made it clear he didn't see a future for them in the ring so they're not returning until a Hall of Fame induction which could be years away.
MJF and/or Wardlow are the main ones I can see being in WWE but even that would probably be one or two contract negotiation cycles in the future not this one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2021 18:24:32 GMT -5
I think Brian Cage is pretty much gone. He's the only one I'd put any stock into not being re-signed on the male roster.
I could see the WWE trying to poach the big players if they can get them just to be spiteful, but I think the talent is getting smarter in terms of what they will and won't sign on for, name a no-cut clause which I doubt Vince is ever going to do.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 3, 2021 19:02:56 GMT -5
If the women's division doesn't start getting more than one match per Dynamite in the next year or two then I can maybe see some of them (Ford, Hogan, Hayter) looking to make a move. WWE keeps cutting a lot of the talented women like Taya Valkyrie and Nixon Newell, in addition to Shotzi and Toni Storm not being booked well, so I don't know if the AEW women would want to go to WWE knowing they could be released at any time there.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 3, 2021 20:02:48 GMT -5
I honestly don't think WWE would be interested in anyone from AEW apart from Jericho,Big Show and Mark Henry. Oh is it 2003? That's the ONLY talent you think theyd be interested in? So when they offered Hobbs, Eddie Kingston and Ricky Starks contracts right after their first TV matches, those were anomalies? I massively disagree with the person you were replying to, but in fairness weren't all of those offers before they started cutting everyone up to and including people who main evented like a week earlier? I think Brian Cage is pretty much gone. He's the only one I'd put any stock into not being re-signed on the male roster. I could see the WWE trying to poach the big players if they can get them just to be spiteful, but I think the talent is getting smarter in terms of what they will and won't sign on for, name a no-cut clause which I doubt Vince is ever going to do. It's funny, I think WWE would actually possibly want Cage, but he'd probably have to lose 30lbs of roid muscle before they'd take him. Although EC3 somehow got away with being the size he was, so who knows?
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Post by Dub H on Dec 3, 2021 20:03:38 GMT -5
Oh is it 2003? That's the ONLY talent you think theyd be interested in? So when they offered Hobbs, Eddie Kingston and Ricky Starks contracts right after their first TV matches, those were anomalies? I massively disagree with the person you were replying to, but in fairness weren't all of those offers before they started cutting everyone up to and including people who main evented like a week earlier? I think Brian Cage is pretty much gone. He's the only one I'd put any stock into not being re-signed on the male roster. I could see the WWE trying to poach the big players if they can get them just to be spiteful, but I think the talent is getting smarter in terms of what they will and won't sign on for, name a no-cut clause which I doubt Vince is ever going to do. It's funny, I think WWE would actually possibly want Cage, but he'd probably have to lose 30lbs of roid muscle before they'd take him. Although EC3 somehow got away with being the size he was, so who knows? The Wellness Policy is pretty much a joke.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 3, 2021 20:14:07 GMT -5
I massively disagree with the person you were replying to, but in fairness weren't all of those offers before they started cutting everyone up to and including people who main evented like a week earlier? It's funny, I think WWE would actually possibly want Cage, but he'd probably have to lose 30lbs of roid muscle before they'd take him. Although EC3 somehow got away with being the size he was, so who knows? The Wellness Policy is pretty much a joke. So's the promotion I assumed the wellness promotion only applied to guys they didn't like, and if the booking EC3 got while he was there was what they give to people they like, then...
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Dec 3, 2021 23:21:19 GMT -5
MJF and/or Wardlow are the main ones I can see being in WWE but even that would probably be one or two contract negotiation cycles in the future not this one. On a related note, as it gets closer to the end of MJFs contract I can see him start threatening to leave for more money as part of his heel shtick He already made reference once to knowing people in Connecticut
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 4, 2021 1:09:35 GMT -5
A couple I kind of have the feeling are on the way out are Sonny Kiss and Joey Janela. They haven't had any sort of prominence in ages.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2021 1:12:20 GMT -5
A couple I kind of have the feeling are on the way out are Sonny Kiss and Joey Janela. They haven't had any sort of prominence in ages. Doesn't Janela have a backstage role as something of a talent scout?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 4, 2021 4:27:13 GMT -5
A couple I kind of have the feeling are on the way out are Sonny Kiss and Joey Janela. They haven't had any sort of prominence in ages. Sonny's initial delay was due to splitting time in AEW with schooling. No clue if that is still happening, but it always felt like they saw a long term project with Kiss they werent gonna rush. Janela signed a one year extension taking him into next year. Dude has gotten into the best shape of his career recently, he said he doesnt want to keave and wants to earn his deal and show he is committed
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 4, 2021 4:32:37 GMT -5
If the women's division doesn't start getting more than one match per Dynamite in the next year or two then I can maybe see some of them (Ford, Hogan, Hayter) looking to make a move. WWE keeps cutting a lot of the talented women like Taya Valkyrie and Nixon Newell, in addition to Shotzi and Toni Storm not being booked well, so I don't know if the AEW women would want to go to WWE knowing they could be released at any time there. Yeah, like, some could/should consider it, I wouldn't throw shade at anyone for rolling the dice on it, especially early in their career, but it would probably be considerably less enticing than it was a few years ago, when NXT was really killing it with the women, and the main roster, while still having a mix of good and bad, was leaning a little closer to the "good". That said, I imagine if anyone walks, it's probably only going to be acrimonious in some situations.
