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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Dec 7, 2021 17:16:41 GMT -5
I’m wondering if Jack Evans is closing to retiring. He seems to have a complete lack of confidence lately. Which I sympathize with him. Especially with him saying he’s not good at pitching storylines. But I’m reality, I have no idea what his frame of mind is.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Dec 8, 2021 1:59:27 GMT -5
I’m wondering if Jack Evans is closing to retiring. He seems to have a complete lack of confidence lately. Which I sympathize with him. Especially with him saying he’s not good at pitching storylines. But I’m reality, I have no idea what his frame of mind is. This, uh, seems to be his frame of mind right now:
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 8, 2021 2:03:53 GMT -5
WWE changed their wellness policy to allow a removal of one strike if you've been clean for X amount of time specifically so they wouldn't have to fire Randy Orton when he got his third strike. It's a joke and always has been. That's paradoxically a strike against and a point in favor of the policy, in a way. Yes, it was definitely done for the purpose of protecting Orton, and perhaps others, but it does also confirm the tests take place if they don't just look the other way. It also does feel in the spirit of things to reward sobriety, all things considered. Still, I haven't heard of a drug policy yet that doesn't have serious problems, WWE's included. MMA, boxing, baseball, etc, have had a slew of controversies, along with a strong feeling that many know how to game the system, supported by how often people get caught, well, gaming the system.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 8, 2021 2:17:29 GMT -5
WWE changed their wellness policy to allow a removal of one strike if you've been clean for X amount of time specifically so they wouldn't have to fire Randy Orton when he got his third strike. It's a joke and always has been. That's paradoxically a strike against and a point in favor of the policy, in a way. Yes, it was definitely done for the purpose of protecting Orton, and perhaps others, but it does also confirm the tests take place if they don't just look the other way. It also does feel in the spirit of things to reward sobriety, all things considered. Still, I haven't heard of a drug policy yet that doesn't have serious problems, WWE's included. MMA, boxing, baseball, etc, have had a slew of controversies, along with a strong feeling that many know how to game the system, supported by how often people get caught, well, gaming the system. I definitely think BACK then the policy was more strictly enforced,especially when the issue was still hot on then Nowdays it seems much more lax.I dont even think they had the "part timers" clause. Well,maybe for Triple H,according to MVP
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 8, 2021 2:22:11 GMT -5
That's paradoxically a strike against and a point in favor of the policy, in a way. Yes, it was definitely done for the purpose of protecting Orton, and perhaps others, but it does also confirm the tests take place if they don't just look the other way. It also does feel in the spirit of things to reward sobriety, all things considered. Still, I haven't heard of a drug policy yet that doesn't have serious problems, WWE's included. MMA, boxing, baseball, etc, have had a slew of controversies, along with a strong feeling that many know how to game the system, supported by how often people get caught, well, gaming the system. I definitely think BACK then the policy was more strictly enforced,especially when the issue was still hot on then Nowdays it seems much more lax.I dont even think they had the "part timers" clause. Well,maybe for Triple H,according to MVP I think it's less a clause and more that you have to be a full timer to be subject to it to begin with. Like, I doubt Triple H has been tested for years, whereas referees have been penalized at least once, if I recall. Was it Chioda or someone else who got a wellness strike? In either case, it's definitely got some workarounds.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 8, 2021 5:33:51 GMT -5
I’m wondering if Jack Evans is closing to retiring. He seems to have a complete lack of confidence lately. Which I sympathize with him. Especially with him saying he’s not good at pitching storylines. But I’m reality, I have no idea what his frame of mind is. This, uh, seems to be his frame of mind right now: Man... Jack might need to get the hell out of there if he can
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Post by markymark on Dec 14, 2021 16:34:00 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Dec 14, 2021 16:37:09 GMT -5
I can't say I'm surprised. For all the heel antics, he's probably someone you want up front who can likely play off what you have for promotional material. Fox with all the sports in particular, I can see MJF being a boon there. Now will WWE play ball and let him be him? We'll find out but if the networks are talking about it, it'd be about as close to 100% as possible.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 14, 2021 16:40:29 GMT -5
Not a shock, but I don't see MJF going anywhere though. He seems like way too imoortant a piece for AEW and overall you can't trust WWE to do right by your gimmick imo I could see Khan giving him a big extension before it even gets close
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Post by Dub H on Dec 14, 2021 18:37:14 GMT -5
The little we know of MJF from behind the scenes I doubt he would leave for WWE.