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Post by wankah on Dec 4, 2021 7:13:17 GMT -5
A couple I kind of have the feeling are on the way out are Sonny Kiss and Joey Janela. They haven't had any sort of prominence in ages. Doesn't Janela have a backstage role as something of a talent scout? People thought so, but he dismissed the claim himself a little while ago.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 4, 2021 7:17:55 GMT -5
MJF and/or Wardlow are the main ones I can see being in WWE but even that would probably be one or two contract negotiation cycles in the future not this one. On a related note, as it gets closer to the end of MJFs contract I can see him start threatening to leave for more money as part of his heel shtick He already made reference once to knowing people in Connecticut MJF wanting to leave with the title seems likely. Especially if Punk is involved.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 4, 2021 8:27:19 GMT -5
The Wellness Policy is pretty much a joke. So's the promotion I assumed the wellness promotion only applied to guys they didn't like, and if the booking EC3 got while he was there was what they give to people they like, then... The Wellness Policy is on the up and up, although I think it’s only full-time talent subject to it to some extent (like Triple H wouldn’t be part of it when he was working semi-part time). They’ve suspended Reigns so I don’t think there’s any real argument to be made that it’s a real thing.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 4, 2021 9:53:52 GMT -5
So's the promotion I assumed the wellness promotion only applied to guys they didn't like, and if the booking EC3 got while he was there was what they give to people they like, then... The Wellness Policy is on the up and up, although I think it’s only full-time talent subject to it to some extent (like Triple H wouldn’t be part of it when he was working semi-part time). They’ve suspended Reigns so I don’t think there’s any real argument to be made that it’s a real thing. They suspended Reigns because he got caressless with some reacriotional drugs. Many have come and said how incredibly easy to get past the wellness for enchantment. All you need is a doctor note saying you can have a medical use of one dose and the inject youself till you look like Jinder You really gotta want to be busted if to fail it It exists ,but it is still a joke.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 4, 2021 10:37:09 GMT -5
The Wellness Policy is on the up and up, although I think it’s only full-time talent subject to it to some extent (like Triple H wouldn’t be part of it when he was working semi-part time). They’ve suspended Reigns so I don’t think there’s any real argument to be made that it’s a real thing. They suspended Reigns because he got caressless with some reacriotional drugs. Many have come and said how incredibly easy to get past the wellness for enchantment. All you need is a doctor note saying you can have a medical use of one dose and the inject youself till you look like Jinder You really gotta want to be busted if to fail it It exists ,but it is still a joke. They test for presence, not quantity. If you have a prescription for a bottle of 40 painkillers and take 40 a day, you pass wellness as long as you can prove you have paperwork for the first forty and that's a hole large enough to drive a semi truck through.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2021 13:52:22 GMT -5
WWE changed their wellness policy to allow a removal of one strike if you've been clean for X amount of time specifically so they wouldn't have to fire Randy Orton when he got his third strike. It's a joke and always has been.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 4, 2021 16:46:15 GMT -5
What’s the status on Kip? (I feel like I’ve asked that 8 times).
Ok so a quick search shows he had shoulder surgery on May 17, 2021. I wonder if he’ll be kept around.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 4, 2021 21:38:03 GMT -5
WWE changed their wellness policy to allow a removal of one strike if you've been clean for X amount of time specifically so they wouldn't have to fire Randy Orton when he got his third strike. It's a joke and always has been. Is that a joke, though? Doesn’t mean the policy doesn’t have teeth. Does every good athlete drug policy need to have an automatic termination as part of the policy in order to be worth anything? Also worth noting, to get the strike removed there’s also treatment by a professional for potential addiction issues that you have to undergo.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 4, 2021 23:05:20 GMT -5
What’s the status on Kip? (I feel like I’ve asked that 8 times). Ok so a quick search shows he had shoulder surgery on May 17, 2021. I wonder if he’ll be kept around. Im curious if AEW does time added for injury times on contracts. Kip has been out half the year, Butcher was out most of this year and just go hurt again, Darius has been out the entire year. I assume theyd keep them on contract unless they wanted out, I think Kip does backstage stuff for them too.
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