I would say the most important thing for MJF is for him to protect the MJF brand, even if he left AEW,he likely could make all the money a non-main eventer in WWE makes and more
But I also wouldnt be surprised if he gets a nice fat raise
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 14, 2021 18:43:06 GMT -5
I can't see MJF going to WWE unless they can guarantee that he'll be allowed to do his own thing and won't be wasted. AEW can do that and pay him plenty, WWE could dump a truckload of cash at his door but I can't imagine he'd be happy with how sanitised his character would have to be.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 14, 2021 18:48:19 GMT -5
I can't see MJF going to WWE unless they can guarantee that he'll be allowed to do his own thing and won't be wasted. AEW can do that and pay him plenty, WWE could dump a truckload of cash at his door but I can't imagine he'd be happy with how sanitised his character would have to be. Not to mention that AEW deeming MJF, Darby, Sammy, and Jungle Boy the "four pillars" is pretty much a way of guaranteeing that these guys are going to have long-term sustained pushes for years and years, which means that they have no motive at this point to think about risking it elsewhere.
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 14, 2021 19:28:15 GMT -5
I can't see MJF going to WWE unless they can guarantee that he'll be allowed to do his own thing and won't be wasted. AEW can do that and pay him plenty, WWE could dump a truckload of cash at his door but I can't imagine he'd be happy with how sanitised his character would have to be. Not to mention that AEW deeming MJF, Darby, Sammy, and Jungle Boy the "four pillars" is pretty much a way of guaranteeing that these guys are going to have long-term sustained pushes for years and years, which means that they have no motive at this point to think about risking it elsewhere. Hook is the 5th Pillar.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2021 21:02:41 GMT -5
MJF going to WWE would be the biggest career mistake of his life.
There's no way they would allow him to say the stuff AEW does. That's his whole gimmick. That he says Savage stuff that pushes the envelope.
WWE's sponsors would probably be on their back if he called somebody's mother a junkie.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2021 21:32:45 GMT -5
MJF going to WWE would be the biggest career mistake of his life. There's no way they would allow him to say the stuff AEW does. That's his whole gimmick. That he says Savage stuff that pushes the envelope. WWE's sponsors would probably be on their back if he called somebody's mother a junkie. Yeah, honestly, he has enough ties to WWE through his trainers to know what really goes down there. I also just have a hard time believing they'd just hire him and not make him go through NXT to "learn" how to work WWE style in terms of production. I just don't see it happening.
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Post by r. on Dec 14, 2021 21:42:04 GMT -5
I will pray to every god/s past present and future MJF tells WWE to shove their offer right up their ass.
That place will completely and utterly neuter him but not before killing his passion for the bussiness before eventually cutting him.
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Post by eJm on Dec 14, 2021 21:42:30 GMT -5
MJF going to WWE would be the biggest career mistake of his life. There's no way they would allow him to say the stuff AEW does. That's his whole gimmick. That he says Savage stuff that pushes the envelope. WWE's sponsors would probably be on their back if he called somebody's mother a junkie. Yeah, honestly, he has enough ties to WWE through his trainers to know what really goes down there. I also just have a hard time believing they'd just hire him and not make him go through NXT to "learn" how to work WWE style in terms of production. I just don't see it happening. I’d say if they really wanted him, they’d have it so he can bypass all of that like AJ Styles did (albeit with Styles, it was less a contract thing then a “HHH somehow convinced Vince to do it” thing but still) since he’s a TV ready guy but then it’s only happened with Styles in recent times so you could still be right.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 14, 2021 21:45:22 GMT -5
Yeah, honestly, he has enough ties to WWE through his trainers to know what really goes down there. I also just have a hard time believing they'd just hire him and not make him go through NXT to "learn" how to work WWE style in terms of production. I just don't see it happening. I’d say if they really wanted him, they’d have it so he can bypass all of that like AJ Styles did (albeit with Styles, it was less a contract thing then a “HHH somehow convinced Vince to do it” thing but still) since he’s a TV ready guy but then it’s only happened with Styles in recent times so you could still be right. I feel like they'd do it to make a statement more than anything. I think Styles is a generational talent that had like a decade and a half of working TVs, PPVs, etc. under his belt and that's why he was able to make the case. MJF's just not that experienced yet. Maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like MJF's an AEW-lifer.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 14, 2021 21:47:34 GMT -5
Not to mention that AEW deeming MJF, Darby, Sammy, and Jungle Boy the "four pillars" is pretty much a way of guaranteeing that these guys are going to have long-term sustained pushes for years and years, which means that they have no motive at this point to think about risking it elsewhere. Hook is the 5th Pillar. There is basically a new generation of "pillars" forming ,as the former Pillars are basicallay becoming the present Hook,Garcia, Damien are definitely being groomed for future big plans
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Post by markymark on Dec 15, 2021 12:41:31 GMT -5
After the KO news, its not shocking that WWE will offer him quite the huge paycheck...
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